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Rocket Attacks Continue Overnight; IDF Retaliates
Arutz Sheva ^ | 30/10/11 | Elad Benari

Posted on 10/29/2011 10:15:33 PM PDT by Eleutheria5

The rocket attacks from Gaza continued overnight Saturday, giving local residents a restless night.

Two rockets were fired towards Be’er Sheva just after 3:00 a.m. (Israel time). The rockets exploded in open areas and there were no reports of physical injuries or damage.

At about 5:00 a.m. Israel time, a Grad missile exploded north of the city of Ashkelon. There were no physical injuries or damage.

Meanwhile, IAF aircraft targeted six terror activity sites in Gaza overnight. Three rocket launching sites and one terror tunnel were targeted in northern Gaza, and two terror activity sites were targeted in southern Gaza.

According to the IDF Spokesperson, secondary explosions were observed in certain sites. Hits were confirmed.

The attacks came in response to the barrage of rockets that were fired at Israel throughout the day on Saturday.

Ten Grad missiles and over 20 Kassam rockets and mortars hit Israel over the course of the day, the IDF said.

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TOPICS: Extended News; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: ashkelon; dncintifada; ghaza; iafretalliates; libyanrockets; obamaintifada; obamasikhwanrockets; rockets
We should invade ASAP. It's only a matter of time before Lebanon gets into the act, and Egypt and/or Syria stabilize enough to lend a hand, and then there's Iran. Take down Ghaza while it's still the only shark in the pool. Occupy it quickly and cleanly, and wait for the next foe.
1 posted on 10/29/2011 10:15:35 PM PDT by Eleutheria5
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To: Eleutheria5

I’m thinking more like “the bombing begins in 24 hours - you have 23 hours and 59 minutes to pack up and get 50+ miles away from Israel on all sides”.


2 posted on 10/29/2011 10:19:54 PM PDT by TheZMan (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2794639/posts)
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To: Eleutheria5
Israel is doing a nice job stepping on the cockroaches who are launching rockets, but they need to target the source of the rocket supply.
3 posted on 10/29/2011 10:20:25 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

Heck.. Israel should be targeting us, we are the ones turning the Middle East over to Iran and it’s cronies. Lets see, Iraq, Egypt, Tunisia (soon), Libya and can Syria be far behind all headed for sharia law and the Iranian sphere of influence. Those flips all courtesy of the USA. Christians headed out or dead in most of these countries. We are promoting the worst kind of intolerance for Christians in the middle east. If there is a dumber bunch of pols anywhere than the ones leading this country, I don’t know where to look.


4 posted on 10/29/2011 10:39:23 PM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: Lancey Howard

“Israel is doing a nice job stepping on the cockroaches who are launching rockets, but they need to target the source of the rocket supply.”

Do you really think those ‘rockets’ are difficult to build? Come on dude, look at who the demographic of the people are building them...


5 posted on 10/29/2011 10:46:25 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: Eleutheria5
"We should invade ASAP."

Israel has been at war with its neighbors since the beginning.

They seem to be OK with a low-grade war rather than formally declaring war and marching on Lebanon, Syria, Jordan and Egypt.

If they don't want to do that, then why should we?

6 posted on 10/29/2011 11:13:08 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Eleutheria5

“We” should invade?

You do realize that our present government is likely to be on the OTHER side.


7 posted on 10/29/2011 11:15:16 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Eleutheria5
Palestine: We will kill you all.
Palestine: If you retaliate we'll kill you.

Obama: Israel must negotiate for peace.

8 posted on 10/29/2011 11:16:29 PM PDT by MaxMax
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To: Carthego delenda est
Do you really think those ‘rockets’ are difficult to build? Come on dude, look at who the demographic of the people are building them...?

What do you mean by demographic of people building the rockets?

9 posted on 10/29/2011 11:39:18 PM PDT by hamboy
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To: Eleutheria5
According to the IDF Spokesperson, secondary explosions were observed in certain sites. Hits were confirmed.

Good secondaries are the pilot's reward for flying the mission... Nothing else says "on target" in quite the same way. Bravo, I raise my glass to you. (a little Bourbon)

10 posted on 10/29/2011 11:44:21 PM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obama now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: hamboy

Quite simply, the morons seeking to destroy Israel.


11 posted on 10/29/2011 11:58:53 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: GeronL

Bibi has gone over to the Palestinians? I’m over here, kimosave.


12 posted on 10/30/2011 12:20:53 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Wrong “we,” kimosave. I occupy land and obstruct piece right here in Kiryat Arba.


13 posted on 10/30/2011 12:23:08 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5

Oh Lord, my son is working in Be’er Sheva now he comes home in 2 weeks.


14 posted on 10/30/2011 12:46:52 AM PDT by this_ol_patriot (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner)
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To: Eleutheria5

So what is holding back Israel from going in to Gaza and pounding them into submission?


15 posted on 10/30/2011 1:53:39 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Eleutheria5
Or we could focus on the real threat, Mexico. They are our real enemy, and have killed more Americans, and caused more damage to our nation than any of these crap Muslim nations. The Mexican government has been caught showing their citizens the easiest place along our border to invade, and what to do once they get here. That's an act of war.

Instead of taking care of the enemy already invading, in what's a real attempt at seizing lost Mexican territory, we are concerned with a bunch of nations who may be our enemies, but do not have the ability to destroy the United States while Mexico is in the process of doing it, while we call them a friend.

No Islamic nation or terrorist group has killed as many U.S. citizens, or taken over parts of U.S. territory like Mexico has done while our government acts like a puppet regime controlled by them. It's not even comparable in terms of what we are told are our biggest threats. Not to mention if any of those Islamic nations, or terrorist groups, decide to attack inside the U.S. again they could easily invade from the Mexican border and kill a lot of Americans, but they still wouldn't be able to threaten the fall of our nation without a lot of nuclear weapons they don't have, while Mexico is without a doubt going to lead to the loss of parts of our country if not stopped.

We should put the military on our own border instead of getting involved in 10+ year wars our military isn't even allowed to win. We need to take care of this problem before getting involved all around the world in stuff that's not even comparable to the threat our government doesn't even speak of.

We haven't won a war decisively since WW2 because no one wants to have a total war, but instead an unrealistic war where only the bad guys die, and we are willing to sacrifice numerous U.S. troops just to avoid one civilian casualty. If we don't have the ability to accept the horrors of winning a war, no matter how just, then we need to stop having them altogether. Maybe we can't accept it because the wars aren't really that important like WW2, and shouldn't have happened to begin with.

I sure wouldn't have supported the wars, that should have been finished quickly while Bush was still in office, if I knew they were going to have our guys continuously patrol areas to protect an unfriendly government with no real shared goal of the point of what we're gaining by this now. We just deploy them over and over, and have them patrol areas until they finally get hit with an IED.

What good does having the best trained and equipped troops, and most powerful weaponry on earth if we restrict them so bad they aren't used to their full potential by politicians? Our last decisive victory was WW2, against a much more powerful enemy than anything we have faced since. It's not that our military is weak, it's because we can't accept war anymore.

The WW2 guys we call heroes, and our greatest generation, would be called war criminals now for fighting the way they had to fight to achieve victory. A lot of Conservatives contradict themselves on this as well. They won't accept that type of warfare now, but they sure are proud of the WW2 veterans and the way they fought that war. They should be proud of that, and they should see how the restrictions that get worse with each war have changed everything, and extended wars so long we finally just leave after getting a lot of our guys killed, and spending huge amounts of money.

After 9/11 it didn't help the way we talked about was how our nation is so wondrous and peaceful, and we were going to save the innocent people of these nations. That puts even more pressure to fight an impossible war. We are a great nation that doesn't commit the war atrocities that many nations do, but we still have to fight a horrible and brutal war because that's what war is. The mindset of equating all the good we have done in the world, and the fact we're the greatest nation on earth, led us to believe we can conduct the most humane wars that kill terrorist only, and save civilians. Many of those civilians hate us, and support the terrorist. They just don't want to get involved in the action. War is about killing people and destroying infrastructure the enemy needs to conduct war, and civilians get killed, including innocent women and children. Many refuse to accept that, and instead support losing wars. Don't have a war if you can't accept that, and see those innocent lives lost as the responsibility of an enemy who's responsible for the need of war.

We wouldn't have let human shields stop us from targeting important targets in WW2, and we shouldn't now. They wouldn't use them if they didn't stop our bombings. It's so easy for the enemy to use all these things against us now. All any of our enemies need to do these days is hold out until we leave, and they know it. We will always leave overseas wars that don't seem to have any end in site. We are too concerned with the unavoidable toll of civilian death that we do everything we can to lose wars against much weaker enemies. We killed a lot of civilians in WW2, and it was unavoidable to win the war. Those civilian deaths are on the heads of the axis allies that made the war necessary. We would have lost horribly fighting with the restrictions we do today.

16 posted on 10/30/2011 2:04:11 AM PDT by ThermoNuclearWarrior (Support Herman Cain in the Republican Primary! Donate and Campaign for Herman Cain!)
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To: Eleutheria5

The pollen count seems to be getting worse during the Rabtard Spring.


17 posted on 10/30/2011 3:12:38 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (It is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; ~Vattel's Law of Nations)
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To: ThermoNuclearWarrior

Well, by all means, have a blast, America. Mexico even has oil, so there you are. Clear and present danger from terrorist penetration and everything. Mean time, we (Israelis) really ought to invade Ghaza yesterday, before anyone else jumps into the fray against us.


18 posted on 10/30/2011 3:35:50 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: this_ol_patriot

Ironically, to the extent of what little I’ve seen of Be’er Sheva, Jews and Arabs there seem to get along fine. Guess those Mujahideen in Ghaza just can’t countenance that. What’s the matter? Don’t they want to force scrotal entry into young girls while they screech in pain for all eternity? Yeesh. The more I think of the Moose Limb paradise, the more it sounds like hell.


19 posted on 10/30/2011 3:39:39 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Carthego delenda est
It is a waste of time stepping on individual roaches. You got to gas the nest.
20 posted on 10/30/2011 4:03:40 AM PDT by Yorlik803 (better to die on your feet than live on your knees.)
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To: rawcatslyentist

And the blossoms smell like charred corpses, putrefying in the heat.


21 posted on 10/30/2011 4:20:47 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Carthego delenda est

One side or the other must win in the Middle East. Israel must win or lose. No half measure! The Palestinians know this and will fight as long as it takes to win. Israel must become more aggressive and push them into the sea—they must wallow in a sea of blood or they might as well move out to the USA or Europe. One side must be a clear winner. No half measures will do. Guilt? there is enough for both sides—we are beyond who started what—now it must be about the end game.


22 posted on 10/30/2011 4:43:23 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Eleutheria5
Obamah's Rocket Walking!

From Libya & Egypt to Israel's border.

23 posted on 10/30/2011 4:58:15 AM PDT by TexasCajun (Fast & Furious , Solyndra & Light Squared would be enough to impeach any White President !!)
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To: MaxMax

Thread winner.


24 posted on 10/30/2011 5:03:16 AM PDT by thoolou ("I may have invented it, but Bill made it famous." - David Bradley, inventor of Ctrl-Alt-Del)
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25 posted on 10/30/2011 5:18:04 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Eleutheria5
I think it's pretty obvious a large part of Israel's defense is dependent on the United States. If the U.S. collapses and all Israeli aid is cut off it would have a severe impact on Israel, and could lead them to the same fate. Israel has also started showing weakness in the way they conduct war just like we have. I agree with your opinion, but if you actually fight a war against an aggressor your nation will have the U.S. use it's influence to pressure the Israeli government into halting it's offensive before achieving what's needed. We aren't going to fight wars correctly anymore, and we are going to use our aid to allies to do what we can to stop them from winning wars.

I support Israel, and we are good allies who benefit from that friendship, but it's obvious who's more dependent on the others survival as a nation. Mexico's invasion of the U.S. isn't taken serious by way too many people, and if you're suggesting it has no impact on Israel you're kidding yourself. If we don't get our country moving in the right direction it's not only our nation at risk, but our allies as well.

26 posted on 10/30/2011 6:08:49 AM PDT by ThermoNuclearWarrior (Support Herman Cain in the Republican Primary! Donate and Campaign for Herman Cain!)
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To: Eleutheria5

Occupation requires scarce resources.

Better to sever water, electricity and gas lines. Better to place the entire Gaza in jeopardy and make the women tremble with fearful thought. Better to disrupt transportation and thus all life


27 posted on 10/30/2011 6:25:54 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 ..posted from the great river road)
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To: Eleutheria5
And you shouldn't assume people should know you're an Israeli either, considering we have taken military action, and provided aid for Israel's interest because we see Israel's survival to be in our interest. What you said isn't something that would be surprising for an American to say regarding the American military.

While we should support Israel, the U.S. needs to start using it's own damn oil instead of depending on our enemies for things we have. We protect our oil interest because our nation depends on it for it's survival, which makes our governments refusal to actually mention military action securing something our nation can't survive without annoying.

28 posted on 10/30/2011 6:28:02 AM PDT by ThermoNuclearWarrior (Support Herman Cain in the Republican Primary! Donate and Campaign for Herman Cain!)
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To: ThermoNuclearWarrior

I meant what I say. Do whatever you have to do in Mexico. We should do whatever we have to do in Ghaza, before the war spreads. Frankly, the three billion in aid we get from the US is too costly to both of us. I wish it would stop. It’s not substantial enough to make a real difference either way. Where being best buds with the US really counts for something is in clout. You have it, diplomatic, strategic, military. We don’t. We’re everyone’s whipping boy at the UN. We have no carrier groups, ICBMs, or deep manufacturing infrastructure. The only way we’ve kept our enemies from slaughtering us wholesale is by winning wars. This war has to be won, too, or it won’t matter a bit whether or not the US is our ally. You can’t win it for us. You can’t even fight it with us. You can have a huge effect on the aftermath of a victory, though, for good or bad.

The bottom line is, we need regional allies who are facing the same threat, such as India, South Sudan, the Copts, Lebanese and Arab Christians, Armenians, Greeks. The US is powerful, but also doesn’t have its head screwed on straight. We can’t trust our future to exclusive reliance on the US, although your friendship is a very good thing.


29 posted on 10/30/2011 8:56:34 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5
Here's Lurker's Peace Plan For Israel. I call it "Kilometers for Kassams". Catchy, isn't it?

Here's how it works. For every rocket that lands in Israel the territory it was launched from loses one kilometer of land in the direction of the country it borders. Example: A rocket launched from Gaza results in the border of Gaza being pushed one kilometer closer to Egypt. A rocket launched from the West Bank results in that border being pushed one kilometer closer to Jordan.

The kilometer of territory is then Israeli land forever, no give back under any circumstances.

Eventually the rockets either stop or the residents of the territory involved are shoved back into the country they came from by tanks, rifles, and bayonets.

Anyone who resists is killed.

Either way the rockets stop and Israel wins. It's simple, direct, and right to the point. "Stop shooting at us or lose your territory forever."

Pass that on to Bibi for me. Will you? Thanks.

30 posted on 10/30/2011 9:04:15 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Lurker

Just passed it on to Bibi. He sent me back a form letter:

Dear Eleutheria5:

Thank you for your letter outlining Lurker’s peace plan. It’s a great plan. I endorse it. Vote for me in the next election based on my endorsement of that plan.

Sincerely,

B. Netanyahu
Prime Minister of the
State of Israel

PS: Of course, after the election, once I’m safely entrenched in my office, I’ll come out against it, and bulldoze some settlements, and maybe even do another freeze. I’m Bibi. It’s what I do. But who are you going to replace me with? Tzipi Livni? Ehud Barak?

PPS: Don’t you dare vote Ihud Leumi! Ketzele is an evil fascist! We’ll have WW III! Ketzele. Wooooooooooo!


31 posted on 10/30/2011 10:55:02 AM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5
You're disrespecting us when you play down our help. That 3 billion isn't even close to being all we give. There are Israeli officials who said bombing Iran could lead to a war they couldn't win. I'm sure we won't have money, tech, and weapons involved in the Conflict, if it happens. Israel was pushing for the U.S. to attack the sites to begin with. With no U.S. supplies, weapons, or support whatsoever would be the end of Israel. You would get attacked on several fronts once we're out of the picture completely.

I find it annoying that many Americans seem to either hate Israel, or have a weird love for it like it's the most superior nation on earth while running the U.S. into the ground, even before Obama was elected. I either see Ron Paul's guys attacking it for causing all problems, or others saying things like Israel is a great utopia. Anyone have normal feeling like with our other allies, or is it required to have raging hatred for Israel, or you worship it like it's literally Jesus Christ.

32 posted on 10/30/2011 11:26:33 AM PDT by ThermoNuclearWarrior (Support Herman Cain in the Republican Primary! Donate and Campaign for Herman Cain!)
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To: ThermoNuclearWarrior

In 1967, the US was providing spare parts to Jordan’s air force. Israel was getting spare parts and planes from France, and in partnership with it in developing the Mirage. We were attacked on all fronts, as we were in 1948, both without substantial help from the US, the latter with an actual arms blockade in place. In 1956, the US openly opposed the Sinai campaign, and our allies at that time were France and the UK. It was not until 1973 that the US weighed in heavily on Israel’s side, and you were a lifesaver at that time. But without US support, we’ve held our own and then some in the past, repeatedly attacked from all fronts.

That is not to disrespect US friendship and support. But at present, we have to take a serious look at the possibility of that help and support being withheld or lent to Egypt instead. The bottom line, is we have done it before. We can do it again, and we have natural allies in regional minorities, especially India and eastern Christian countries and communities, and a trump card to play with the Kurds (in the game of divide and stave off annihilation).

The three billion, as I’ve said, ought to be discontinued yesterday. It has too many strings attached to be of real use to us, and face it, the US is an a fiscal balagan (mess), thanks to Obamania.

On this side of the ponds, too many people are convinced that the US is absolutely indispensable. I believe the US is not a country to disregard lightly, but it’s also a mistake to become overly dependent on it.

Throughout our history, that has always cost us. To defeat the Greeks, the Hasmonaeans turned to the Romans for help. Then the Romans became so overbearing that they became our oppressors, so Bar Kochba turned to the Parthans (now Iran). The Parthans let Bar Kochba down, and he was defeated, leading to 1800 years of exile. Then when the Jewish yishuv, which had grown slowly from 1516 (start of Ottoman hegemony) until 1915, was threatened with mass expulsion, we turned to the British. When the British became our oppressors, the Irgun and other resistance groups revolted and gained independence with no major foreign help.

American patronage is a blessing, but it has its drawbacks. Our independence is more important, imho, but to have such a powerful ally is not inimical to independence, so long as it’s understood that we are no vassal state or colony. Powerful empires sometimes have a problem with that. Obama’s administration has a very big problem with that.

Throughout the world, people frequently see us with either pathological antipathy, or irrationally intense admiration. That’s to be expected. We are allegedly The Chosen People. This is allegedly The Promised Land. For the first time since General Severus exiled our forefathers, we’re home and claiming our inheritance, as is prophesied in the Bible (and also predicted in the Koran). That either is an event the world has been waiting for, or an open contradiction to your world view, depending on your background. Ron Paul is of the pathological hatred group. OK. I’m glad you’re not of the other camp. They can be hard to talk to.


33 posted on 10/30/2011 2:30:42 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5
I support Israel, and I get annoyed at times by those who don't seem to recognize everything we have done. It's obvious Israel has the best trained and equipped military in the area, but being so small, and surrounded with enemies makes losing U.S. support important. It's not about who's military is better, and all the patriotic feelings many people in both nations have; It's just that our nations size differences, and the fact we aren't surrounded with our enemies makes a difference.

We are allies, and I don't see anything wrong with friendly debate on military issues between our citizens. The fact is we both have great militaries that are at the top when it comes to any nation.

I also agree with you that it's not a good idea for any nation to get too dependent on another, considering that aid could end suddenly. I'm sure Israel has plans in the case they lose all U.S. help, but they still know how important the U.S. is. I think it's obvious Obama would cut all ties with Israel if he could do it without hurting his support here.

I also know the U.S. is the main nation that puts pressure on Israel to stop wars before they are finished. I'm sick of the way we try to fight wars now, and the way we use our influence to make others fight them the same. If people can't accept a total war then it's not a war that's important enough to be fighting.

Israel is going to have to attack Iran unless it's ready to deal with a nuclear armed Iran, that unlike past conflicts with nuclear armed nations may be willing to destroy itself just to destroy Israel. I know a lot of people are cautious because no one knows for sure the kind of retaliation Iran is capable of, but there are just two choices now.

The way us “civilized” nations are suppose to fight these days are what make me sick. We just had a General in Afghanistan lose his job after complaining about the head of the Afghan government saying they would side with Pakistan in a war against the U.S. even though their government would fall immediately if we left. That kind of stuff should really help the morale of our guys fighting over their keeping this government in power.

The most civilized, and powerful nations of the world are now expected to fight restricted to the point we have to even the playing field with an inferior opponent. We are all doing it now, and it's pathetic. Our enemies will mutilate and play with our dead, but we are suppose to fight to win the “hearts and minds” of scumbags who will never like us.

Israel is always pressured hard to come to temporary peace every time they have a conflict now, and it's always obvious who gains more out of it. It's just pathetic that the best trained and equipped militaries on earth won't use the full potential of their militaries.

After watching several military documentaries on Netflix, and constantly hearing about how the “international community” won't allow the type of war we fought in WW2 just made me sick. Anyone who thinks like that should realize we would have lost the war if we weren't allowed to fight it that way. I'm just ranting now, but when Americans, and our allies get killed in wars that are obviously not being fought right when you look at history it's sick.

34 posted on 11/08/2011 10:01:39 PM PST by ThermoNuclearWarrior (Support Herman Cain in the Republican Primary! Donate and Campaign for Herman Cain!)
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