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NATO: Afghan bombing kills 5 troops, 8 contractors (U.S.Media go ga ga over lawless protesters)
AP ^ | October 29, 2011 | Deb Riechmann , Tarek El-Tablawy,

Posted on 10/29/2011 11:57:20 AM PDT by yoe

KABUL, Afghanistan (AP) -- NATO says the 13 people killed when a suicide bomber rammed a military convoy in Kabul included five coalition troops and eight civilian contractors.

NATO initially reported that all 13 killed were service members. But after further identification, it confirmed that eight were civilians working for the coalition.

A U.S. official says all were Americans, but Canadian defense spokesperson Lt. Col. Christian Lemay told The Associated Press that a Canadian soldier was among the troopers killed. Canadian military officials have not yet released the soldier's identity or further details.

The Taliban suicide bomber hit an armored NATO bus Saturday in the deadliest attack on coalition forces in Kabul since the war began.

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Extreme radicals target America while our Troops fight in Afghanistan, Obama's good war......CPUSA, CAIR, Nazi Party USA, SEIU, MoveOn, Michael Moore, George Soros, Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid and other subversive anti-Americans and organizations are hard at work demonizing America. Are there any adults in Washington or are they all limp politically correct idiots?
1 posted on 10/29/2011 11:57:22 AM PDT by yoe
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To: yoe
Obama has announced a complete surrender to AQ (and Iran) in Iraq and the Taliban will now go on a full court press to kill an many US troops as possible to get Obama and the public to throw in the towel in Afghanistan too, IMO.

Our enemy does a great job manipulating public opinion.

2 posted on 10/29/2011 12:05:23 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: elpadre
The purpose of an army is to destroy things and kill the enemy. We shouldn't have our men and women riding around the Afghan countryside waiting to be blown up by suicide bombers hell bent on jihad.

Destroy the enemy or get out. Our soldiers are not security guards.

3 posted on 10/29/2011 12:16:15 PM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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To: Deo volente
"Destroy the enemy or get out. Our soldiers are not security guards." I've been saying that since 2003. It took until 2007 for Bush to figure it out (by coming up with this "Surge" strategy, when all along it should have been done right from the get-go), but by taking so long to figure it out, it cost us the Congress in 2006 and the 2008 election. Still, we drag this out. I say bring them the hell home now.
4 posted on 10/29/2011 12:24:13 PM PDT by LibFreeUSA (Pick Your Poison)
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To: LibFreeUSA
Heh, I said the same thing on the other thread in Breaking News and got called a lot of mean names, even though an extremely close friend got shipped back to Afghanistan.

V/E Day only occurred due to Hirohito breaking a tie and surrendering.

Those were fanatics who believed the Emperor was God.

These fanatics believe that by killing the infidels they get 72 virgins. By being police men in Afghanistan, I don't see that we will be changing minds.

Didn't work out for the early missionaries when the US West was settled. They were chopped up and their remains were thrown around in celebration. It took wiping out their villages before the killing of missionaries stopped.

6 posted on 10/29/2011 12:29:40 PM PDT by Dengar01 (Dengar01 - "Heartless" since 1983!!!)
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To: Deo volente
In my combat days there were no ROE’s.And in my opinion they have no place in a war. This is war.

Remove all ROE, go on the offensive and root the Taliban and any AQ around out of their holes with every means available. No one respects weakness, everyone respects strength. This enemy will stand down when faced with an insurmountable force. And that is what they need to see.

7 posted on 10/29/2011 12:35:24 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-Qaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Deo volente
The purpose of an army is to destroy things and kill the enemy. We shouldn't have our men and women riding around the Afghan countryside waiting to be blown up by suicide bombers hell bent on jihad.

Well said.

At the time I supported what we were doing, it was an honorable thing to do. But you can't take a country of cavemen and drag them (many kicking and screaming) into the 21st century.

In retrospect, all parties may have been better served sending a few nukes to well selected sites, speaking the language of strength, fear, and vengeance which the muslim understands.

8 posted on 10/29/2011 12:48:22 PM PDT by South Hawthorne (In Memory of my dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: yoe
No more anti-war protests, no nightly memorials of slain soldiers on the news.

Hypocrites, every one of them.

9 posted on 10/29/2011 12:52:11 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: yoe

0pres released any statement yet?


10 posted on 10/29/2011 12:56:07 PM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: Deo volente
Destroy the enemy or get out. Our soldiers are not security guards.

Hear here!

11 posted on 10/29/2011 1:10:10 PM PDT by Michael Barnes (Obamaa+ Downgrade)
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12 posted on 10/29/2011 1:13:34 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

It’s all about China, Iran, and Africa. Thanks yoe.


13 posted on 10/29/2011 2:00:37 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Owl_Eagle
Yes they are in plain site.The enemy should not know their where about all the time. More special ops and more killing of lots of taliban.. This is so sad.
14 posted on 10/29/2011 2:29:11 PM PDT by GregB (I will follow Sarah where ever she goes!)
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To: yoe

You left out two more supporters of OWS.

David Duke

And Ahmindinijad

Birds of a feather.


15 posted on 10/29/2011 2:40:35 PM PDT by left that other site (Psalm 122:6)
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To: Dengar01

People have no conception of war. You either fight to ‘WIN’ or you don’t. It’s that simple. We are not fighting to WIN, we are fighting to save the local’s assess - and I have a major problem with that. Many people have been brainwashed by Bush and Co. that we are fighting “terrorism”, well that’s a bunch of B.S. to sell a bill of goods. If that’s the case, then WHY THE HELL aren’t we fighting in Iran? in Cuba? (90 miles away). Those bastards have been promoting and giving arms to terrorists for the past 30 years. Bring our best and finest home. Put them on the southern border to actually do some good.


16 posted on 10/29/2011 7:15:47 PM PDT by LibFreeUSA (Pick Your Poison)
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To: LibFreeUSA; Future Snake Eater
People have no conception of war. You either fight to ‘WIN’ or you don’t. It’s that simple. We are not fighting to WIN, we are fighting to save the local’s assess - and I have a major problem with that. Many people have been brainwashed by Bush and Co. that we are fighting “terrorism”, well that’s a bunch of B.S. to sell a bill of goods. If that’s the case, then WHY THE HELL aren’t we fighting in Iran? in Cuba? (90 miles away). Those bastards have been promoting and giving arms to terrorists for the past 30 years. Bring our best and finest home. Put them on the southern border to actually do some good.

LOL!!! I was basically called anti-US military by a so called FReeper who I've never seen in my life for saying the same thing my quote was, "you question my patriotism, I will eviscerate yours." So far silence.

According to this tool, if you are not a member of the military you have no say, even though my grandfather fought in the Royal Airforce in the Battle of Britain, my father fought in Vietnam and I have USAA Insurance which I think is only for folks related to the military.

I've lost friends to the WOT, have current friends who are "brothers" in Afghanistan, (but according to this FReeper who thinks he's a Medal of Honor winner, says you must be in the military to feel for those who died on the battlefield)

For this FReeper I'd like to see him tossed into the middle of Wazirastan, tell me how wonderful Barry is and how awesome Pakistan and Hamid Karzi are. I would pray for that. Because I know how generous the Taliban are towards Americans.

This bastard told me I was a traitor to the USA because I did not support Barack Obama as Commander in Chief, well folks I met Barry in 2005 when he was my Senator his closest adviser to combat was Bill Ayers when he bombed the Pentagon. So FReepers please, tell Future Snake Eater who claims to be Mr. Medal of Honor that Barry is not a good CIC. Wait sorry, Future Snake Eater will tell you, you hate the military, are anti-American, and are evil.

Future Snake Eater, believes you MUST SERVE IN THE MILITARY UNDER BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA to have an opinion and if that opinion is NEGATIVE you are ANTI-AMERICAN

So to good ole FReeper Medal of Honor, Purple Heart, Freedom Medal winner Future Snake Eater please tell those of us who aren't in the military who have lost family and friends to this war that we are anti-American.

Future Snake Eater, tell us about Major Hassan, he was in the military and wait, according to your logic he is a hero!!!

Fellow FReepers, there are folks who were in Vietnam who joined the anti-war movement, for simpletons just watch "Forrest Gump". For current FReepers do a search of Future Snake Eater's posts. He is a FReeper who like the snake in Eden wants to sow doubt in the minds of all. If anyone on God's green earth was due for a zot it would be this POS!!! If I could bribe a ZOT I would, but the owner of this website has much more moral scruples than Future Snake Eater who supports his CIC, Comrade Barack Obama.

But I bet Future Snake Eater never met Comrade Obama in 2005 like I did, when I warned this website he'd be President if we didn't act.

So Future Snake Eater, show your medal of honor, hell even a purple heart and maybe I'll give you an ounce of respect, but I have family and friends who died for this country and are true heroes, you, you claim glory based on sitting on a base twiddling your thumbs. What a hero you truly are....

17 posted on 10/29/2011 8:18:58 PM PDT by Dengar01 (Dengar01 - "Heartless" since 1983!!!)
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To: Owl_Eagle

Not well enough. Too simplistic. The purpose is to defeat the enemy. Killing and destroying are but two ways.


18 posted on 10/29/2011 8:54:23 PM PDT by Henry Hnyellar
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To: skeeter

No more anti-war protests, no nightly memorials of slain soldiers on the news.

Hypocrites, every one of them


NAIL ON HEAD

The left are hypocrites, not one anti war demo for N Africa and it was illegal as he never got the votes to my knowledge.

Troops in Africa now and nothing.

There is not such thing as anti war, it is anti republican war, we only have to look at Kosovo, Libya, basically any where in Africa etc to see how the left cheers wars on .

I HATE OUR BIASED MEDIA


19 posted on 10/29/2011 9:02:26 PM PDT by manc ( Marriage=1man+1 woman http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=hxlcVAEj0sM&vq=large)
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To: elpadre

This AP story is extremely biased against America. See how many “negative” and “hype” words the AP writers use to describe the war, public opinion, the Taliban “resilient” (one bomber?), etc.

This is the kind of leftist shit that AP has been putting out for years from both Iraq and Afghanistan.

A pure news story should not have hyped adjectives, non-related issued (i.e. public opinion), speculation (resilient), etc.

An old journalism trick is to scratch out all this types of words and then see if you find a “straight news” story or now. If the straight news story was there, then why were all these negative, extraneous words put in there and allowed to remain there by a copy editor?

Does the phrase “anti-American bias” ring any bells?

I saw this leftist shit while in Vietnam (from a handful of reporters for the New York Times, CBS, etc), not by most of the honest ones. It is time for this to stop.


20 posted on 10/29/2011 9:56:21 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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21 posted on 10/29/2011 10:01:55 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Dengar01

I’m sure you can point out exactly where I said that.

I can tell I’m talking to a complete idiot. You can’t follow basic logic. You can’t follow the flow of a conversation. You invent words and meanings that aren’t there. You spend 250 words when 25 will do. You seem to have a massive inferiority complex, particularly when it comes to the military. Not once have you acknowledged the reason for my original post that you responded to. You seem to think “debate” means “who can scream the loudest.”

And now you’re sending me stalker FReepmail. I’ve run into some clowns on here before, but you take the cake.


22 posted on 10/30/2011 4:15:15 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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To: Future Snake Eater

Ooooh. I’m stealing that rant. Beautiful thing. Really nice.

When I get going people accuse me of being on drugs, being a pinko, stupid, having abject ignorance yad-yada. But it’s water off a duck.

I got a lot of anger in me.

Just a suggestion? Remove some of the F-bombs? And repost. A rant like this needs to be SEEN.


24 posted on 10/30/2011 4:03:30 PM PDT by bigheadfred (wogga wogga)
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To: bigheadfred

Yeah, I was considering editing it and posting. I’m certainly never going to delete it from my FReepmail. It’s only my second or so Stalker Message.


25 posted on 10/30/2011 5:33:51 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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To: Dengar01

Wow. You really are riled up, and I don’t blame you. You, me, and many others are starting to raise legitimate questions on the conduct of this “war”. It is a “war” because it has been, and continues to be, and ‘endless’ operation and not a specific and decisive combat mission with a “get in and get out” purpose. Heck WWII was not even fought as an “endless” operation in that it had a specific and clear objective: the obliteration of the Nazi war machine, and complete and unconditional surrender of the Nazi regime - but with a method of “total war” where we purposefully bombed civilian populations (Dresden, Hamburg, Hiroshima, Nagasaki) to achieve those ends, due in major part to the relentlessness of the enemy to refuse to surrender unconditionally.


26 posted on 10/31/2011 7:17:58 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA (Pick Your Poison)
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