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Politico's Martin Dodges Question On Cain Details
NewsBusters ^ | Mark Finkelstein

Posted on 10/31/2011 5:31:12 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest

Herman Cain has been taking heat for his response to questions about Politico's story on alleged sexual harassment. But today on Morning Joe, it was Politico's own Jonathan Martin, lead author of the story, who was being evasive about the details of the allegations against Cain.

Incredibly, when Willie Geist asked him to describe specifically what Politico is accusing Cain of having done, Martin hemmed, hawed then ultimately said "we're just not going to get into the details of exactly what happened with these women," beyond the sketchy generalities in the Politico story.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: hermancain; jonathanmartin; jonathanmartin4kkk; liars; morningjoe; politico; sexualharassment; williegeist
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1 posted on 10/31/2011 5:31:13 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: netmilsmom; Behind Liberal Lines; Miss Marple; an amused spectator; Diogenesis; MEG33; PGalt; ...

Politico author of ‘sexual harassment’ article on Cain refuses to answer question about what allegations are. Ping to Today show list.


2 posted on 10/31/2011 5:32:39 AM PDT by governsleastgovernsbest (FReepmail or ping me to be put on my ping list for criticism of liberal media)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Herman Cain

born December 13, 1945 in Memphis, TN (Meets the Jus Soli Requirement)

Parents were
Luther Cain Jr., born March 16, 1925 in TN, died March 29, 1982 in Atlanta, GA
Lenora Davis, born July 27, 1925 in GA, died August 20, 2005 in Atlanta, GA

Both parents were US Citizens at the time of his birth (Meets the Jus Sanguinis Requirement)

Herman Cain is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN

”Herman

Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama ISN'T!

Click on the cane, (You're Fired.)

3 posted on 10/31/2011 5:33:13 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I thought Bill Clinton made these kinds of things a non-issue. /s


4 posted on 10/31/2011 5:35:59 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

It looks like time for Herman to file the old libel lawsuit against these bums.


5 posted on 10/31/2011 5:36:12 AM PDT by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Just look at him. His facial expressions look like those of a liar and a smear merchant.


6 posted on 10/31/2011 5:36:58 AM PDT by dforest
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To: DarthVader

People like this have no shame.

Despoil a man’s reputation with BS, and then get on a morning talk show with nothing.


7 posted on 10/31/2011 5:37:47 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

He looks like a good candidate for a Romney White House Press Secretary. I wonder if he was already promised the job? Na, knowing Romney the job was only implied and the little weasel jumped on board the Weasel Express without reading the fine print.

8 posted on 10/31/2011 5:38:14 AM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
In the article, the ONLY ACTUASL allegation is that Cain "invited one of the women up to his hotel suite."

But for WHAT REASON?

To give her a memo, or for privacy to discuss business..?

9 posted on 10/31/2011 5:38:29 AM PDT by ken5050 (Cain/Gingrich 2012!!! because sharing a couch with Pelosi is NOT the same as sharing a bed with her)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Just take their word for it, okay? Politico and Martin would never, ever-ever, say anything that wasn't true....mmmmkay? /s
10 posted on 10/31/2011 5:38:37 AM PDT by liberalh8ter
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To: indylindy

Sarah is right, He’s a PUNK


11 posted on 10/31/2011 5:38:39 AM PDT by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Martin doesn’t HAVE any “details”, but would be happy for you to assume the worst.
He’s in the smear and headline business.
Facts and details aren’t necessary.


12 posted on 10/31/2011 5:39:17 AM PDT by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
"we're just not going to get into the details of exactly what happened with these women..."

That's the way you talk when you're acting as a spokeman for someone, a third party.

13 posted on 10/31/2011 5:39:29 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: G Larry

I think we’ve seen this crap before with another prominent conservative black man...

The left and their ideological “father” really aren’t very creative, are they?


14 posted on 10/31/2011 5:42:01 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

True, False or Hit Piece .... it will play out and Cain will
have to address the issue personally, not his spokesperson.
Cain will probably be given that opportunity today.

Read more: http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2011/10/31/cain-camp-allegations-sexual-harassment-smear-campaign#ixzz1cMLpoB8k

.....Cain himself will have a chance to respond to the allegations today, as he is set to
appear live on Fox News at 11:15 a.m. The presidential candidate is also scheduled to
deliver remarks at the American Enterprise Institute and at the National Press Club in
Washington, DC on Monday.....


15 posted on 10/31/2011 5:42:51 AM PDT by deport
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Especially see paragraph 3 below:

MAY 15, 2011

Herman Cain sounds off on race, a debate win, and the need to simplify government
By:Byron York | 05/15/11 7:35 PM
http://washingtonexaminer.com/politics/2011/05/herman-cain-sounds-race-debate-win-and-need-simplify-government

[snip] .... “Here’s my theory,” said Cain, leaning forward in his chair. “Let’s talk about the current field of Republican candidates. They can’t go after Obama as hard as I can because they’re not black. I think that, either subconsciously or deliberately, they are being coached to not say it a certain way, that you’re going to be labeled a racist and the liberal media is going to try to bring you down, because they still want to protect their precious Obama.”

Cain believes his audiences are a different story. “The voters, they hear my message first, not ‘He could take it to Obama,’ because they are more concerned about stopping Obama than taking it to Obama,” he explained. “This is what I’m hearing and this is what I’m feeling. And the race card is going to be short-lived if Herman Cain gets the nomination.”

“They’re going to come after me more viciously than they would a white candidate,” Cain responded. “You’re right. Clarence Thomas. And so, to use Clarence Thomas as an example, I’m ready for the same high-tech lynching that he went through — for the good of this country.” Cain smiled broadly. “I’m ready for the same high-tech lynching.” .........” [snip]


16 posted on 10/31/2011 5:43:43 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (Obamageddon, Barackalypse Now! Bam is "Debt Man Walking" in 2012 - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
A man compliments your hair style or general appearance.... THAT constitutes harassment for feminist types
17 posted on 10/31/2011 5:44:41 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion." Edmund Burke)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; ...
RE :”Herman Cain has been taking heat for his response to questions about Politico's story on alleged sexual harassment. But today on Morning Joe, it was Politico's own Jonathan Martin, lead author of the story, who was being evasive about the details of the allegations against Cain.
Incredibly, when Willie Geist asked him to describe specifically what Politico is accusing Cain of having done, Martin hemmed, hawed then ultimately said “we're just not going to get into the details of exactly what happened with these women,” beyond the sketchy generalities in the Politico story.

I saw it at breakfast.

Politico's Jonathan Martin declared Cain guilty for refusing to answer his yes/no question :” Have you ever been accused ...?”

Scarbouro who has been campaigning for Romney on his show for months declared the Cain candidacy dead (for the non-answer) and Romney the obvious winner, just like he told us it would be...

The CSPAN NOW callers flooding the lines with calls like “Politico wouldn't make this up” and “I know this is true it happens all the time”

The liberal Clinton defenders claiming :”This is a private matter none of our business” are no-where to be found.

I don't immediately see how this hurts Cain, except with those RINOs ("only Romney can beat Obama' gang) already in the Romney tank.

18 posted on 10/31/2011 5:45:15 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Cain :"My parents didn't raise me to beg the government for other peoples money")
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I do not think there is anyone paying attention to Herman Cain that did not know this was a possibility. Watching Ted Kennedy and other “moral police” go after Clarence Thomas was disgusting. The claims made by employees can be real or bogus. Either way there is a payout. One famous company had a severly impaired alcoholic female working in a highly paid sensitive position. There was no chance of rehab or intervention and she was screwing up big time.
They had no choice but to terminate.......but wait..she was also a lesbian. You guessed it. A deal was worked out for an enormous severence package and a letter of recommendation for her
next position ( which she had already aquired). You cannot just release someone these days. It is a lawyer game with back room deals struck betweeen parties. The hint of Mr Cain being a bad boy is damaging. Unless the reporter can bring forth proof, he is nothing but a man doing a hatchet job for another political figure. Who?


19 posted on 10/31/2011 5:45:41 AM PDT by oldironsides
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To: reefdiver

And she ought to know! bttt


20 posted on 10/31/2011 5:45:50 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (Obamageddon, Barackalypse Now! Bam is "Debt Man Walking" in 2012 - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

Sarah Palin Calls Cain Hit-Piece Article JournoList Martin a "Punk" on Beck Show

21 posted on 10/31/2011 5:45:59 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: deport

No matter what Cain says. The damage - which was expected, is done. No matter what, he says now, I believe that Cain is toast. I would not be surprised if this hit came from Republican operatives.


22 posted on 10/31/2011 5:46:33 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Pan_Yan; Diogenesis
He looks like a good candidate for a Romney White House Press Secretary.

Whenever Team Romney had rumors they wanted to start about other candidates, Jonathan Martin has been their go-to guy to get those rumors in writing in front of a national audience. ... FReeper Diogenesis is spot on.

23 posted on 10/31/2011 5:48:45 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: ASA Vet
Both parents were US Citizens at the time of his birth (Meets the Jus Sanguinis Requirement)

Irrelevant as to whether he is a natural born citizen.

24 posted on 10/31/2011 5:49:13 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (Free Depends for OWS Protesters)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
The MSM backed off asking any follow-up questions regarding the rape of this woman after Clinton refused to answer after question #1 (even though the woman had a face and a name)

Now, the bandwagon is filled with eager presstitutes who demand replies to charges made by unknown complainants alleging unknown acts.

Yeah, it's more situation normal for so-called journalists.

25 posted on 10/31/2011 5:50:10 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (A half-truth is a complete lie)
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To: oldironsides

Donald Trump made the same sort of points on Fox & Friends this morning at 7:30 AM. The was GOOD on the subject and said how he thought Cain should handle this accusation.


26 posted on 10/31/2011 5:51:03 AM PDT by Matchett-PI (Obamageddon, Barackalypse Now! Bam is "Debt Man Walking" in 2012 - Rush Limbaugh)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Hey, they need something. It may be the best they got. It didn't work on Clarence Thomas, but that's no reason not to try it.

We need to make these Democrats start living by their own rules. We can do that if we start raising a stink when they take cheap shots like this at Herman Cain.

The Democrats are adept at using the "Race Card" for their benefit. This is one time it should be used to burn them instead of benefiting them.

27 posted on 10/31/2011 5:51:06 AM PDT by Kenton (Barack Obama - Lowering American Expectations Since 2008)
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To: reefdiver

Sarah would whup his butt too.


28 posted on 10/31/2011 5:53:35 AM PDT by OKSooner ("Get a brain, morans!!")
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To: KeyLargo

What damage? Just a vague accusation. No accuser stepping forward. No details about what was done.

Sexual harassment these days? “Nice dress.”

This is playing into racist scare tactics and I agree with you it was likely a fellow Republican that generated the non story.

Anyone can accuse anyone of doing anything. Buddy of mine had some ugly woman at work in the company copy room which is a small space. He briefly brushed against her grabbing a copy. She filed a complaint.

People set themselves up legally. Tougher to fire someone if they files a complaint. Then they have a retaliatory discharge suit.


29 posted on 10/31/2011 5:53:40 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Incredibly, when Willie Geist asked him to describe specifically what Politico is accusing Cain of having done, Martin hemmed, hawed then ultimately said "we're just not going to get into the details of exactly what happened with these women," beyond the sketchy generalities in the Politico story.

The whole thing is fishy. Cain needs to come up with a more forthright statement than 'the liberal media is out to lynch me' line. If the allegations are false then say so unequivocally. Force Politico to put up or shut up.

30 posted on 10/31/2011 5:54:03 AM PDT by SoJoCo
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

If they can get hit hard on this one Politico can be taken out for this election cycle.


31 posted on 10/31/2011 5:55:21 AM PDT by AU72
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Who was that Cain spokesman talking to Geraldo last night?

He would not deny any settlement payments were ever made.

Heard that this morning on Fox & Friends.

32 posted on 10/31/2011 5:56:33 AM PDT by TexasCajun (Fast & Furious , Solyndra & Light Squared would be enough to impeach any White President !!)
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To: ASA Vet

Jus Sanguinis only applies when a baby is born to U.S. citizens in a foreign country. Then they are considered to be natural born. Such was the case with John McCain. Also would have applied to George Romney who was born in Mexico to U.S. citizens. Irrelevant when born on American soil.


33 posted on 10/31/2011 5:57:09 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (Free Depends for OWS Protesters)
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To: AU72

Yp..When Cain’s the nominee, I wonder how much access Politico will ahve to the campaign?


34 posted on 10/31/2011 5:59:18 AM PDT by ken5050 (Cain/Gingrich 2012!!! because sharing a couch with Pelosi is NOT the same as sharing a bed with her)
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To: deport
"True, False or Hit Piece .... it will play out and Cain will have to address the issue personally, not his spokesperson. Cain will probably be given that opportunity today."

And isn't a freeking coincidence that this garbage comes out when he goes to Washington DC!

35 posted on 10/31/2011 5:59:47 AM PDT by celmak
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To: ken5050

If the Cain camp is smart, none.


36 posted on 10/31/2011 6:01:52 AM PDT by sport
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To: TigerClaws

Just whistling in the dark as far as I am concerned.

The media will ensure that Cain is not a threat to their rino candidate - Romney.

The majority of the public are concerned with Dancing with the stars and sports.

When it comes time to vote all that the sheeple will remember and know is - “Oh yeah, that Cain guy was involved in some sort of sex scandal.”

You can say that it is a double standard all that you want, and man do I agree, but that has been the Democrat play book for years.


37 posted on 10/31/2011 6:02:44 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: sport

And the GOP did a debate hosted by MSNBC and Politico..when will we ever learn?


38 posted on 10/31/2011 6:04:15 AM PDT by ken5050 (Cain/Gingrich 2012!!! because sharing a couch with Pelosi is NOT the same as sharing a bed with her)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

The MSM doesn’t need details, they just need headlines to repeat until election day as they report the scandal-plagued Republican against scandal-free Obama.

lol


39 posted on 10/31/2011 6:04:23 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

I’m kind of shooting from the hip here, bear with me. But the allegations I heard was that, as I paraphrase....”Cain didn’t use profane or obscene language but what he verbalized made the woman feel uncomfortable.”....as I read somewhere, supposedly he asked a female to join him in his suite.

Second, “Cain did not give an offensive gesture but how he was using his hands made the woman uncomfortable”....again....very vague. Somewhere I read he supposedly pointed to her boobs or some such.

Lookit, this has all the earmarks of a totally bogus story. The big proof would come with some kind of definitive verification of a payoff to these women and this info, if it exists and it is so cool that the details can’t be revealed so it seems, can’t be revealed as it was part of the settlement.

The media’s going to have to come up with better than this, shame on them.


40 posted on 10/31/2011 6:05:59 AM PDT by Fishtalk
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To: deport

you are right...if his story holds, and hopefully it will, he will come out of this stronger. IF the story is something like, “two disgruntled, terminated employees made wild allegations which were rapidly settled so as to avoid the cost of litigation” then I think this will go away quickly.


41 posted on 10/31/2011 6:09:02 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

To give Rush credit: if this were a democrat, it would be a resume enhancer.


42 posted on 10/31/2011 6:10:58 AM PDT by HotKat
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To: KeyLargo

He’s done? Because of a vague accusation? Wow.


43 posted on 10/31/2011 6:11:55 AM PDT by ilgipper (Everything you get from the government was taken from someone else)
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To: KeyLargo
No matter what Cain says. The damage - which was expected, is done. No matter what, he says now, I believe that Cain is toast. I would not be surprised if this hit came from Republican operatives.

No matter what the truth is, Cain is done. WOW.

And can we surmise that until this story by the Politico you were 100% behind Herman?

You were so insistent that "NO MATTER WHAT CAIN SAYS" that you repeated it twice, that it will have no influence on you.

Bogart is rolling over in his grave because of your screen name.

44 posted on 10/31/2011 6:13:09 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the Terrorists Savages)
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To: DarthVader

Usual smear on a popular conservative/

Wonder if Anita Hill is behind this one too ?


45 posted on 10/31/2011 6:23:41 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks
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To: governsleastgovernsbest

This is how the Demonrats discuss issues of political interest. They lie. They change the subject. They make personal attacks. They did all three at once here.

Cain must be a real threat to their criminal empire.


46 posted on 10/31/2011 6:24:14 AM PDT by RoadTest (For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus.)
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To: KeyLargo

Please let me know your candidate so I know not to vote for them.


47 posted on 10/31/2011 6:24:50 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (1 million in stimulus dollars paid for this tagline!)
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To: sickoflibs
I don't immediately see how this hurts Cain,

it cant, *IF* Mr Cain plays the cards to his advantage...flip this bag of flaming sh!t back at em, and he scores big ...

48 posted on 10/31/2011 6:26:42 AM PDT by Gilbo_3 (Gov is not reason; not eloquent; its force.Like fire,a dangerous servant & master. George Washington)
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To: ASA Vet

Thank goodness for AdBlockPlus.


49 posted on 10/31/2011 6:28:03 AM PDT by upchuck (Rerun: Think you know hardship? Wait till the dollar is no longer the world's reserve currency.)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Obama has absolutely nothing positive to run on. He has no positive accomplishments.

All he can do is trash any and all opponents. The LSM is in full trash mode, proving that the smallest book in history is the Compendium of Journalistic Ethics.

50 posted on 10/31/2011 6:28:35 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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