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Libertarian Party Tells Ron Paul to Come On Over
ABC News ^ | October 30, 2011 | Jason M. Volack

Posted on 10/31/2011 11:16:01 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia

Rep. Ron Paul may not win the Republican nomination for president, but the prospect of him running as a third party candidate in the general election is not off the table, he says.

Paul, long a favorite of the Libertarian Party, is drawing enthusiastic support from its leaders, who are openly pushing him to consider a third party run for the White House.

“Absolutely, that would be fabulous,” said Jim Lesczynski, media relations director for the Manhattan Libertarian Party.

Lesczynski says his party agrees with Paul on most of the major issues, calling him an “ideal candidate.” He added that Paul will do better than he did four years ago, but ultimately thinks he will fail in his bid to gain the Republican nomination.

The Libertarian party would be a perfect ideological fit for Paul, who advocates limited government intervention and hands-off social policy. More than 30 members from the Manhattan chapter of the party actively campaign for Paul.

If Paul did decide to seek the Libertarian party nomination, it wouldn’t be the first time. In 1988 he gained the party’s nod after publicly criticizing the Reagan administration for large budget deficits.

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: libertarian; massiveego; ronpaul

1 posted on 10/31/2011 11:16:03 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

They apparently have forgiven the little fundraising embezzlement scandal from 1988.


2 posted on 10/31/2011 11:17:03 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Paul will pull in enough votes to guarantee Zero and the wookie four more years to finish destroying the country.


3 posted on 10/31/2011 11:18:00 AM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
Snip....On Election Day scores of Lawyers, and Accountants raided the Ron Paul for President Campaign Headquarters and closed down the campaign operation. Campaign Manager Nadia Hayes was arrested by the Nassau Bay, TX Police Department and later convicted for embezzlement of roughly $140,000.

American Libertarian magazine November 1988 described the situation: "�a bizarre twist tough-talking campaign manager Nadia Hayes was sacked the day before the election. And the much awaited last minute campaign media blitz largely failed to materialize�. Paul campaign chair Burt Blumert and Paul campaign ghostwriter and direct mail fundraiser Lew Rockwell showed up... unannounced and unexpected (at HQ). Staff were told that they should leave... locksmiths turned up late in the day to change the locks on the office doors."

4 posted on 10/31/2011 11:19:51 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Libertarian is latin for dumbass. They aren’t going to win, but they may very well pull enough votes for zero to win. Things like this are why I consider Libertarians to be just as much an enemy as the liberals.


5 posted on 10/31/2011 11:21:30 AM PDT by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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To: mnehring

Lew Rockwell? Ugh . . .


6 posted on 10/31/2011 11:21:49 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Be careful of believing something just because you want it to be true.)
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To: beethovenfan

Libertarian Party Tells Ron Paul to Come On Over .......they must want four more years of Obama.


7 posted on 10/31/2011 11:23:37 AM PDT by tankrlm
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Libertarians - too chicken to admit they’re Democrats.


8 posted on 10/31/2011 11:23:48 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: beethovenfan

Paul will pull in enough votes to guarantee Zero and the wookie four more years to finish destroying the country.

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Quite the opposite. Paul would pull votes AWAY from Obama. Look at Paul supporters and Liberterarians. They’re not gonna vote for a conservative anyway, so ....

RUN PAUL RUN!!


9 posted on 10/31/2011 11:26:23 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: tankrlm

Libertarian Party Tells Ron Paul to Come On Over .......they must want four more years of Obama.

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Ron Paul or Barack Obama?

Barack Obama or Ron Paul?

Choices, choices....

But I’m serious. I hope Paul does return to his Libertarian roots. That will pull votes away from the Kenyan.


10 posted on 10/31/2011 11:30:16 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Quite the opposite. Paul would pull votes AWAY from Obama. Look at Paul supporters and Liberterarians. They’re not gonna vote for a conservative anyway, so ....

This is absolutely correct. Ron Paul will not be endorsing the eventual Republican nominee and paulbots are not going to vote for the actual GOP nominee no matter who it is. The ones that understand what Paul is talking about are going to vote Libertarian and the college meatheads, potheads and peaceniks will vote for Obama again. Paul is not a conservative and should not be in the Republican party in the 1st place.

11 posted on 10/31/2011 11:47:57 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

I’d sooner support Ron Paul than Slick Willard.


12 posted on 10/31/2011 11:54:08 AM PDT by Cato in PA
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To: blueunicorn6
“Libertarians - too chicken to admit they’re Democrats.”

It's impossible to tell the difference between many of them from the Larouchers. They are cut from the same cloth.

13 posted on 10/31/2011 11:57:02 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: beethovenfan

It is amusing to see that many of the many folks who have loudly complained since 2007 that “Ron Paul is not a Republican” and “Ron Paul should run as a Libertarian,” are now whining at the prospect that he may take their advice!


14 posted on 10/31/2011 12:10:21 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Cato in PA

I’m with you. Had it with the old party and the last nomination they tried cramming down our throats. McCain is just as liberal as Biden. Romney is too.


15 posted on 10/31/2011 12:10:25 PM PDT by VicVega (Geaux LSU, Saints and Rangers!!)
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To: Longbow1969
Paul is not a conservative and should not be in the Republican party in the 1st place

So then are we to conclude that you have no problem if he runs for third party? Based on this statement, it seems so.

16 posted on 10/31/2011 12:11:35 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Cato in PA

Dittos. I’ll vote Cain if he gets the nod. Or Gingrich. But if its McPerry or McRomney...forget it.


17 posted on 10/31/2011 12:17:39 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Cato in PA

Dittos. I’ll vote Cain if he gets the nod. Or Gingrich. But if its McPerry or McRomney...forget it.


18 posted on 10/31/2011 12:17:47 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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19 posted on 10/31/2011 12:19:55 PM PDT by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are here! What will you do?)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Absolutely

Ron Paul is a neo-liberal. Most of his support comes from the left.

Ron Paul Drones - a liberal dressed as a Conservative, trying to tell Conservatives that it is Conservative to be liberal.

20 posted on 10/31/2011 12:33:54 PM PDT by lormand (A Government who robs Peter to pay Paul, will always have the support of Paul)
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To: bamahead

So, you’ll vote Cain, or Gingrich, or Obozo? I don’t much care for Romney, and Perry has been a disaster thus far. But, if either of them win the nomination they will get my vote. I would much rather see the Presidency in either of their hands than in the hands of the ONE, who I know will work hard for four more years to destroy this country.


21 posted on 10/31/2011 12:36:06 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

They can have him.


22 posted on 10/31/2011 12:45:05 PM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Captain Kirk
"It is amusing to see that many of the many folks who have loudly complained since 2007 that “Ron Paul is not a Republican” and “Ron Paul should run as a Libertarian,” are now whining at the prospect that he may take their advice!"

You are not reading the rest of us...we have always voiced our objection to Lake Jackson's crazy uncle clinging to the GOP label just so he can caucus in the House and get campaign support from the party.

To Ron Paul - GTFO of the GOP, run as anything you want...it will not effect Conservative support for GOP candidates.

Ron Paul attracts liberals, not Conservatives.

23 posted on 10/31/2011 12:58:24 PM PDT by lormand (A Government who robs Peter to pay Paul, will always have the support of Paul)
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To: Captain Kirk
So then are we to conclude that you have no problem if he runs for third party? Based on this statement, it seems so.

None, I already expect that. I know most of his supporters are not going to vote for the actual Republican nominee anyway - and Paul isn't likely to endorse the nominee either. Lets put it this way, when Paul fails to win GOP nomination, I'd guess by a 3 to 1 margin that his supporters will vote libertarian or for Obama anyway. If Paul goes 3rd party, my hunch is he will take more votes from Obama than he will the eventual Republican nominee no matter who it is.

Now that doesn't mean Paul isn't sleazy for doing this. It's pretty shady that he is using the Republican party label this way when he has no intention of actually supporting the nominee. When Paul leaves to run 3rd party this time, I hope he will never, ever come back to the GOP. He is not a conservative and does not belong in the Republican party - and pretty much everyone knows it.

24 posted on 10/31/2011 1:06:50 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: SoldierDad

Really?? That just gives the GOP permission to nominate their liberal R candidates. I will vote for The Constitution. No Romney! He is O lite... So u just pull the lever for whatever big gov R they nominate??? Wow! I will not give in to them. Might as well take another O term. With a conservative congress he would be lame... And the light of his failed policies will shine brighter. Romney is Obama.


25 posted on 10/31/2011 1:08:11 PM PDT by momincombatboots (Look out Left Coast, we are coming and we have Bibles and Guns! LOL)
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To: Longbow1969
Ron Paul hates Israel and he is an anti-semite. Ron is not a conservative. We are better off without him when his hate shows his true colors. Ron knows Obama hates Israel, so Ron wants him reelected.
26 posted on 10/31/2011 1:17:48 PM PDT by Armaggedon
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To: Longbow1969
Ron Paul hates Israel and he is an anti-semite. Ron is not a conservative. We are better off without him when his hate shows his true colors. Ron knows Obama hates Israel, so Ron wants him reelected.
27 posted on 10/31/2011 1:17:48 PM PDT by Armaggedon
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To: Longbow1969
Ron Paul hates Israel and he is an anti-semite. Ron is not a conservative. We are better off without him when his hate shows his true colors. Ron knows Obama hates Israel, so Ron wants him reelected.
28 posted on 10/31/2011 1:18:03 PM PDT by Armaggedon
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To: tankrlm
Libertarian Party Tells Ron Paul to Come On Over .......they must want four more years of Obama.

They'd certainly prefer that to a conservative in the White House.

Roon Paul and his followers have always been more aligned with the Dems than the Republicans.

I wouldn't put it past Ron Paul to put his ego above the best interests of the USA.

29 posted on 10/31/2011 1:26:29 PM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

If R-U-N Paul elects to run under the Libertarian banner for the 2012 Presidential Election, then he needs to completely remove himself from the GOP and never return.


30 posted on 10/31/2011 1:57:31 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: momincombatboots

Do you have a reading disability? I was just wondering as I did not state that I would vote in the Primary for either of those two candidates. But, if the choice comes to Obozo versus Romney or Perry, then I will vote NOT OBOZO!


31 posted on 10/31/2011 2:00:01 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: SoldierDad

Thanks for the personal attack! So democratic! Lol if I misread hour post, I apologize. We don learns readin in the South. We’s just not like you all smart un’s up yonder.


32 posted on 10/31/2011 2:03:55 PM PDT by momincombatboots (Look out Left Coast, we are coming and we have Bibles and Guns! LOL)
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To: momincombatboots

First, that was NOT a personal attack. It was a question. Second, your sarcasm was dripping off of your reply to my post to someone else, and needed addressing. Third, there was nothing in my post your originally responded to that in any way suggested that I was voting for Romney or Perry in the Primary. Nor, was there anything in my original post which suggested what candidate I was contemplating voting for, period. A simple task of taking a little time to read the words was all that would have been required to discern the above. The sarcasm could have been left at home.


33 posted on 10/31/2011 2:22:39 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: SoldierDad

I would never pull the lever for Obozo. But if we all keep swilling down the RINO pills the GOP force feeds us despite REAL conservative candidates running, then they will continue to force feed them to us until the country is in the toilet. Basically - where we are right now.

If it’s McPerry/McRomney, I’ll go third party, or I won’t vote. Simple as that...


34 posted on 10/31/2011 4:07:45 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: Responsibility2nd
Ron Paul or Barack Obama?
Barack Obama or Ron Paul?


Very little difference, if any. They both blame America for every problem in the world. Both want to blame someone else when they can not accomplish what they want. They both support the pro-gay agenda. Both want to destroy our military, making America more prone to attack. Both feel Iran should be allowed to have nuclear weapons. Both think that if we appease our enemies enough they will leave us alone. About the only difference I can see is that even Obama felt the world is a better place with the elimination of OBL. Cut and Run thinks he should have been allowed to continue his rein of terror.
35 posted on 10/31/2011 5:55:39 PM PDT by John D
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To: John D

And even Obama sees the sense in fighting the WOD and keeping dope illegal.

Ron Paul (with his buddy Barney Frank) want to legalize pot, coke, meth, hookers, porn, and so on.


36 posted on 10/31/2011 6:01:03 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS! This means liberals AND libertarians (same thing) NO LIBS!)
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To: mnehring

“They apparently have forgiven the little fundraising embezzlement scandal from 1988”

Well, they do a ton of dope every day. Most of the LP can’t recall what they’ve done five minutes ago.


37 posted on 10/31/2011 10:30:19 PM PDT by Absolutely Nobama (Chairman Obama And Ron Paul Are Sure Signs The Republic Is In Serious Trouble. God Help Us All.)
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To: bamahead

As I stated to many here on FR in 2008, a turd party vote, or no vote at all, is a vote FOR Obozo. McCain was a lousy candidate. But, I have NO doubt he would be leaps and bounds better than the Muslim loving, American hating idiot occupying the WH today. Romney isn’t the conservative candidate that conservatives would like to have. But, based upon all that I’ve read from people on FR regarding this election, the PERFECT candidate some are crowing for DOES NOT EXIST. While you are all waiting for that perfect candidate, your country is being destroyed by Obozo and the liberals. I’m hoping to be able to have a conservative candidate win the primary election. I have not yet chosen a candidate to vote for, but at this time the most conservative candidates I see are Cain and Gingrich. The one I vote for still has a ways to go to earn my vote. If, however, the electorate chooses a less than sterling candidate (which is a real possibility), then I will vote for that candidate over Obozo, period. Voting turd party or not voting is placing the future of this country back into the hands of a man we know wants to take this country down. Knowing this to be true, I am at a loss to explain your position of supporting Obozo over someone else simply because they are not your PERFECT candidate.


38 posted on 11/01/2011 10:41:22 AM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: SoldierDad

I fully understand your position...but you need to also realize that Karl Rove loves folks like you. He knows you’ll hold your nose and swallow whatever RINO pill force you to settle on. Until we start voting our principles en-masse...the big tenters will retain control and we’ll never in our lifetimes see a leader that will actually make a dent in the abysmal mess that the behemoth federal leviathan has become. Do whatever makes you feel good. I’ve decided I’m doing what I think is right this.time.


39 posted on 11/01/2011 11:27:24 AM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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To: bamahead
. . . but you need to also realize that Karl Rove loves folks like you. He knows you’ll hold your nose and swallow whatever RINO pill force you to settle on.

The problem with the above statement is that before the "Establishment" can force a RINO candidate down OUR throats, that RINO candidate must win the Primary. If a RINO wins the primary that is the fault of the electorate, not Karl Rove.

40 posted on 11/01/2011 2:28:07 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: bamahead

Again, doing what you “think” is right by voting turd party or not at all will result in one outcome. So, while you may be able to smugly state, “It’s not my fault”, the rest of the country goes to hell at an excellerated pace. It is my view that it is much easier to turn a small boat than a large ship.


41 posted on 11/01/2011 2:32:36 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: SoldierDad
...that RINO candidate must win the Primary.

Yep...and the Paul cultists will help that along by wasting their votes on that moonbat.

42 posted on 11/01/2011 2:37:27 PM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: Longbow1969

I don’t think it is sleazy but if you do fine. Do you also think that Palin’s third party hints were sleazy? Just wondering.


43 posted on 11/02/2011 7:48:41 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Captain Kirk
I don’t think it is sleazy but if you do fine. Do you also think that Palin’s third party hints were sleazy? Just wondering.

First, I am not in the cult of Palin, so yeah, if she made 3rd party threats I'd call her sleazy as well. As it happens though, she made crystal clear when she made her announcement declining to run on Mark Levin's show that she was under no circumstances going to run 3rd party.

The reason Paul is a sleaze is because he is just using the Republican label for his own ends. He is a libertarian, NOT a conservative. He is using the Republican label ONLY because he couldn't win an election to dog catcher with the Libertarian label that actually better suits him.

44 posted on 11/02/2011 7:56:07 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969
The reason Paul is a sleaze is because he is just using the Republican label for his own ends. He is a libertarian, NOT a conservative. He is using the Republican label ONLY because he couldn't win an election to dog catcher with the Libertarian label that actually better suits him.

Hannity and Rush pretty much say the same thing. The constantly say that the just regard the GOP as a vehicle to advance an ideology not as an end in itself. The Libertarian label suits him? Apparently the voters in his district who elected him overwhelming in each election disagree with you. Aren't they the best judge?

45 posted on 11/02/2011 9:00:17 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: rightwingintelligentsia
A political party cannot be all things to all people. It must represent certain fundamental beliefs which must not be compromised to political expediency, or simply to swell its numbers.

I do not believe I have proposed anything that is contrary to what has been considered Republican principle. It is at the same time the very basis of conservatism. It is time to reassert that principle and raise it to full view. And if there are those who cannot subscribe to these principles, then let them go their way.

http://reagan2020.us/speeches/Let_Them_Go_Their_Way.asp

46 posted on 11/02/2011 9:08:12 AM PDT by McGruff (Hold the House, take the Senate.)
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To: Captain Kirk
Hannity and Rush pretty much say the same thing.

You and I both know Hannity and Rush will endorse and support the eventual GOP nominee - no matter who it is. Paul will not. Hannity and Rush may have their favorites, but at the end of the day they will back the Republican - Paul has already demonstrated in the past that he will not do the same.

Apparently the voters in his district who elected him overwhelming in each election disagree with you. Aren't they the best judge?

Yes, we know Paul uses the GOP label in his district to get elected. If he left the GOP and ran as a libertarian he would face a real GOP candidate with the party infrastructure behind him/her and there is little doubt Paul would lose. This is precisely my point - Paul is only using the Republican party label for his own ends.

47 posted on 11/02/2011 9:17:20 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Longbow1969

His own ends? If you are arguing that Paul is less dedicated than other politicians to a set of ideas, and more interested in than lining his own pocket than these other politicians, you don’t have a very good case. BTW, if Romney is the nominee which with Cain’s bungling in the last few days, there will be many, many non-libertarian conservatives who will not only refuse to vote for the nominee but will be open to a third party. The same would have happened in 2008, IMHO, had not McCain bought them off with Palin.


48 posted on 11/02/2011 12:15:26 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Longbow1969

I meant to say that it is more likely that Romney will be the nominee because of Cain’s bungling.


49 posted on 11/02/2011 2:25:47 PM PDT by Captain Kirk
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