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Have Glock, Will Travel (New York Times Columnist Up in Arms)
New York Times ^ | 10/24/2011 | Frank Bruni

Posted on 10/30/2011 7:12:56 AM PDT by goldstategop

New York, Connecticut, Massachusetts, New Jersey and several other states don’t have reciprocity arrangements that allow someone like Todd to pay an armed courtesy call. That’s because New York officials can deny concealed-carry permits on a case-by-case basis, whereas many other states — South Dakota, for example — don’t put much stock in such scrutiny.

H.R. 822, now in the House Judiciary Committee, makes a mockery of our diverse values and strategies for public safety. If it were enacted, off to New York the South Dakotan tourist could go, 9-millimeter Glock in tow.

That’s not liberty. More like lunacy.

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You know liberals. They want uniform federal rights - except for gun owners. To them, that's lunacy.

Go figure.

1 posted on 10/30/2011 7:13:00 AM PDT by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop
"That’s not liberty. More like lunacy."

The "lunacy" would be why does someone who lives in SD even want to go to NYC? Perhaps the perps in NYC would be more respectful of out-of-towners?

2 posted on 10/30/2011 7:17:11 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: goldstategop

When he’s in New York working for the NY Times, I’ll bet Frank Bruni stays out of parts of Harlem, Brooklyn, and the South Bronx. Let somebody else be mugged and shot with an illegal weapon, the only kind most New Yorkers are allowed to carry.


3 posted on 10/30/2011 7:17:51 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: goldstategop

A 9mm? Pretty light...Noo Yawk would be .45 territory, imho.


4 posted on 10/30/2011 7:21:39 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Cicero

I’m sure he can get a permit with his political views and connections to City Hall.

Most New Yorkers will never be able to pack heat because Bloomberg thinks only the elites deserve self-protection.


5 posted on 10/30/2011 7:21:49 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

They want power concentrated in reporters, lawyers and politicians, not individuals.


6 posted on 10/30/2011 7:23:36 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: goldstategop
"If it were enacted, off to New York the South Dakotan tourist could go, 9-millimeter Glock in tow. That’s not liberty. More like lunacy."

The lunacy is being required to surrender arms and render yourself defenseless when merely crossing into another state. Despite, being thoroughly vetted and authorized by duly constituted state and federal law enforcement entities to acquire, posses, and carry.
7 posted on 10/30/2011 7:23:45 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: goldstategop

Heaven forbid we should allow the little people to protect themselves while traveling from one state to another.


8 posted on 10/30/2011 7:24:11 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Exactly.

Bruni is a liar. In New York City, the permitting system is hopelessly corrupt. If you don’t have political connections, financial clout or aren’t a celebrity, don’t bother to apply.

That’s the way its been there for a century.


9 posted on 10/30/2011 7:26:46 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

He was up in arms the first time this was posted, too.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2797622/posts


10 posted on 10/30/2011 7:27:59 AM PDT by humblegunner (The kinder, gentler version...)
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To: PowderMonkey

Federal and state law enforcement officials can already carry concealed nationwide, regardless of local law. Liberals just don’t want the little people to have the same right cops do!


11 posted on 10/30/2011 7:29:35 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

I don’t know which is more astonishing: A Lib having a 10 Amendment epiphany, or the idea that someone from South Dakota would ever want to visit NYC.

We live in strange times.

Of course, the New Yorkers probably did prefer those nicely appointed, cultured British troops occupying their fair city throughout much of the Revolutionary War anyway, rather than Washington’s surrounding riffraff. Sad day for them, I suppose, when the Brits sailed away.


12 posted on 10/30/2011 7:30:54 AM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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13 posted on 10/30/2011 7:32:41 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: humblegunner

You posted it in General Chat. Sorry I didn’t see it come up when I searched for it.


14 posted on 10/30/2011 7:33:57 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
but they want universal exception for fagot marriage...
15 posted on 10/30/2011 7:37:56 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: goldstategop
"..In New York City, the permitting system is hopelessly corrupt..."

Sullivan Act

"....Named for its primary legislative sponsor, state senator Timothy Sullivan, a notoriously corrupt Tammany Hall politician, it dates to 1911, and is still in force, making it one of the older existing gun control laws in the United States..."

16 posted on 10/30/2011 7:39:27 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: Anti-Bubba182

The main motive for the law was to keep guns out of the hands of a rising immigrant and black population.

Now its used by the elite to keep the rif-raff from competing with their exclusive monopoly on gun ownership in New York City.


17 posted on 10/30/2011 7:43:16 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Of course Bruni would expect the Constitution’s ‘full faith and credit’ provision to apply to gay marriage.

I wonder why.


18 posted on 10/30/2011 7:44:35 AM PDT by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: goldstategop
You know liberals. They want uniform federal rights - except for gun owners. To them, that's lunacy.

Situation Ethics. Carte Blanche for liberals to do anything at anytime. And always be right.

Situation ethics means there is no requirement to be consistent in your beliefs. Right for me is wrong for you. Wrong today is right tomorrow.

19 posted on 10/30/2011 7:45:25 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: goldstategop

I suggest that concealed carry rights are granted in the federal constitution, by the Privileges and Immunities clause. States have no rights to deny Privileges and Immunities granted by other states.

Concealed carry is a privilege granted by your state, right?

I would look forward to seeing a SCOTUS case seeking redress: federal denial of the ability of another state to deny your CCW privilege.


20 posted on 10/30/2011 7:50:19 AM PDT by donmeaker (e is trancendental)
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To: goldstategop

In one state, you’re a law abiding citizen, but cross the wrong state line and you become an automatic criminal.


21 posted on 10/30/2011 7:50:19 AM PDT by umgud
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To: Cicero
I bet he's more like many of the other, most vocal, opponents of gun rights and has a Glock of his own in his home. Like most liberals, I suspect he is one of those lefty elites who thinks it's okay for HIM, but all of us low-lifes shouldn't have the same rights.

Remember William Raspberry? He was one of the most vocal opponents of 2nd Amendment protections right up until he shot some burglar on his property. How about North Carolina State Senator R.C. Soles who fought against gun rights his entire life then shot an intruder back in February of this year?
22 posted on 10/30/2011 7:50:31 AM PDT by Sudetenland (There can be no freedom without God--What man gives, man can take away.)
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To: dagogo redux

I suppose they got over it while NY was our nation’s capital.


23 posted on 10/30/2011 7:52:19 AM PDT by donmeaker (e is trancendental)
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To: Smokin' Joe

what do you think of a 38?


24 posted on 10/30/2011 7:53:50 AM PDT by ncpatriot
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To: goldstategop
If it were enacted, off to New York the South Dakotan tourist could go, 9-millimeter Glock in tow.

Given the necessity to go about unarmed, I would rather be unarmed in North Dakota than New York.

25 posted on 10/30/2011 7:54:28 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Sudetenland

Of course they do. The worst offenders are hypocrites and its OK for them to protect themselves and their families but they want to deny you doing it for you and yours.


26 posted on 10/30/2011 7:54:52 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Pontiac

I’ve never felt the need to carry a gun in my rural neck of the woods. That’s different in the urban jungle.


27 posted on 10/30/2011 7:56:31 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

Let’s just take some joy in the fact that a deceasing percentage of folks read the NYT, and even fewer actually take to heart what they read.

The MSM is losing, and they don’t like it.

And for me, I don’t give a smelly Obama what a journalist thinks about guns. As if this clown knew which end the bullet came out of.


28 posted on 10/30/2011 8:09:44 AM PDT by Da Coyote (Ngs)
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To: PowderMonkey
The lunacy is being required to surrender arms and render yourself defenseless when merely crossing into another state. Despite, being thoroughly vetted and authorized by duly constituted state and federal law enforcement entities to acquire, posses, and carry.

And liberty is not having obtain a permit to carry open or concealed, much less having to obtain a permit to own a gun. (Four states have it right, only 53 to go. ;-)

29 posted on 10/30/2011 8:17:38 AM PDT by CPOSharky (The only thing straight, white, Christian males get is the blame for everything.)
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To: goldstategop

What a @$$clown !

Liberals favor uniform federal laws only if it restricts liberty. For example, speed limits (gone for now), seatbelt laws, helmet laws (gone for now), prohibition like more draconian DUI and drinking age laws. Anything that favors individual liberty is out !


30 posted on 10/30/2011 8:18:14 AM PDT by CORedneck
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To: goldstategop
I’ve never felt the need to carry a gun in my rural
neck of the woods. That’s different in the urban jungle.

Yhea, They're animals up (I'm in KY:) there...
out here in "the sticks"; We just gotta worry 'bout bears, Varmints (rabid 'coons / 'possums) & the occasional HVAC copper wire thieves.
Ky Gun Control: proper stance / good eye / S&W Handgun
500 Cal Magnum / double tap. (short version :)


31 posted on 10/30/2011 8:21:47 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (I can take tomorrow, spend it all today. Who can take your income, tax it all away. Obama Man can. :)
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To: Sudetenland
I don't think that was Raspberry though. I think it was some black lefty Washington columnist whose name I am blocking on.
32 posted on 10/30/2011 8:24:59 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: goldstategop

The three people who still read the new york times are really agitated.


33 posted on 10/30/2011 8:31:11 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: hinckley buzzard

Carl Rowan (used ILLEGAL handgun to shoot at “children”).


34 posted on 10/30/2011 8:31:16 AM PDT by hoosierham (Waddaya mean Freedom isn't free ?;will you take a credit card?)
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To: goldstategop

Which state, per capita, has a lower crime rate?


35 posted on 10/30/2011 8:38:32 AM PDT by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: goldstategop
...and when Democrats controlled Congress for the first two years of Barack Obama’s presidency, they made no major progress on gun control. Reluctant to cross the N.R.A., they let it slide.

Dems were NOT 'reluctant' to cross the NRA - that's a lie. A typical New York Times lie. The reason dems didn't take on gun control WAS BECAUSE THE ISSUE DOESN'T WORK FOR THEM. The polls changed some years back - - dems discovered they LOST voters over the issue - and dropped it like a hot potato...

36 posted on 10/30/2011 8:48:13 AM PDT by GOPJ ( Democrats are the only reason to vote for Republicans.... Will Rogers)
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To: goldstategop

Amazing that Liberals are so up in arms over law-abiding citizens exercising their 2d Amendment rights.


37 posted on 10/30/2011 9:00:45 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici ("Si, se gimme!")
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To: hinckley buzzard

LOL! Raspberry was a “black lefty Washington columnist.” :^)


38 posted on 10/30/2011 9:14:20 AM PDT by Sudetenland (There can be no freedom without God--What man gives, man can take away.)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Did some research and you’re right, it was Carl Rowan—another black lefty Washington columnist—not William Raspberry who had the unregistered gun.


39 posted on 10/30/2011 9:30:00 AM PDT by Sudetenland (There can be no freedom without God--What man gives, man can take away.)
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To: Sudetenland

The original reasoning behind gun control, both in England and America, was a fear of a Communist uprising. You disarm the populace and the government has less to fear, which was demonstrated when the people rose up and threw out the Czar...then were disarmed by the Communists who took control.

Governments fear an armed populace..as well they should!


40 posted on 10/30/2011 9:39:43 AM PDT by rstrahan
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To: goldstategop
That’s because New York officials can deny concealed-carry permits on a case-by-case basis, whereas many other states — South Dakota, for example — don’t put much stock in such scrutiny.

Turning non-discrimination and equal protection of the law into the the naivete of flyover-country rubes -- in one sentence. J-school really instills some skills, you betcha.

41 posted on 10/30/2011 9:59:12 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Smokin' Joe
A 9mm? Pretty light...Noo Yawk would be .45 territory, imho.

Maybe .46! ;-)

42 posted on 10/30/2011 10:00:38 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Sudetenland

Not to speak of all the liberal politicians and Hollywood stars who have armed guards with them wherever they go.


43 posted on 10/30/2011 10:08:07 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: goldstategop

Frank Bruni, food critic - New York Times

44 posted on 10/30/2011 10:19:33 AM PDT by kcvl
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May 2011, he became the first openly gay Op-Ed columnist of The New York Times.


45 posted on 10/30/2011 10:21:36 AM PDT by kcvl
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Bruni wrote in Men’s Vogue of his search for a workout to combat the calories he consumes as a food writer, and in the April 2008 issue he wrote about his addiction to sleeping pills.


46 posted on 10/30/2011 10:23:27 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: goldstategop

Talking about gun control with friends in cab, I hear cab driver announce, “I’m carrying a loaded gun.” tinyurl.com/6x8u59l

https://mobile.twitter.com/#!/FrankBruni


47 posted on 10/30/2011 10:26:23 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: goldstategop

Reminder to anyone who wants to ask about journalism, politics, food: I’m at LGBT Center in the Village tomorrow, http://t.co/g0eRJHPv
10 Oct

https://mobile.twitter.com/#!/FrankBruni

Is a round man entitled to the Oval Office? My Sunday column, on weight, the presidency and Gov. Christie, http://t.co/x5IrwCgp
1 Oct

I love “related stories” tabs. Was reading about Christie on Daily Beast. “Related” was “Weather Man Found with Dead Man in Tub.”

Interesting, important, troubling NYT story about how disempowered and alienated voters worldwide feel, http://t.co/Bb3lVErO
28 Sep

Crazy-gorgeous day in Lisbon, a city I absolutely love. Toasting it now with wine.
17 Sep

Really? Lawmakers raffle off a Glock in state where Giffords shot? Speechless. http://t.co/miScU80
1 Sep

My friend Alessandra assures me she has “flashlights and chilled wine.” Note to self: put a few more bottles in ‘frig. #ireneprep
27 Aug


48 posted on 10/30/2011 10:37:38 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: goldstategop
Where I live I do not always feel so secure with out a fire arm.

When I was younger there were occasionally packs of feral dogs that roamed the rural area where I cared for my grandmother’s property. So I would open carry when working outside.

Now recently I have found bear tracks on my property and this is only semi-rural. We also have coyote in the area.

I don’t so much fear the feral two legged animals here so much but I think it may be reasonably cautious to go armed to protect myself from the 4 legged variety.

49 posted on 10/30/2011 11:12:42 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: GOPJ
Dems were NOT 'reluctant' to cross the NRA ---dems discovered they LOST voters over the issue - and dropped it like a hot potato...

For the Lefties it is the same thing.

For those on the Left if you vote pro-gun you are an NRA member or sympathetic with the NRA. For them it is black and white.

Pro-gun=NRA

Pro-gun control=reasonable and logical

The Left does not believe in personal protection. For them no one should have to protect themselves if we just get the guns off the streets nobody will need to protect themselves. They believe that the State has a total monopoly on lethal force at all times; Individuals must always defer to the state the use of arms.

For the Left individuals going about armed is an invitation to chaos and the old West depicted in spaghetti Westerns.

50 posted on 10/30/2011 11:27:08 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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