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Former Gov. Lingle not running from RINO tag (self-proclaimed RINO stabs conservatives)
The Hill, Washington, DC ^ | 2011-10-25 | Josh Lederman

Posted on 10/30/2011 8:27:20 AM PDT by rabscuttle385

LAS VEGAS — For most Republican politicians, there is no smear more loathed, more insulting or more politically perilous than to be called a RINO — a Republican in Name Only.

Not for Linda Lingle.

“I’ve been called a RINO before, which I don’t mind,” the former Hawaii governor told a crowd of diehard Republican activists huddled in a Las Vegas ballroom. “There are a lot of people who support these RINOs, whether it’s me or [former New York Mayor] Rudy Giuliani or [former New Jersey Gov.] Christine Todd Whitman.”

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And from Lingle’s point of view, moderate Republican candidates such as herself are the GOP’s silver bullet and its best hope for expanding the map and retaking control of the Senate.

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Lingle’s record as governor includes...tax increases for mass transit projects and cigarettes, and [she] spoke out for expanding renewable energy.

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Meanwhile, Lingle knows exactly the role she sees herself playing in the Senate. She points to another centrist Republican woman, her close friend Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine), as an example of the approach she will take.

“She’s been able to be very true to her values. She doesn’t always go with the party leadership, but they respect her,” Lingle said.

Describing an “executive caucus” of former governors and mayors who bring pragmatic experience to the Senate, Lingle said she expects to be one of the lawmakers called upon to serve in Gang of 12-like arrangements...

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: 2012elections; gop4obama; hawaii; lingle; maine; rino; rinoparty; rinos4obama; taxes; ussenate

1 posted on 10/30/2011 8:27:24 AM PDT by rabscuttle385
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To: rabscuttle385
Lingle said she expects to be one of the lawmakers called upon to serve in Gang of 12-like arrangements...

Woman has a pretty high opinion of herself. You gotta get elected first, Linda. good luck.

2 posted on 10/30/2011 8:30:44 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: rabscuttle385

“moderate Republican candidates such as herself are the GOP’s silver bullet and its best hope for expanding the map and retaking control of the Senate”

But what would be the point. Whether the Senate is controlled by “progressives” who happen to have an R next to their name rather than a D doesn’t make a bit of difference. Except to politicians such as Lingle acquiring personal power and opportunity for self aggrandizement.


3 posted on 10/30/2011 8:32:24 AM PDT by all the best
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To: rabscuttle385
“There are a lot of people who support these RINOs...

Yes lingle, they are called democrats.

4 posted on 10/30/2011 8:34:56 AM PDT by SunTzuWu
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To: rabscuttle385
She points to another centrist Republican woman, her close friend Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine), as an example of the approach she will take.

Centrist?

Of the Socialist Party perhaps..

5 posted on 10/30/2011 8:35:05 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: rabscuttle385

Saying you are a RINO is like being straight but saying you are gay.


6 posted on 10/30/2011 8:37:55 AM PDT by Leep
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To: all the best
Are you forgetting that Scott Brown's ( whom everyone here loves to beat up on) win in Mass..signaled the start of the GOP resurgance. Lingle is an economic conservative,m and in Hawaii, that's about as good as w can hope for..unless you want another 4o years of an incumbent senile idiot Dem...

if you want ideological purity..don't support her.

The fact that she's willing to make the race suggests to me that she feels tnhat she can win..which means that the peopel are starting to turn against the extreme dem agenda..

7 posted on 10/30/2011 8:38:10 AM PDT by ken5050 (Cain/Gingrich 2012!!! because sharing a couch with Pelosi is NOT the same as sharing a bed with her)
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To: ken5050
Lingle is an economic conservative

...who supports tax increases for mass transit projects...

In other words, she supports raising taxes to prop up Big Government™.

8 posted on 10/30/2011 8:39:44 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: rabscuttle385

Those type of candidates are how we have the mess we do.


9 posted on 10/30/2011 8:41:51 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Those type of candidates are how we have the mess we do.


10 posted on 10/30/2011 8:41:51 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: rabscuttle385

I am not defending Lingle..I am merely saying that in Hawaii, she’s as good as we can hope for, at this time. She’ll be a start, in Hawaii, to developing a viable two-party structure..


11 posted on 10/30/2011 8:51:09 AM PDT by ken5050 (Cain/Gingrich 2012!!! because sharing a couch with Pelosi is NOT the same as sharing a bed with her)
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To: ken5050

Well Exactly. She is a product of her State.

RINO’s in most states arent doing so well/


12 posted on 10/30/2011 8:54:21 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: rabscuttle385; Impy; Clintonfatigued; BillyBoy; AuH2ORepublican; Clemenza; Crichton
Lingle was a mediocre Governor and she did zilch to improve the lot of the HI GOP (and in fact, she completed destroyed all the prior gains made), which is now the weakest in the United States. There is now only one Republican in the HI State Senate (we had 20% at the start of Lingle's term and now that's 4%). In the House, we dwindled down from 37% in 2000 to 12% by her last term. Frankly, I'd prefer to cut loose HI as a state and just keep our bases. It's offensive that the two geriatric Socialists in the Senate from an island thousands of miles from the mainland can hold the difference between a GOP and Democrat majority.
13 posted on 10/30/2011 8:55:26 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: ken5050
to developing a viable two-party structure..

It does no good if the two parties are "Communist" (D) and "Socialist" (R). Oh, wait, that's the way it is already, my bad.

14 posted on 10/30/2011 8:56:32 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: ken5050

See post #13. She not only did nothing to develop a viable two-party structure, she reversed all the prior gains to the point that the party is effectively dead.


15 posted on 10/30/2011 8:57:35 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Sounds like what Romney did in Massachusetts.


16 posted on 10/30/2011 9:03:18 AM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; rabscuttle385; Venturer

I’ll accept your statements as accurate. So let me pose the question differently. Is the GOP, and the country, better off with Brown in the Senate from Mass, or Coakley, or possibly a Warren? I think Brown, easily...and the same can hopefully be said with Lingle in the Senate.


17 posted on 10/30/2011 9:04:35 AM PDT by ken5050 (Cain/Gingrich 2012!!! because sharing a couch with Pelosi is NOT the same as sharing a bed with her)
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To: ken5050

Given the choices and the realities of Hawaiian politics, I’d vote for Lingle in a heartbeat.

I’m not thrilled with many of her positions, but she’s also for medical tort reform and health care vouchers, supports free trade, opposes partial-birth abortion, and has been critical of EPA over-regulation.

Not a perfect platform, but probably the best any of us can hope for out of the Aloha state. I’ll take “half a conservative” in this case over Akaka or his potential successor any day of the week.


18 posted on 10/30/2011 9:10:16 AM PDT by DemforBush (Serpentine, Shel! Serpentine!)
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To: rabscuttle385

Frankly, I couldn’t tell you what much good she did in office with respect to policy. The difference, however, is that unlike Lingle, Willard merely used the Governorship as a resume padder to the Presidency (when the Senate race against the Swimmer didn’t work out). Lingle knows she’ll never be President.


19 posted on 10/30/2011 9:12:24 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: ken5050

Well, Brown isn’t as left-wing as the Maine Twins (for whom Lingle would likely model herself on). I’m saying that with Lingle as a Senator, there’d be little positive to it if she intends to vote left 80-90% of the time (as the Maine Twins). She’d be the “lead Republican” in Hawaii and would likely keep the party as dead as it is at present. At some point and with some Republicans, it just isn’t worth it because they’re no help to the Conservative cause. I don’t expect her to win the race unless the Democrats completely blow it.


20 posted on 10/30/2011 9:20:34 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

The Maine twins DO NOT vote liberal 80-90% of the time but their act has worn thin and it’s time to throw them out-won’t happen. Lingle on the other hand is better than Akaka just like Scott brown is better than 40 years of Ted Kennedy. Let’s help them win one or 2 terms and then when they act like the Maine twins it’s time to toss them out. Heather Wilson in NM is another.


21 posted on 10/30/2011 9:33:35 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Although they have both “improved” slightly, in 2008, Susan Collins got an 80% liberal rating and Olympia Snowe got an 88% liberal rating from the ACU. That’s horrible for a Democrat, nevermind a Republican.


22 posted on 10/30/2011 9:48:30 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: rabscuttle385

“There are a lot of people who support these RINOs, whether it’s me or [former New York Mayor] Rudy Giuliani or [former New Jersey Gov.] Christine Todd Whitman.”

Those lot of people are called democrats and they do support RINOs until the time they run opposite a member of the democrat party.


23 posted on 10/30/2011 9:59:03 AM PDT by Waryone (RINOs, Elites, and Socialists - on the endangered list, soon to become extinct.)
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24 posted on 10/30/2011 10:01:50 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; BillyBoy; Impy; Clintonfatigued; ken5050; rabscuttle385; DemforBush; DIRTYSECRET; ..

I’ll still take her over Hirono or Case. And I’m not saying that Hawaii can’t elect someone more conservative than Lingle (I’m sure it can); I’m saying that it won’t elect a more conservative nobody, and we have no bench in Hawaii (Aiona’s and Djou’s losses last November killed any chance we had of building a bench of moderate-to-conservative Republican officeholders who could win a U.S. Senate race).

Nominating Lingle is pretty much our only shot at winning the Senate race next year, not because she’s a moderate, but because she has the type of experience and résumé that most Hawaii voters would expect before even considering voting for a Republican for the Senate (their standards are much lower for Democrat candidates), and has the name ID and fundraising ability that a Republican needs in order to run a competitive race. Hopefully Lingle can beat Hirono or Case (thus preventing the Dems from holding the seat for another 36 years—if Hirono or Case win, Hawaiians will keep sending them back to the Senate until they die or retire), and Djou can win back his U.S. House seat; in 2014 Aiona can try again for the governorship and in 2016 Djou can run for the Senate seat that Inouye (if he lives that long) will finally be vacating.


25 posted on 10/30/2011 10:12:06 AM PDT by AuH2ORepublican (If a politician won't protect innocent babies, what makes you think that he'll protect your rights?)
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To: AuH2ORepublican

I’m not sure if Aiona would even want to try for a rematch. The fact he could only muster 41% in a good GOP year against a certifiable hippie Haole moonbat wasn’t good. Since statehood in 1959 (excluding 1982 & 1994 when the anti-Dem vote was split), his was the 2nd worst showing for a GOP Gubernatorial candidate (Fred Hemmings in 1990 got the lowest, at 39%).


26 posted on 10/30/2011 10:27:21 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: ken5050

“in Hawaii, she’s as good as we can hope for”

Sadly this is true. Unicorns and menehunes are more observable in Hawaii than true political conservatives. Just ask Sam Slom, the only republican in the state senate - and about the only true conservative in the whole state.

It is very hard to defeat the entrenched democrat bureaucracy of Japanese public workers. I love the Asian people, but they will vote democrat to save their jobs. Hawaii is a strong ethnic-voting state.

Lingle is on record as opposing any tax on millionaires.


27 posted on 10/30/2011 10:56:11 AM PDT by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: rabscuttle385

Just what we need. Another susan collins, olympia snowe, RINO cockroach. They’ve done so well in the past running our country into the ground.


28 posted on 10/30/2011 11:52:21 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: ken5050

Your sentence stated that Lingle is a fiscal conservative, but left out the second half, which is, let me guess, a social liberal. Right?
If so, you are sadly mistaken. Liberal social policies can NOT work hand in hand with conservative fiscal policies. Why? Because social policy drives the budget. Liberal social policies drive a liberal fiscal policy.


29 posted on 10/30/2011 11:55:55 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: ken5050

Certainly we are better off with Brown and Lingle than a Democrat, but it is a matter of increments.


30 posted on 10/30/2011 11:57:16 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: rabscuttle385
Former Gov. Lingle not running from RINO tag (self-proclaimed RINO stabs conservatives)

O RINO, where is thy sting? I read the article. I don't see her stabbing anybody. She is who she is. She's up front about it. She's the best chance Republicans and, well, conservatives have in Hawaii. If you want to attack her, you'll attack her, but don't pretend she's the aggressor.

31 posted on 10/30/2011 12:21:56 PM PDT by x
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To: AuH2ORepublican; fieldmarshaldj; Impy; GOPsterinMA

I also think that Linda Lingle is our only shot at victory and she forces DemocRATS to spend money and resources that they’d rather spend elsewhere. As for the losses in the state legislature, in 2006 and 2008, a liberal perfect storm swept across many northern tier and Pacific states, the result of an anti-Bush backlash that local Republicans were powerless to stop.


32 posted on 10/30/2011 2:56:40 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens collect welfare checks that Americans won't collect)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I was mildly shocked that Aiona did so poorly.


33 posted on 10/31/2011 3:05:36 PM PDT by Impy (Don't call me red.)
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To: Impy

I was completely floored. I knew he was trailing, but most GOP Gubernatorial candidates have performed well in HI going back to statehood. Given the year, he shouldn’t have received less than, say, 47%. I don’t understand the appeal of a dingbat like Abercrombie who has done absolutely nothing to warrant election to any post of responsibility.


34 posted on 11/01/2011 3:43:57 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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