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A Letter from an Enraged Lady
EMAIL | NA | Patty Meyers, WYO

Posted on 10/30/2011 10:43:06 AM PDT by dvan

I Think She Is Upset!

Alan Simpson, Senator from Wyoming , Co-Chair of Obama's deficit commission, called senior citizens the Greediest Generation as he compared "Social Security" to a Milk Cow with 310 million teats. Here's a response in a letter from PATTY MYERS in Wyoming ... I think she is a little ticked off! She also tells it like it is!

"Hey Alan, let's get a few things straight..

1. As a career politician, you have been on the public dole for FIFTY YEARS.

2. I have been paying Social Security taxes for 48 YEARS (since I was 15 years old. I am now 63).

3 My Social Security payments, and those of millions of other Americans, were safely tucked away in an interest bearing account for decades until you political pukes decided to raid the account and give OUR money to a bunch of zero ambition losers in return for votes, thus bankrupting the system and turning Social Security into a Ponzi scheme that would have made Bernie Madoff proud..

4. Recently, just like Lucy & Charlie Brown, you and your ilk pulled the proverbial football away from millions of American seniors nearing retirement and moved the goalposts for full retirement from age 65 to age 67. NOW, you and your shill commission are proposing to move the goalposts YET AGAIN.

5. I, and millions of other Americans, have been paying into Medicare from Day One, and now you morons propose to change the rules of the game. Why? Because you idiots mismanaged other parts of the economy to such an extent that you need to steal money from Medicare to pay the bills.

6. I, and millions of other Americans, have been paying income taxes our entire lives, and now you propose to increase our taxes yet again. Why? Because you incompetent bastards spent our money so profligately that you just kept on spending even after you ran out of money. Now, you come to the American taxpayers and say you need more to pay off YOUR debt.To add insult to injury, you label us "greedy" for calling "bullshit" on your incompetence. Well, Captain Bullshit, I have a few questions for YOU.

1. How much money have you earned from the American taxpayers during your pathetic 50-year political career?

2. At what age did you retire from your pathetic political career, and how much are you receiving in annual retirement benefits from the American taxpayers?

3. How much do you pay for YOUR government provided health insurance?

4. What cuts in YOUR retirement and healthcare benefits are you proposing in your disgusting deficit reduction proposal, or, as usual, have you exempted yourself and your political cronies?

It is you, Captain Bullshit, and your political co-conspirators called Congress who are the "greedy" ones. It is you and your fellow nutcases who have bankrupted America and stolen the American dream from millions of loyal, patriotic taxpayers. And for what? Votes. That's right, sir. You and yours have bankrupted America for the sole purpose of advancing your pathetic political careers. You know it, we know it, and you know that we know it.

And you can take that to the bank, you miserable son of a bitch.

If you like the way things are in America delete this. If you agree with what a fellow Wyoming citizen Patty Myers says, PASS IT ON!!!


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: alansimpson; captainbullshit; chat; entitlements; politicians; politics; simpson; socialsecurity
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This woman gets pretty explicit in her comments, but I guess if the OWS group is allowed, perhaps a taxpayer should be allowed to speak her mind without restraint. I received this copy as an email.
1 posted on 10/30/2011 10:43:09 AM PDT by dvan
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To: dvan

Gee. An email. I wonder if it’s real?


2 posted on 10/30/2011 10:47:09 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Author of BullionBible.com - Makes You a Precious Metal Expert, Guaranteed.)
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To: dvan

Buy this woman a dozen roses and a nice bottle of wine! She ROCKS!!


3 posted on 10/30/2011 10:47:23 AM PDT by Howie66 (I can see November (2012) from my house.)
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To: dvan

Six degrees of separation (by email). Loved this email and I posted it within another thread.....my mistake.

It should stand alone;)


4 posted on 10/30/2011 10:49:42 AM PDT by sodpoodle (Cain - touching the better angels of our nature. Newt - knowledge is power.)
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To: Beelzebubba

I don’t know if it’s real, but it’s definitely classic. lol


5 posted on 10/30/2011 10:50:04 AM PDT by Nonsense Unlimited
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To: dvan

“My Social Security payments, and those of millions of other Americans, were safely tucked away in an interest bearing account for decades . . .”

Don’t know where the lady got that piece of information - that hasn’t been true for decades, if ever. Part of the problem is that every time anybody tried to point out the Social Security system was a scam, the lame-o democrats started flapping their yaps about some non-existent “lock-box”, and their even more lame-o enablers in the media let them get away with it, and the sheeple bought it.

Now they see they’re going to have to pay a price, and they’re ticked. Unless and until these people start to hold the Democrat party responsible for their lies and prevarications, they’re going to have to learn to deal with economic disasters.


6 posted on 10/30/2011 10:51:02 AM PDT by Stosh
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To: dvan
People are PI$$ED!

Sadly enough in this election cycle a Pi$$ed off public is an advantage for 0bama.

7 posted on 10/30/2011 10:51:06 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: dvan

She sounds a lot like Ann Barnhardt. I got that e-mail too and forwarded it to my list. IMO she was rather mild. Simpson and the rest deserve to feel the tines of pitchforks.


8 posted on 10/30/2011 10:51:57 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Stosh

FWIW Simpson is a Republican.


9 posted on 10/30/2011 10:54:29 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: dvan

I want to send this Lady a box of chocolates ...


10 posted on 10/30/2011 10:55:21 AM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: EGPWS
Sadly enough in this election cycle a Pi$$ed off public is an advantage for 0bama.

I don't think so. I think Baraq is a landslide loser in 2012.

11 posted on 10/30/2011 10:55:36 AM PDT by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: TigersEye
"FWIW Simpson is a Republican."

Same difference!

12 posted on 10/30/2011 10:56:15 AM PDT by LADY J ( Change your thoughts and you change your world.. - Norman Vincent Peale))
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To: Stosh

I agree with your post.

It’s a nice rant, but SS and Mediscare were always going to be in trouble when the boomers retired.

The problem is, that’s NOW. The Democrat chickens have come home to roost.

The Baraqqi Depression certainly makes it doubly worse by forcing retirements and cutting the amount of taxpayers due to massive unemployment.


13 posted on 10/30/2011 10:59:42 AM PDT by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: dvan
My Social Security payments, and those of millions of other Americans, were safely tucked away in an interest bearing account for decades

False.

I, and millions of other Americans, have been paying into Medicare from Day One, and now you morons propose to change the rules of the game. Why?

Because the taxes collected from "you, and millions of other Americans" don't come close to paying for the services you receive and expect to receive in the future.

14 posted on 10/30/2011 11:00:48 AM PDT by Jim Noble (To live peacefully with credit-based consumption and fiat money, men would have to be angels.)
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To: Stosh

It appears that she has a point: Our benevolent government “forced” people into Social Security and Medicare and now point an accusing finger at them (us) because we expected to have some Social “Security” and health coverage. Our nation has been raped by thee nitwits.

I hope this post is not deleted for the lady’s flowery language. It the OWS group can speak freely, a taxpayer should be able to express herself and her outrage.


15 posted on 10/30/2011 11:00:48 AM PDT by dvan (Send Them Home!)
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To: LADY J

In far too many cases.


16 posted on 10/30/2011 11:02:07 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: EGPWS
Sadly enough in this election cycle a Pi$$ed off public is an advantage for 0bama.

Sadly, I agree. The morons living in this country these days aren't smart enough to figure out that people like Barry ARE causing the problems that are pi$$ing them off. It won't be long before the pi$$ed off are out there shouting "four more years" like a bunch of seals barking for a fish at the zoo.

17 posted on 10/30/2011 11:02:07 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Stop Government Greed Now!!!!)
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To: TigersEye

I know Simpson’s a Republican - but just because this woman dumped on him doesn’t mean he’s responsible for the problem.

Lookit, there are plenty of problems with Republicans, especially those of the RINO stripe (Mazzoli-Simpson, anyone?). But at least Republicans have tried to deal with Social Security - even Bush, for all his failings, took a hesitant shot at it.

But those responsible Republicans who did try to work on Social Security soon found themselves demagogued by the donkeys. For crying out loud, Biden’s doing that now. And although there may be some, I’ve never seen a Democrat put his or her political @ss on the line to work on fixing Social Security.

So wail on Simpson or whatever career politicians one wants, but the overwhelming burden of guilt in this case (and most of the others the good lady mentions) is squarely on the shoulders of the Kennedys, Dodds, Clintons, Franks, Pelosis, Reeds, Dinkinss, etc., etc., etc. of the world.


18 posted on 10/30/2011 11:02:07 AM PDT by Stosh
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To: dvan
My Social Security payments, and those of millions of other Americans, were safely tucked away in an interest bearing account for decades until you political pukes decided to raid the account and give OUR money to a bunch of zero ambition losers in return for votes, thus bankrupting the system and turning Social Security into a Ponzi scheme that would have made Bernie Madoff proud..

Obama and team are going to sell health care the same way - everyone puts in from their paychecks - and expects payments to be handled like an insurance company would do ( investing - knowing young people pay more than what they 'get' and take more health care dollars when they're old)

Like Social Security, the gov will pretend it's taking in designated dollars, but they'll spend the funds on the same dem victim groups they always spend money on.... When middle aged citizens of today get older they'll be faced with 'It's an entitlement and must be cut' - their health care dollars gone - spent on 'job training' for folks who will never accept a job - or people 'disabled' because they want to play 'baby in diaper' or whatever.

Dems have favorites - and those victim groups WILL get their money from the middle class... even while the middle class is being lied to about how the money is to be used..

Dem crooks should NOT be allowed to call ANY taxes they create anything OTHER than SLUSH fund taxes.

19 posted on 10/30/2011 11:02:21 AM PDT by GOPJ ( Democrats are the only reason to vote for Republicans.... Will Rogers)
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To: TigersEye

FWIW Simpson is a Republican.

That is what is wrong with the Republican Party, too many staid, RINOs.


20 posted on 10/30/2011 11:02:46 AM PDT by dvan (Send Them Home!)
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To: Stosh

If Simpson is not part of the problem then he would sure help himself by shutting his pie hole. I know I don’t want to hear his smarmy blame-the-people BS.


21 posted on 10/30/2011 11:04:04 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Stosh
My Social Security payments, and those of millions of other Americans, were safely tucked away in an interest bearing account for decades until you political pukes decided to raid the account and give OUR money to a bunch of zero ambition losers in return for votes, thus bankrupting the system and turning Social Security into a Ponzi scheme that would have made Bernie Madoff proud..

It's how it was sold. Took a while to 'get' the reality. It's going to be the same with health care dollars... did you know that, Stosh?

Obama and team are going to sell health care the same way - everyone puts in from their paychecks - and expects payments to be handled like an insurance company would do ( investing - knowing young people pay more than what they 'get' and take more health care dollars when they're old)

Like Social Security, the gov will pretend it's taking in designated dollars, but they'll spend the funds on the same dem victim groups they always spend money on.... When middle aged citizens of today get older they'll be faced with 'It's an entitlement and must be cut' - their health care dollars gone - spent on 'job training' for folks who will never accept a job - or people 'disabled' because they want to play 'baby in diaper' or whatever.

Dems have favorites - and those victim groups WILL get their money from the middle class... even while the middle class is being lied to about how the money is to be used..

Dem crooks should NOT be allowed to call ANY taxes they create anything OTHER than SLUSH fund taxes.

22 posted on 10/30/2011 11:04:27 AM PDT by GOPJ ( Democrats are the only reason to vote for Republicans.... Will Rogers)
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To: dvan

Wow !!!!!!! Now tells us how you really feel.

BTTT !!!!! Copy and paste


23 posted on 10/30/2011 11:06:08 AM PDT by buck61
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To: TigersEye

Didn’t say Simpson wasn’t part of the problem - I did say the donkey party was the major - MAJOR - reason for the problem.

Sorry if it sounds like I’m blaming the lady in question - but if she’d laid out this rant 20 years ago when things were fixable (instead of believing in some silly Social Security lock box fiction) we might be in better shape now.


24 posted on 10/30/2011 11:08:31 AM PDT by Stosh
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To: dvan

The Social Security account was a separate budget item with a huge amount in the black until 1968 when President Johnson raided it. Johnson created what they euphemistically called a unified budget. That let Johnson use current accounts to pay Social Security and then use the huge amassed amount to pay for his Great Society and the war in Viet Nam. (They essentially bought Democratic cotton candy and beer; blowing the money on nothing permanent and solving no problems.) The government wrote IOU’s to Social Security. It was probably one of the greatest robbery schemes in history.

Although there is still probably plenty of road left to kick the can down, more and more people realize that is what’s happening. No politician wants to be the one to stop kicking the can down the road as whoever that is will have to stop spending money like we can just print up more of it….hey, we can print more of it… so they will.


25 posted on 10/30/2011 11:09:12 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: GOPJ
When middle aged citizens of today get older they'll be faced with 'It's an entitlement and must be cut' -

No need to speak of it hypothetically. They are already cutting out areas of coverage and it hasn't even gone into effect yet.

26 posted on 10/30/2011 11:10:33 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Beelzebubba
Gee. An email. I wonder if it’s real?

Well, it's true....and some body did write it ;)

27 posted on 10/30/2011 11:10:35 AM PDT by Las Vegas Ron (Rush Limbaugh = the Beethoven of talk radio)
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To: dvan

“As a career politician, you have been on the public dole for FIFTY YEARS. “

All one has to do is look in the mirror and see that it’s the stupid American voter constantly re-electing these people to office.

I heard recently on Rush or Beck that congressmen are not subject to Wall Street insider-trading restrictions. I find that incredulous if that is true.


28 posted on 10/30/2011 11:11:04 AM PDT by A'elian' nation (Political correctness does not legislate tolerance; it only organizes hatred. Jacques Barzun)
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To: Stosh
- but if she’d laid out this rant 20 years ago when things were fixable (instead of believing in some silly Social Security lock box fiction) we might be in better shape now.

How do you know she didn't? Did you?

29 posted on 10/30/2011 11:12:15 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: TigersEye

Been saying it for decades, to everyone I know.

Don’t know her - I have no idea who she speaks to or what she’s said in the past.


30 posted on 10/30/2011 11:15:16 AM PDT by Stosh
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To: dvan
4. Recently, just like Lucy & Charlie Brown, you and your ilk pulled the proverbial football away from millions of American seniors nearing retirement and moved the goalposts for full retirement from age 65 to age 67. NOW, you and your shill commission are proposing to move the goalposts YET AGAIN.

Real, or more likely apocryphal, the letter is pretty good. Despite that, I approve of moving the "goalposts". Not for those within 15 years of retirement, when they might already be preparing for that transition, but for the rest of us. We should tack another 1, 2, or 3 months per year onto the retirement age until it gets up to 70 or even 72 years. The proportion of our population over 65 is too high to sustain Social Security. It's dishonest to move the goalposts on those nearing the promised age, but it's equally dishonest to leave them where they are for my generation, since our children can't afford to support that large a cohort of healthy retirees.

31 posted on 10/30/2011 11:22:06 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: Jim Noble
Because the taxes collected from "you, and millions of other Americans" don't come close to paying for the services you receive and expect to receive in the future.

Very true, but who's fault is that? I submit it not the fault of the retiree. No retiree could have been expected to sit down thirty years ago and do an actuarial study on social security.

That's the job of the government. I entirely blame the foolish politicians who set this up in the first place.

Of course, assessing blame does not help fix the problem.

32 posted on 10/30/2011 11:22:53 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I carrying this lantern? you ask. I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: Stosh

No, for all you know she has been standing up in town hall meetings for decades and some other Republican voter shushed and criticized her instead of backing her up.


33 posted on 10/30/2011 11:23:16 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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34 posted on 10/30/2011 11:25:22 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: dvan

“It is you, Captain Bullshit,”

...now that’s funny! And oh so appropriate.


35 posted on 10/30/2011 11:29:52 AM PDT by albie
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To: TigersEye

I hope she has, and if so, she has my most sincere gratitude.

But I don’t have any evidence of that. All I have evidence for is that she apparently thought her Social Security funds were safely locked away in a secure fund. And as a poster above has pointed out, the Democrats took care of that fiction more than 40 years ago, when the woman in question was just starting her FICA contributions.

We’re a democracy - we get the government we deserve based on the people we elect. If we keep electing Democrats, we’ll keep getting this crap. If we elect Republicans, we still keep getting much of this crap, but at least we’ll have some Paul Ryans and Jim DeMints and Marco Rubios who are willing to take a shot at fixing things.

That’s my only point. Alan Simpson isn’t the problem. The lady who wrote the letter isn’t the problem. The Democrat Party is the problem. If that lady (if she exists) recognizes that, I have no problem with her.

If she doesn’t, she has a problem.


36 posted on 10/30/2011 11:33:38 AM PDT by Stosh
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To: nascarnation
I don't think so. I think Baraq is a landslide loser in 2012.

Hopefully he's a loser but I dont see a landslide. The moron majorities is states like Ca, NY, MA, MD, WA, OR, IL and others will prevent a landslide. I hope I'm totally wrong about that but as long as Barry is a loser in 2012 then same result.

37 posted on 10/30/2011 11:43:14 AM PDT by tflabo (Restore the Republic)
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To: dvan
My Social Security payments, and those of millions of other Americans, were safely tucked away in an interest bearing account for decades

No ma'am. SS has served as the government slush fund since 1942.

38 posted on 10/30/2011 11:45:03 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (*Philosophy lesson 117-22b: Anyone who demands to be respected is undeserving of it.*)
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To: Stosh
"...safely tucked away in an interest bearing account..."

Some truth here until LBJ took the locks off and gave SS proceeds to the Congress for his "Great Society" which continues to bankrupt our nation with his, other presidents and now Obama's grandiose ideas....just smoke for votes.

39 posted on 10/30/2011 11:46:12 AM PDT by yoe
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To: Stosh

The Democrat party represents its constituents and fights tooth and nail to do so as one would expect in a representative republic. The Republican party does not. So who is the problem?


40 posted on 10/30/2011 11:48:17 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Gen.Blather
The Social Security account was a separate budget item with a huge amount in the black until 1968 when President Johnson raided it.

That is exactly how I remember it. It was either fund the war in Vietnam or fund the Great Society, and congress, if given the chance, would have funded the war and let the Great Society remain unfunded. Congress was not given the choice.

Those who bemoan the fact that seniors are receiving more (in inflated dollars) than they contributed, need only look at the amount contributed AND ADD nominal interest for the forty-five to fifty year duration to see that this argument doesn't hold up.

41 posted on 10/30/2011 11:49:23 AM PDT by Abby4116
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To: Jim Noble

“Because the taxes collected from “you, and millions of other Americans” don’t come close to paying for the services you receive and expect to receive in the future.”

What the lady is saying is, if they had been safely tucked away in an interest bearing account, they would be enough.


42 posted on 10/30/2011 11:49:33 AM PDT by ngat
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To: TigersEye

If you want to be a constituent of the donkey party, it’s easy to do - it requires little or no work (literally).

And it explains much of your end of this exchange as well.


43 posted on 10/30/2011 11:50:57 AM PDT by Stosh
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To: Abby4116

So who is right, Harmless Teddy Bear or you and yoe? Can’t be both.


44 posted on 10/30/2011 11:51:59 AM PDT by ngat
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To: Stosh

Apparently it is more important to you to quibble about the existence of this lady, the trivial points she may have gotten wrong and where the blame actually lies than it is to support her basic message that enough is enough. A perfect example why the GOP is known as the Stupid Party.


45 posted on 10/30/2011 11:53:28 AM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: dvan

She exposed Simpson for his words on greediest generation. All the more we should lambast him as a Republican albeit RINO. We expect this tripe from the lost cause DemoRats but sycophant RINO’s deserve scorn probably more for their traitorous votes against conservative principles. Good for her speaking out.


46 posted on 10/30/2011 11:53:42 AM PDT by tflabo (Restore the Republic)
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To: Stosh
the lame-o democrats started flapping their yaps about some non-existent “lock-box”, and their even more lame-o enablers in the media let them get away with it, and the sheeple bought it.

THe primary beneficiary of SS was/is...Congress. It was their slush fund for buying votes from the beginning. Te Dems and 'Pubs are both just as guilty.

47 posted on 10/30/2011 11:54:37 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (The unemployment problem only can be solved when Obama is unemployed.)
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To: Jim Noble

What if the taxes had been invested with compounding for up to 50 years?


48 posted on 10/30/2011 11:57:23 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: TigersEye

Feel free to take whatever shots you’d like from here on out - post #40 told me all I needed to know.

I’m happy to participate in a dialog that leads to the better airing of the issues; our’s pretty clearly ain’t going to be one of those.


49 posted on 10/30/2011 12:01:18 PM PDT by Stosh
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To: dvan

There are no greater sponges, leech’s, trolls than a career politician, of which Simpson is one of the stars.

It takes a lot of balls for an old man like Simpson who has sucked the Government Teat all his life to call someone else a leech.

He is another like Al Gore who inherited his position from his father and didnt even have to do it on his own, and yet he calls others sponges.

Mr. Simpson KMA.


50 posted on 10/30/2011 12:07:10 PM PDT by Venturer
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