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Home prices heading for triple-dip
money.cnn.com ^ | October 31, 2011: 11:56 AM ET | Les Christie

Posted on 11/01/2011 5:24:19 AM PDT by TSgt

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- The besieged housing market has even further to fall before home prices really hit rock bottom.

According to Fiserv (FISV), a financial analytics company, home values are expected to fall another 3.6% by next June, pushing them to a new low of 35% below the peak reached in early 2006 and marking a triple dip in prices.

Several factors will be working against the housing market in the upcoming months, including an increase in foreclosure activity and sustained high unemployment, explained David Stiff, Fiserv's chief economist.

(Excerpt) Read more at money.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News
KEYWORDS: homeprices; housing; housingmarket; market; recession; tripledip

1 posted on 11/01/2011 5:24:22 AM PDT by TSgt
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To: TSgt
Well of course prices are still dropping... a million mortgages are underwater and another million homes are in foreclosure. With demand through the floor and supply through the roof, what did we think was going to happen to prices?
2 posted on 11/01/2011 5:40:12 AM PDT by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: Oberon

How can this possibly be? I thought Obama and the Demorats repealed the Law of Supply and Demand as part of the “recovery plan”. I thought.....


3 posted on 11/01/2011 5:51:06 AM PDT by CaptainAmiigaf (NY TIMES: "We print the news as it fits our views")
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To: TSgt
Wonder when the tax people will figure out their home tax value price lists are phony?
4 posted on 11/01/2011 5:53:57 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen. --> AmeriCain)
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To: Oberon

Unless the FedGov monetizes the debt, I believe home prices could drop 80% or more from their peak. I remember when this first started, people like me were predicting a 20% drop and called doom and gloomers.

I also remember selling Sony CD players at Pacific Stereo back around 1981 for $1,300. We salespeople thought that was a ripoff and there was no reason why they could not make a profit at $300.

Even $300 seems, of course, ridiculously high today, as will today’s house prices tomorrow.

...unless they monetize the debt (hyperinflation). And I don’t think they have a choice, unless they want “hyper” Occupy events next spring followed by all out Civil War.
It is interesting how paradigms shift


5 posted on 11/01/2011 6:00:24 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: cuban leaf

I just know that I consider myself darned lucky that we bought a house priced at about a third of what the bank would have lent us, giving us a mortgage payment with escrow that amounted to about 15% of our gross income per month. Twelve years into our 30-year mortgage we have essentially zero equity thanks to the market, but at least we’re not significantly underwater.


6 posted on 11/01/2011 6:04:52 AM PDT by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: TSgt

Typical CNN and others rhetorical BS...triple-dip? LMAO.

I heard the business guys on FOX last night suggest that the is no “triple-dip”......its is one huge freefall that never hit bottom from the initial housing DIP.


7 posted on 11/01/2011 6:24:50 AM PDT by cranked
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To: TSgt
Hope 'n Change!
8 posted on 11/01/2011 6:25:06 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: cranked

If you read the article though, I think it’s pretty factual:

“a mild rally that was artificially spurred as banks slowed the processing of foreclosures following the robo-signing scandal”


9 posted on 11/01/2011 6:37:21 AM PDT by nascarnation (DEFEAT BARAQ 2012 DEPORT BARAQ 2013)
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To: TSgt; ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; calcowgirl; Gilbo_3; NFHale; ...
I still remember a few freepers in 2009 saying that the government cannot just allow prices to fall, most of us pointed out that they would fall eventually regardless of government action. That was on a Glen Beck show post with the theme about Democrats claiming the Fed could re-inflate the bubble.

Can Obama successfully run on trying new things in executive orders each week and proposing more give-aways as everything gets worse.

10 posted on 11/01/2011 7:06:50 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Cain :"My parents didn't raise me to beg the government for other peoples money")
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To: sickoflibs

obama’s health care industry takeover has a nasty surprise for the housing market. A 4% tax on the sale price of an existing home. To go toward funding nationalized medicine.

Due to kick in after the 2012 election.


11 posted on 11/01/2011 7:43:32 AM PDT by Texas resident (Hunkered Down)
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To: Texas resident
obama’s health care industry takeover has a nasty surprise for the housing market. A 4% tax on the sale price of an existing home. To go toward funding nationalized medicine. Due to kick in after the 2012 election.

I believe it is a 3.8% tax on unearned income above $250,000 you are referring to.

12 posted on 11/01/2011 7:48:40 AM PDT by NewinTexsas
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To: TSgt

How about going after the banks for inflating home prices?

Someone needs to simply figure out what people CAN afford and go from there.

If a person on AVERAGE makes X dollars per month then the mortgage payment should be X times .25. That can be used to figure out a house price.

These developments with HOA’s are what nobody wants right now.

Perhaps the HOA developments need to be dismantled.


13 posted on 11/01/2011 7:58:19 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: NewinTexsas

My understanding is that the tax applies to the 250 figure but in the case of a sale of a house, the sale counts as income and is added to the adjusted gross income. So this would catch folks who sell a house less than 250.
Then the 3.8% applies.
Might not be absolutely accurate here, but saw this in the WSJ when details of obamacare started leaking out.


14 posted on 11/01/2011 8:03:48 AM PDT by Texas resident (Hunkered Down)
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To: Oberon

Same here. We bought what we could afford and owe what our home is currently worth. It’s better than being underwater.

On the upside I just reached a deal today on an investment log cabin in the Smokey Mountains that sold for $155K in 2006. I’m getting it for $75K...

It has $14K of documented annual rental income. I plan on putting every red cent back into the principal and paying it off as soon as I can so I can buy another one!


15 posted on 11/01/2011 8:05:04 AM PDT by TSgt (Legal Disclaimer: View my profile at your own risk)
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To: Texas resident
Might not be absolutely accurate here

I agree with that.

16 posted on 11/01/2011 8:15:37 AM PDT by NewinTexsas
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To: TSgt
When all this is over anyone with 10 ounces of gold will be able to buy a house.
17 posted on 11/01/2011 8:39:50 AM PDT by 2001convSVT (Going Galt as fast as I can.)
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To: TSgt

First of all, where in the Smokies? Second, how did you find it? Third, anymore in that area?


18 posted on 11/01/2011 9:16:36 AM PDT by Terry Mross (Where is the OPPOSITION party? I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: sickoflibs

The Kenyan’s goon squad must be running out of ideas at this point.


19 posted on 11/01/2011 9:58:44 AM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned.)
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