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Is GOP Absorbing the Tea Party, or Is the Establishment Toppling? (GOP wants to "control" you)
Sunshine State News ^ | 2011-10-20 | Kenric Ward

Posted on 10/30/2011 8:32:59 AM PDT by rabscuttle385

Is the GOP co-opting the tea party movement, or are tea partiers taking down the establishment and sending the RINOs packing?

A lengthy New York Times magazine article this week quoted several establishment Republicans crowing over what they see as the demise of the two-year-old tea party activism.

Bill Kristol, the neoconservative editor of the Weekly Standard and a Fox News contributor, said the tea party peddles "an infantile form of conservatism."

Veteran Republican strategist Scott Reed took the disdain one step further, saying the GOP is steadily co-opting the grass-roots movement.

"That’s the secret to politics: trying to control a segment of people without those people recognizing that you’re trying to control them," Reed said of the GOP's assimilation strategy.

(Excerpt) Read more at sunshinestatenews.com ...


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FUGOP!!!
1 posted on 10/30/2011 8:33:03 AM PDT by rabscuttle385
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To: rabscuttle385

I avoid large “Tea party” groups because they take money and the strings that come with it from big donors.

The soul of the tea party lives in the hearts of individuals.


2 posted on 10/30/2011 8:35:24 AM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: rabscuttle385

They think they are...


3 posted on 10/30/2011 8:36:36 AM PDT by CSI007
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To: rabscuttle385

Bill Kristol sickens me. He’s a mewling, whimpering little wuss who peddles the thin gruel form of Republicanism. I was an charter subscriber to The Weekly Standard in 1994 and allowed my subscription to lapse because of his gutless and feckless gyrations in protest of strong and bold conservative ideals.

He’s nothing more than a paid mouthpiece for the establishment. They could care less if they win or lose. They just want to maintain control of the party apparatus.


4 posted on 10/30/2011 8:37:58 AM PDT by Buckeye Battle Cry (Obama - No matter how thin he slices it, it's still baloney.)
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To: rabscuttle385

how dare voters hold their congressman accountable


5 posted on 10/30/2011 8:39:53 AM PDT by 4rcane
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To: rabscuttle385
several establishment Republicans crowing over what they see as the demise of the two-year-old tea party activism.

I wonder if they will crow when the RINO shill they run goes down to defeat and Obama makes the GOP irrelevant.

6 posted on 10/30/2011 8:40:10 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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To: rabscuttle385
Is the GOP co-opting the tea party movement,...

If they can they will.

It's the reason for the Tea Party in the first place.

7 posted on 10/30/2011 8:44:00 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Buckeye Battle Cry

Palin, boehner, mcconnell , and beck killed off the tea party.


8 posted on 10/30/2011 8:45:53 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: rabscuttle385

Wrong, Kristol.

The Tea Party has always been with us, and always will.

It’s nothing more than concerned, patriotic citizens, who are appalled by our runaway government. Formerly without a voice or an identity, the”tea party” has coalesced into a national movement with a bit of help from talk radio and Rick Santelli.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with government by grass-root citizens, who rise up when they’re needed, and go back to their private lives when they’re not.

Just as the founders intended.

And for anyone to claim that they “lead” the Tea Party is just plain nuts. Patriots do not need to be guided, they already know what needs to be done.


9 posted on 10/30/2011 8:51:59 AM PDT by Tigerized (Occupy Wall Street? Go find the real culprits in the Capitol Building...)
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To: rabscuttle385

WE NEED A TEA PARTY MARCH ON GOP HEADQUARTERS


10 posted on 10/30/2011 8:53:33 AM PDT by Mr. K (We need a TEA Party march on GOP headquarters ~!!)
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To: rabscuttle385

Is the GOP co-opting the tea party movement, or are tea partiers taking down the establishment and sending the RINOs packing?

We’ll know by april.


11 posted on 10/30/2011 8:55:52 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Tea Party=Political Philosophy. How can you usurp a political philosophy?


12 posted on 10/30/2011 9:00:42 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: rabscuttle385

Beware....unbelievers, liberals and media...the Tea Party treads softly, meets quietly, watches intently and has this strange habit of appearing in large numbers in November at the only place that counts.....the voting booth. You may not hear them....but they are there just waiting for November.


13 posted on 10/30/2011 9:05:14 AM PDT by when the time is right
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To: rabscuttle385
Of course the GOP despises the TEA party.

Most of these people like Bill Kristol, Mark Levin, & John McCain are neoconservatives. They supported the terrorists in Libya, they support Romney, they expect conservatives to shut up and fall in line.

The problem is there are still people who think the GOP is any different than the Democrats. They both hate conservatives.

14 posted on 10/30/2011 9:08:32 AM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: rabscuttle385
"That’s the secret to politics: trying to control a segment of people without those people recognizing that you’re trying to control them," Reed said of the GOP's assimilation strategy.

Right. We saw how well it worked for Bob Bennett in Utah. Assimilated the hell outa them thar tea partiers. Trent Lott was proud.

15 posted on 10/30/2011 9:10:52 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: GlockThe Vote
Palin, boehner, mcconnell , and beck killed off the tea party.

Right. That's why the 'rats held on to the House in 2010. Boehner's job as Weeper of the House may be hanging by a thread after 2012. So far he has failed to perform. Not that he was ever a tea partier to begin with. McConnell never was either but IDK about his future in the senate leadership. A strong class in 2012 and he may also face a serious challenge.

16 posted on 10/30/2011 9:16:56 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: hinckley buzzard

Show me the last tea party rally that was held. What was the last thing the tea party got done?

The gop rinos played the tea party like a fiddle.


17 posted on 10/30/2011 9:25:20 AM PDT by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: GlockThe Vote

“Show me the last tea party rally that was held. What was the last thing the tea party got done?”

The 2010 election in both cases for me. Next up is the 2012 election. Now you can go back to RINO or Obama headquarters.


18 posted on 10/30/2011 9:45:02 AM PDT by Parley Baer
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To: rabscuttle385

“Is the GOP co-opting the tea party movement, or are tea partiers taking down the establishment and sending the RINOs packing?”

I’d say they’d like to do the former, because the country-club GOP establishment is really a bunch of conservative Democrats who find a bunch of non-elite socially conservative proles who want less government to be at the very least distasteful.


19 posted on 10/30/2011 10:15:01 AM PDT by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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To: rabscuttle385

Each and every one of the republicans running for reelection, bar none, should be primaried just to make sure that the right tea party canidate is on the ballot.


20 posted on 10/30/2011 10:17:53 AM PDT by anchorclankor (From the main part of Missouri)
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To: rabscuttle385

I never heard of Scott Reed, but he and the rest of the RINO establishment can go to hell.


21 posted on 10/30/2011 10:21:56 AM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (The "Occupy Wall Street" losers should try occupying their local employment office. GET A JOB!)
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To: Minus_The_Bear

Add Rubio to your list.

Rubio visits with former rebels in Libya
http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/09/29/2430775/rubio-visits-with-former-rebels.html

Rubio ‘cautiously optimistic about Libya’s future’ after touring Tripoli
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/news/state/rubio-cautiously-optimistic-about-libyas-future-after-touring-1887062.html

Dream VP Marco Rubio: Libya action in U.S. interest
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0611/57943.html


22 posted on 10/30/2011 10:26:12 AM PDT by luckybogey
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Click The Pic

In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams

23 posted on 10/30/2011 10:28:28 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: rabscuttle385
Let's face it! Technology has outstripped the so-called conservative "establishment" types--the same technology they have used to promote a brand of "conservatism" which is not in tune with essential Constitutional principles Tea Partiers intend to preserve.

Every American citizen who has access to a computer can read for themselves the writings of such great defenders of liberty as Washington, the Adamses, Jefferson, Madison, etc. They do not have to rely on second-hand versions of their ideas, as translated through current magazines and talking heads.

Thus, Tea Partiers are outspoken advocates for the philosophy of their Declaration of Independence, for the built-in protections of their Constitution, and they understand that neither Democrats nor Republicans have been adequate guardians of that philosophy and those protections.

Tea Partiers are closer to the philosophy which gave birth to the "American miracle" than any single movement since the founding of the Republic, and they will not be silenced. They know that if they do not prevail in efforts to rediscover, rekindle, and implement the Founders' ideas in the minds of rising generations, then liberty may be lost.

"An infantile form of conservatism"?

Think again, Bill!

You may not be as "in tune" as you believe with the host of Americans who embrace the Tea Partiers' cause, which is much more sophisticated and informed and in line with Kirk's "Conservative Mind" than with the views expressed in "Weekly Standard."

Just perhaps, they are becoming as informed as ordinary citizens Tocqueville visited in the American wilderness of the 1830's, whom he described in the following manner:

"It cannot be doubted that in the United States the instruction of the people powerfully contributes to the support of the democratic republic; and such must always be the case, I believe, where the in ­ struction which enlightens the understanding is not separated from the moral education ...." The American citizen, he said, "..will inform you what his rights are and by what means he exercises them .. In the United States, politics are the end and aim of education ... every citizen receives the elementary notions of human knowledge; he is taught, moreover, the doctrines and the evidences of his religion, the history of his country, and the leading features of its Constitution .... it is extremely rare to find a man imperfectly acquainted with all these things, and a person wholly ignorant of them is a sort of phenomenon .... It is difficult to imagine the incredible rapidity with which thought circulates in the midst of these deserts [wilderness]. I do not think that so much intellectual activity exists in the most enlightened and populous districts of France."


24 posted on 10/30/2011 10:28:59 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: luckybogey
Yeah, I was pretty disappointed when Rubio did that.

I guess he just doesn't understand that the Libyan terrorists will sell weapons to harm Israel.
25 posted on 10/30/2011 10:45:29 AM PDT by Minus_The_Bear
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To: GlockThe Vote
Show me the last tea party rally that was held. What was the last thing the tea party got done?

September 2011 in W.PA and about 2,500 racist, bigots were present.

We burned a cross, an American flag, threw granny {in a wheel chair} over a cliff, drowned a kid with Downs Syndrome and beat up all the "different" people that showed up.

We would have done more but we all got drunk, had sex with the farm animals and passed out.

How's that for getting stuff done?

26 posted on 10/30/2011 11:06:21 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the Terrorists Savages)
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To: Parley Baer
Now you can go back to RINO or Obama headquarters.

No need to repeat yourself. They are one and the same.

27 posted on 10/30/2011 12:30:18 PM PDT by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: GlockThe Vote

“Palin, boehner, mcconnell , and beck killed off the tea party.”

Don’t you wish! The Tea Party is alive and well. Watch us.


28 posted on 10/30/2011 12:51:33 PM PDT by jivin gene (Breakin' up is hard to do)
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To: USS Alaska

But, but, but, our mentor, o’bammy didn’t do a shout-out to us.... ;-)


29 posted on 10/30/2011 12:57:11 PM PDT by jivin gene (Breakin' up is hard to do)
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To: GlockThe Vote

The TEA Party is currently engaged in a ‘Phony War’.


30 posted on 10/31/2011 1:47:59 AM PDT by bigoil (Study Thy Nixon)
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