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The Ugliness Started With Bork
New York Times ^ | October 21, 2011 | Joe Nocera

Posted on 10/30/2011 4:35:50 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued

It is, to be sure, completely understandable that the Democrats wanted to keep Bork off the court. Lewis Powell, the great moderate, was stepping down, which would be leaving the court evenly divided between conservatives and liberals. There was tremendous fear that if Bork were confirmed, he would swing the court to the conservatives and important liberal victories would be overturned — starting with Roe v. Wade.

But liberals couldn’t just come out and say that. “If this were carried out as an internal Senate debate,” Ann Lewis, the Democratic activist, would later acknowledge, “we would have deep and thoughtful discussions about the Constitution, and then we would lose.” So, instead, the Democrats sought to portray Bork as “a right-wing loony,” to use a phrase in a memo written by the Advocacy Institute, a liberal lobby group.

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1 posted on 10/30/2011 4:35:52 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued
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To: Impy; fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; GOPsterinMA; little jeremiah; wagglebee; neverdem

One of Bork’s opponents admitted that liberals could never win a serious debate about the Constitution, so that’s why they resorted to character assassination of Robert Bork.


2 posted on 10/30/2011 4:37:38 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens collect welfare checks that Americans won't collect)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Yeah, they were none too kind to Ronald Reagan.


4 posted on 10/30/2011 4:44:36 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: Tzar

Not on the same scale he wasn’t.


5 posted on 10/30/2011 4:44:41 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Illegal aliens collect welfare checks that Americans won't collect)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Well, duhhhh.... And the media was complicit.


6 posted on 10/30/2011 4:44:59 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Clintonfatigued
The Good...

The task of the judge, he once wrote, is “to discern how the framers’ values, defined in the context of the world they knew, apply to the world we know.”

The Bad...

That same Advocacy Institute memo noted that, “Like it or not, Bork falls (perhaps barely) at the borderline of respectability.” It didn’t matter. He had to be portrayed “as an extreme ideological activist.” The ends were used to justify some truly despicable means.

And the Ugly

The next time a liberal asks why Republicans are so intransigent, you might suggest that the answer lies in the mirror.

I think that Ted Kennedy here may have done more damage to America in a single act that anyone ever has.

7 posted on 10/30/2011 4:45:58 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Clintonfatigued

8 posted on 10/30/2011 4:46:46 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Clintonfatigued

An amazingly fair piece from the NYT.


9 posted on 10/30/2011 4:47:30 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew

“I think that Ted Kennedy here may have done more damage to America in a single act that anyone ever has. “

Bingo. Fat Teddy hated conservatives more than the Kenyan lizard even and put party above all else.

We right wingers should punch back twice as hard.


10 posted on 10/30/2011 4:50:00 PM PDT by y6162
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To: Clintonfatigued

It actually started with Clement Haynsworth.


11 posted on 10/30/2011 4:50:14 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: Clintonfatigued
WHAT UGLINESS?!


12 posted on 10/30/2011 4:51:06 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Clintonfatigued

John Tower got a raw deal as well.


13 posted on 10/30/2011 4:55:00 PM PDT by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: Tzar

Wright’s situation was completely different. He violated the rules of ethics and resigned under pressure from Democrats, who controlled the Congress at that time.


14 posted on 10/30/2011 4:55:00 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Tzar
Was Jim Wright really borked?

Wright's own corruption brought him down.

15 posted on 10/30/2011 4:59:50 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: PapaNew
I think that Ted Kennedy here may have done more damage to America in a single act that anyone ever has.

That was his 1965 immigration act which was a deliberate move to turn America into a third world hell hole. The liberals and media were on a roll from the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (which Republicans passed) and took advantage of the propaganda to brand anyone who opposed the vile immigration law as a Bull Connor.

17 posted on 10/30/2011 5:04:24 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Clintonfatigued.
"If this were carried out as an internal Senate debate," Ann Lewis, the Democratic activist, would later acknowledge, "we would have deep and thoughtful discussions about the Constitution, and then we would lose." So, instead, the Democrats sought to portray Bork as "a right-wing loony," to use a phrase in a memo written by the Advocacy Institute, a liberal lobby group.
It started with FDR's attempt to pack the SCOTUS. He accomplished it through attrition -- during his 13 years in office, he appointed more than nine justices.


18 posted on 10/30/2011 5:05:26 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Clintonfatigued

That’s when it got really out of hand, but the way they treated Richard Nixon was pretty bad . . . starting with their holier-than-thou theatrics of Watergate.

Those good moral ethical Democrats of Lyndon Johnson and Mayor Daley.


19 posted on 10/30/2011 5:08:15 PM PDT by A_Former_Democrat (There's nothing more hypocritical than a white liberal calling someone else a "bigot")
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To: Hoodat
John Tower got a raw deal as well.

Agreed, but he had some baggage as well. The saddest part was that his rejection by the Senate eventually led to his untimely death.

20 posted on 10/30/2011 5:09:10 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Clintonfatigued

Hey! The NY Times wins the stopped clock award today.


21 posted on 10/30/2011 5:12:33 PM PDT by Ge0ffrey
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To: y6162

Republicans don’t fight, they instead compromise quietly, while loudly proclaiming that the fight isn’t fair, and that they need bigger majorities. The Republican heart has stopped, in its place beats nothing but an artificial heart that always always always says compromise, and “can’t we do this without all the arguing”?


23 posted on 10/30/2011 5:15:41 PM PDT by runninglips (Republicans = 99 lb weaklings of politics.)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Yep, all that 'ugliness' decried by Obama and the MSM began with the attacks on Ronald Reagan, and continued with Teddy "The Swimmer" Kennedy, and his attacks on Robert Bork. They found their stride with the 'high tech lynching' of Clarence Thomas, and continue today, unabated.

It's interesting that, in every attack on conservative candidates by liberals, when you peel away all the superfluous arguments, it always comes down to abortion.

24 posted on 10/30/2011 5:20:14 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Clintonfatigued
the start of the 2nd civil war will be traced to this act. and now obama has citizens in the streets, with expressed thoughts of a separate citizen army while defunding the real one.

the next year will be a hot one

25 posted on 10/30/2011 5:34:53 PM PDT by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: buccaneer81

I always thought it interesting that the Democrats never attacked him for his vote against the Civil Rights Act. All they cared about was whether he had ever cheated on his wife.


26 posted on 10/30/2011 5:38:21 PM PDT by Hoodat (Because they do not change, Therefore they do not fear God. -Psalm 55:19-)
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To: Hoodat

His drinking was a fairly big issue as well. But you’re right on the Civil Rights Act vote.


27 posted on 10/30/2011 6:37:40 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Hoodat

The confirmation hearings for Bork had Chappaquidick Ted, Plagiarist Joe and graft & pork Howard all sitting in judgement.

That was the first time I realized that the struggle involved good versus evil rather than just a clash of opinions.

Bork clearly stood for integrity, reverence for the constitution and truth. Seeing those three slimes arrayed against such a man of obvious character using sophistry and trying to trap Bork showed me for the first time that the bad guys were for real.

Bork was a towering intellect compared to them, he was beyond qualified to represent the constitution. They had to lie to defeat him.


28 posted on 10/30/2011 6:45:12 PM PDT by UnChained (Cain/Bachmann 2012)
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To: Clintonfatigued

“Mostly, though, the point remains this: The next time a liberal asks why Republicans are so intransigent, you might suggest that the answer lies in the mirror.”

Great close.


29 posted on 10/30/2011 6:48:46 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: buccaneer81
The saddest part was that his rejection by the Senate eventually led to his untimely death.

John Tower died in a plane crash.

30 posted on 10/30/2011 7:05:41 PM PDT by FoxPro
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To: Clintonfatigued

To overthrow a lower court procedure, SCOTUS decisions should be unanimous.

While it might have some unpleasant side effecs, that would de-activate the activist court and de-politicize it.


31 posted on 10/30/2011 7:36:42 PM PDT by Westbrook
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To: buccaneer81

And of course, they ‘forgot’ that Bull Connor was a staunch Democret. My family knew him.


32 posted on 10/30/2011 8:19:48 PM PDT by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: chaosagent

Exactly.


33 posted on 10/30/2011 8:22:27 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: FoxPro
That's right. And had John Tower been Secretary of Defense on April 5, 1991 would he have been on ASA flight #2311? The answer is no. That is what results from a historical point of divergence which occurred on March 9, 1989.
34 posted on 10/30/2011 8:29:24 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: buccaneer81

Glad we got Dick Cheney instead.


35 posted on 10/30/2011 8:33:52 PM PDT by des
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To: des
Glad we got Dick Cheney instead.

An excellent point.

Alternate history and its consequences is a hobby of mine.

36 posted on 10/30/2011 8:59:16 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: SuziQ
when you look back at Nixon, when you realize that he was accused of altering a few minutes of a tape that belonged in the White House, you realize that the evil that is the rat party showed its face then....

imagine...wasn't Nixon accused also of obtaining TWO FBI files?...I mean CLintoon had 700!!!!

and they looked high and low for those White Water files and no one could ever find them and then walaaa....they turn up on the White House dinner table and nobody knows how....

its breaktaking the hypocrisy...its obscene...

37 posted on 10/30/2011 10:24:51 PM PDT by cherry
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To: cherry
its breaktaking the hypocrisy...its obscene...

You must always remember, they are, above all, *true believers* in "The Gospel of Marx", that 'the end always justifies the means'. Once you have totally come to grips with that salient, and sobering fact, you will then know that absolutely *nothing* is 'beyond the pale' for such as they...

the infowarrior

38 posted on 10/31/2011 1:29:48 AM PDT by infowarrior
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