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Steven Greenhut: Rural rebellion brewing
Orange County Register ^ | Oct 28, 2011 | Steven Greenhut

Posted on 10/29/2011 12:39:29 PM PDT by bkopto

Sacramento is Government Central, a land of overly pensioned bureaucrats and restaurant discounts for state workers. But way up in the North State, one finds a small but hard-edged rural populace that views state and federal officials as the main obstacles to their quality of life.

These rural folks, living in the shadow of the majestic Mount Shasta, believe that they are being driven away so that their communities can essentially go back to the wild, to conform to a modern environmentalist ethos that puts wildlands above humanity.

As the locals told it during the Defend Rural America conference Oct. 22 at the Siskiyou Golden Fairgrounds, environmental officials are treading on their liberties, traipsing unannounced on their properties, confronting ranchers with guns drawn to enforce arcane regulatory rules and destroying their livelihoods in the process.

The evening's main event: a panel featuring eight county sheriffs (seven from California, one from Oregon) who billed themselves as "Constitution sheriffs."

They vowed to stand up for the residents of their communities against what they say is an unconstitutional onslaught from regulators in Sacramento and Washington, D.C. In particular, they took issue with the federal government's misnamed Travel Management Plan, which actually is designed to shut down public travel in the forests.

(Excerpt) Read more at ocregister.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: agenda21; california; californication; defaultnow; gohome; sacramento; starvethebeast
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1 posted on 10/29/2011 12:39:29 PM PDT by bkopto
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To: TEXOKIE

FYI


2 posted on 10/29/2011 12:44:15 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert ( Honkies for Herman 2012)
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To: bkopto
Looks like everyone has a beef...

People Are Angrier Than Ever And Record Government Transfer Payments Are Not Pacifying Them

Clinging To Their Guns: Firearm Ownership Soars To Multi-Decade Highs

3 posted on 10/29/2011 12:45:01 PM PDT by blam
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To: bkopto

The idea of a rural rebellion or any kind of rebellion in California sounds great. The fact of the matter is that San Francisco and Hollywood liberals working with the Taker class will continue to crush liberty for everyone else in the Peoples Republic of California.


4 posted on 10/29/2011 12:45:41 PM PDT by Sam Clements
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To: bkopto

northern california remembers how to yeehaw


5 posted on 10/29/2011 12:47:59 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ya don't tug on Supermans cape/ya don't spit into the wind...and ya don't speak well of Mitt to Jim!)
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To: bkopto
When we give California back to Mexico (if they'll take it) or to China (if they won't) or to North Korea (if China's too smart for us) or to Zimbabwe (if North Korea's too smart)--we're going to keep the North State.

Have no fear.

6 posted on 10/29/2011 12:48:19 PM PDT by Savage Beast (History is not just cruel. It is witty. -Charles Krauthammer)
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To: Sam Clements

a civil war, followed by California becoming North California and South California.


7 posted on 10/29/2011 12:48:40 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ya don't tug on Supermans cape/ya don't spit into the wind...and ya don't speak well of Mitt to Jim!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

As long as they don’t bring their idears to Alaska, they can do whatever they want.


8 posted on 10/29/2011 12:52:29 PM PDT by Eska
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To: bkopto
Sounds familiar.


9 posted on 10/29/2011 12:52:41 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr (It will take blood. Seriously.)
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To: bkopto

This is going on all over California. There was a very long, detailed article posted here a while ago about very similar issues out in the desert area. Poor people being told their little homes aren’t “up to code”, folks with some eccentric landscaping concepts being harassed. And these are people who have moved far away from everyone else, but still the libs seek them out to bust their chops.


10 posted on 10/29/2011 12:55:13 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: bkopto

My rural Colorado county is surrounded by national forest. We folks here live cheek to jowl next to federal property. But a Sagebrush Rebellion is always a good thing. Distant bureaucrats know next to nothing about local conditions and needs.

As for medical marijuana in CA, its legal regardless of what the DEA thinks. Persecuting sick people isn’t the same league as going after major drug cartel criminals. The DEA needs to get its priorities in order.


11 posted on 10/29/2011 12:56:11 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
North, Central and South would work better to divide us up. Everything north of Sacramento can be one state, everything south of Bakersfield can be a second, and everything in between can be a third. SoCal, NorCal and CentCal would group like items pretty well, assuming we were all our own states.

There's really no hope for us trapped behind the lines here anyway, but at least we'd be free from the cash-hungry oppression asylum of Sacramento. ;-)

12 posted on 10/29/2011 12:57:30 PM PDT by Steel Wolf ("Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master." - Gaius Sallustius Crispus)
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To: bkopto; All

We have sheriff Mack speaking to us yesterday and today. He has written a book on constitutional sheriffs based on the Supreme Court decision in the case that he was involved with. He won, with NRA help, and the Supreme Court ruled that if State governments, local governments or sheriffs do not take federal money, there is little the federal government can do to them.


13 posted on 10/29/2011 12:59:02 PM PDT by marktwain (In an age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: bkopto

Worth reading for those who think everyone in California is a militant SEIU member, flaky liberal or welfare queen.


14 posted on 10/29/2011 12:59:13 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Jagdgewehr
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15 posted on 10/29/2011 12:59:51 PM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I like the idea of splitting up California as well. However, any region which includes San Francisco or Los Angeles will be destroyed forever by the liberals and the Taker class. Even Orange County, where I live, can not be relied upon because so many of our young people have been completely brainwashed by their professors. Within the next ten years Orange County will go democRAT.


16 posted on 10/29/2011 1:00:02 PM PDT by Sam Clements
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To: bkopto

Thank you, Sheriff Mack, for going around the country & explaining what it means to be a real sheriff in this country. If any here don’t know his story, you might want to check out his webpage:

http://www.sheriffmack.com/

Be sure to visit the ‘No Sheriff Left Behind’ link.


17 posted on 10/29/2011 1:00:46 PM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: skeeter

Free Republic comes to us from California.

I’m a rural Michigander, I know what it feels like to be a Californian. Fortunately we managed a hard right turn in our last election.


18 posted on 10/29/2011 1:02:02 PM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: Sam Clements

California wil get really interesting when the Welfare checks finally stop coming.


19 posted on 10/29/2011 1:05:48 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Civilization is unnatural. It is a whim of circumstance. Barbarism must always ultimately triumph.)
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To: Sam Clements

Does seem scandalous how those cities, sitting on the coast like zits on the skin, can dominate the whole of California. Might as well try to limit the damage. North, Middle, and South California could all become separate states, and South California would eventually give itself back to Mexico.


20 posted on 10/29/2011 1:05:57 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ya don't tug on Supermans cape/ya don't spit into the wind...and ya don't speak well of Mitt to Jim!)
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To: cripplecreek

There are certainly enough people in California who do not care at all for the Californication going on there. Jim Rob is only one of many millions. If I were thinking strategically, I’d put the servers somewhere like Mississippi, where civil commotion against conservatism would be much more unlikely. But then the Robs would have to follow, because they manage the system.


21 posted on 10/29/2011 1:08:31 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ya don't tug on Supermans cape/ya don't spit into the wind...and ya don't speak well of Mitt to Jim!)
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23 posted on 10/29/2011 1:21:46 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; Rurudyne; steelyourfaith; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; xcamel; Swordmaker; ...

Thanks bkopto.


24 posted on 10/29/2011 1:27:11 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: marktwain

The township where my land sits has only 700 people in it, and the locals are getting sick of big government interfering, to the point of rewriting some of the local codes just to keep the feds from taking over certain aspects. I might have to get a copy of that to give to the town board.


25 posted on 10/29/2011 1:34:10 PM PDT by Ellendra ("It's astounding how often people mistake their own stupidity for a lack of fairness." --Thunt)
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To: bkopto

Showing up at my place with a drawn weapon is a good way to get yourself dead.


26 posted on 10/29/2011 1:34:23 PM PDT by Noumenon (The only 'NO' a liberal understands is the one that arrives at muzzle velocity.)
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To: Twotone

Thanks for the link!


27 posted on 10/29/2011 1:36:39 PM PDT by marktwain (In an age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Thanks....I want to move North...


28 posted on 10/29/2011 1:39:01 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: bkopto

I would imagine these Americans are extremely Self-Reliant...a process citified welfare folks like some in California and thousands we saw during Katrina don’t cotton to. I feel those Constitutional Sheriffs will stand their ground....now this is something truly worth standing for!


29 posted on 10/29/2011 1:39:12 PM PDT by yoe
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To: goldstategop
"My rural Colorado county is surrounded by national forest. We folks here live cheek to jowl next to federal property. But a Sagebrush Rebellion is always a good thing. Distant bureaucrats know next to nothing about local conditions and needs."

I'm enjoying the default process with shrinking government ahead due to shrinking government-derived incomes. No county land use regulations against American property rights. No more "open space." No more Agenda 21. No more "master plan." No more moronic comments complaining about "overgrazing." No more trouble from local commies. No clucking from NIMBY hags or false rumors for their effeminate "partners." No more trouble from local or federal commies.


30 posted on 10/29/2011 2:07:55 PM PDT by familyop ("Dry land is not just our destination, it is our destiny!" --Deacon character, "Waterworld")
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To: DLfromthedesert

Thanks!! Just saw it myself! I’ll put out a ping shortly!


32 posted on 10/29/2011 2:15:27 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (The Tea Party outnumbers the Flea Party!)
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To: bkopto; Mr. Silverback; cripplecreek; NoLibZone; Lucky9teen; Pete; bicyclerepair; apillar; ...

Pinging the Agenda 21 list! If you want on or off the list, please freemail me.

It is a relatively low volume ping list. The thread on which we are keeping all articles we have been examining can be found here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2738418/posts


33 posted on 10/29/2011 2:19:44 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (The Tea Party outnumbers the Flea Party!)
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To: Steel Wolf

NorCal and So Oregon had a plan to start their own State, Jefferson State

http://jeffersonstate.com/


34 posted on 10/29/2011 2:28:32 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: bkopto

From the article:

“In particular, they [the “Constitutional Sheriffs] took issue with the federal government’s misnamed Travel Management Plan, which actually is designed to shut down public travel in the forests.”

Hmmmmmmm and guess what goes on in the public forests, boys and girls???

THAT’S RIGHT!!! Cartels are growing some nice drugs to sell to you on the playground!


35 posted on 10/29/2011 2:31:05 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (The Tea Party outnumbers the Flea Party!)
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To: bert

Deaths of thousands of Americans to achieve your goals? Bill Ayers is that you?


37 posted on 10/29/2011 2:36:30 PM PDT by mockingbyrd
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To: jocon307

It is not actually against the law to be poor but it does seem to be against the law to LIVE like a very poor person now. If you live in a shack I suppose they expect you to move out and live...where...under a bridge??? On the other hand if you are in the “occupy” group you can occupy someone else’s property.


38 posted on 10/29/2011 2:46:01 PM PDT by RipSawyer
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To: familyop

They’ll still find a way to oppress you as long as you have something left to steal. The only way that true freedom can exist over time is in a very thinly populated area and maybe not even there with the ease of travel that we have now. The bastards would fly in a helicopter to steal your last dime.


39 posted on 10/29/2011 2:53:55 PM PDT by RipSawyer
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To: bkopto; All

Does anyone have the Agenda 21 map of the US that shows the connected wildlife corridors - with the isolated ‘sustainable cities (no need for cars) that they plan? Isolated communities to herb us into - not connected to other communities and requiring a permit to leave on to travel to the other -

These minds are really out there, folks. They really believe they are so far above us in intelligence that they have to right to herd us, control us, and they even have their numbers of how many of us need to be eliminated ‘to save the world - for them to better rule, of course.

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message878048/pg4


40 posted on 10/29/2011 3:04:28 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (ALWAYS WATCH THE OTHER HAND)
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To: Savage Beast

I love Nor Cal!! If I could find a job there,I would join the rebellion. You think we could get Hermains electric fence? Mexico can have the dessert south. It’s just not worth saving.


41 posted on 10/29/2011 3:06:30 PM PDT by momincombatboots (Look out Left Coast, we are coming and we have Bibles and Guns! LOL)
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To: bkopto

Good for them.


42 posted on 10/29/2011 3:10:45 PM PDT by popdonnelly (Socialism isn't going to work this time, either.)
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To: bkopto; All

Sheriffs are the ultimate law in your county. They can tell anyone, including the FEDS, to take a hike.

Sherill Mack, retired, Arizona, fought the feds all the way to the SCOTUS - and WON. He is helping to educate people and sheriffs across the county. You can get his booklet on his site - to HAND DELIVER to you sheriff, so they can never say they don’t know. It’s their DUTY to protect YOU from the feds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLJgPuNAh60


43 posted on 10/29/2011 3:14:28 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (ALWAYS WATCH THE OTHER HAND)
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44 posted on 10/29/2011 3:22:30 PM PDT by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: Sam Clements
The idea of a rural rebellion or any kind of rebellion in California sounds great

The reality is: Rebellion in America is damned near impossible.

They'll use the IRS, the EPA, the BATF and, if really serious, the National Guard. You cannot beat them. They are twenty million strong.

This isn't 1900. It will never be 1900 again. We blew it.

45 posted on 10/29/2011 3:22:55 PM PDT by Glenn (iamtheresistance.org)
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To: mockingbyrd

or Bill Gates?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3WXcRfsrTQ&feature=related


46 posted on 10/29/2011 3:28:01 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (ALWAYS WATCH THE OTHER HAND)
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To: jocon307

“And these are people who have moved far away from everyone else, but still the libs seek them out to bust their chops.”

Perhaps conservatives should turn the tables on the Hollywood leftists. Demand the beach at Maibu be returned to its natural state. The multimillion dollar houses should be bulldozed and hauled away, allowing nature to reclaim the waterside. The same goes for the Hollywood hills, Holmby Hills, Beverly Hills, and Bel Air, Pacific Palisades. We should return those areas to their natural state. While we are at it go after La Jolla, the Napa wine country and the wealthy neighborhoods of San Francisco.


47 posted on 10/29/2011 3:31:33 PM PDT by Soul of the South (When times are tough the tough get going.)
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To: RipSawyer

“On the other hand if you are in the “occupy” group you can occupy someone else’s property.”

Those people are just play acting. In fact, this reminds me of Marie Antoinette and how she and her court ladies would play at being milkmaids.

And I love how when actual homeless people show up the occupiers give them the gate-stat!

Quite a group.


48 posted on 10/29/2011 3:35:51 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: maine-iac7

49 posted on 10/29/2011 3:37:28 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: bkopto
These rural folks, living in the shadow of the majestic Mount Shasta, believe that they are being driven away so that their communities can essentially go back to the wild, to conform to a modern environmentalist ethos that puts wildlands above humanity.

Assuming that's what they really want. Or, do they want them thar rural folks out so they have those majestic views for their mansions?

Remember, one of the pillars of the religion of liberalism is hypocracy, along with deceit, and abortion, and....

50 posted on 10/29/2011 3:49:19 PM PDT by FlyVet
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