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To: WilliamHouston
In what sense did Poland win the Second World War? Both countries lost the war.

Wow, way to come up with something irrelevant. Poland may not have "won" WWII. But that is not evidence that the USSR and Nazi Germany were just. Nazi Germany murdered many Polish, including a huge number of priests. Russia came through and did the same thing. (Karol Wojyla was saved by a mere accident) Now does the fact that Poland was in a rather unfortunate position after WWII somehow make those two facts somehow benevolent? That is a bizarre accident.

Furthermore, it's major logical flaw to somehow conclude that any stupid actions FDR may have undertaken, somehow vindicate Stalin or Hitler.

27 posted on 11/01/2011 1:23:00 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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In the world of nickcarraway ...

(1) It is irrelevant that millions of Poles lost their lives and that two countries, not one, ravaged Poland, and that Poland lost its independence for fifty years, and that the British war guarantee that was the occasion of the whole conflict was worthless, and that FDR and Churchill acknowledged the demise of Poland at the Yalta conference.

(2) Buchanan never argues anywhere in the book that Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union were “just.”

(3) Buchanan argues that it was the British war guarantee, which happened to be worthless, that caused the war.

(4) As Buchanan points out, it was the British war guarantee that inspired Hitler’s alliance with Stalin.

(5) A rather unfortunate position! Quite an understatement, don’t you think?

Once again, the worst case scenario unfolded in Poland - the death of millions, the annihilation of its cities, the murder of its elite, the loss of independence for half a century - because of the foolishness of its own leaders and the foolishness of the British government.

(6) No one is trying to “vindicate” Hitler or Stalin except in your own imagination. Winston Churchill was a warmongering fool who destroyed the British Empire. That’s the argument.

Poland would have been better off if it had never taken that stupid war guarantee and if it had ceded Danzig to Germany. How many millions of Poles would be alive today if Poland’s leaders had chartered a wiser course? How many Germans? How many Europeans?

33 posted on 11/01/2011 1:40:46 AM PDT by WilliamHouston
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