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Governor Jindal Stirring Unrest among Louisiana Conservatives
American Thinker ^ | 11/01/2011 | Pat Austin

Posted on 11/01/2011 6:47:27 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Even though Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal just won re-election in a landslide victory, there is a growing rumbling of discontent statewide among conservatives. While Jindal is being touted nationwide as the next great hope for the Republican Party, there are folks in Louisiana who would beg to differ. How can that be with such an overwhelming mandate? In last week's election, Jindal carried all 64 of Louisiana's parishes. What could be wrong?

Conservative discontent with Jindal centers around several issues including his bungled handling of a legislative pay raise in 2008; his sham ethics reform; and now his alignment with 37-year Democrat (and recent Republican) John Alario, whom Jindal has endorsed for President of the State Senate, to name a few.

When Bobby Jindal ran for his first term in 2007, he issued this promise:

Prohibit Legislators from giving themselves pay raises that take effect before the subsequent elections.

Any increase in salary approved by the Legislature should take effect after the next election so the public can decide who deserves that compensation.

That promise quickly crumbled in 2008, when the Louisiana legislature voted itself a huge pay raise from $16,800 a year to $37,500. The Public Affairs Research Council of Louisiana called the pay raise "absurd":

The $34,000 proposed pay raise for legislators is absurd. The increase would bring Louisiana legislators' compensation to $70,000, which is 198 percent of the average pay for part-time legislatures across the nation and 102 percent of the average pay for full-time legislatures - including per diem amounts and expense allowances.

Not bad money for a part-time job. The Louisiana legislature meets for only about three months a year. To make matters worse, the bill would grant automatic pay raises in the future without legislative or voter approval.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: bobbyjindal; louisiana
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1 posted on 11/01/2011 6:47:28 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Jindal may run for senate sometime, but he knows he is not even close to being natural born.
2 posted on 11/01/2011 6:56:18 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Odd article...first the timing..a week after the election..Mostly cheap shots..like about his wife's foundation..the same argument can be applied to EVERY public official's charitable cause..

Not sure what to make about Jindal supporting Alario. There are no quotes/comments from Jindal in the piece...so his side isn't really given.

3 posted on 11/01/2011 6:56:49 AM PDT by ken5050 (Cain/Gingrich 2012!!! because sharing a couch with Pelosi is NOT the same as sharing a bed with her)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Louisiana Ethics Reform” is an oxymoron


4 posted on 11/01/2011 6:57:02 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: org.whodat

RE: Jindal may run for senate sometime, but he knows he is not even close to being natural born.

Is there a constitutional requirement for a Senator to be natural born?


5 posted on 11/01/2011 7:00:54 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

LA has one party rule like most other Southern states. I guess some people just can’t be happy the Democrats were run out of New Orleans.

If Jindal was half as bad as his critics say, he would not have carried every parish in the state.


6 posted on 11/01/2011 7:02:03 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: SeekAndFind
There is no requirement...and yes, there has been talk about Jindal for senate..he's term limited, so the timing is right for him to challenege Landrieu in 2014.

However, I think he might get tapped as HHS secretary..and he'd do a superb job..but not sure if he wants to leave LA right now..

7 posted on 11/01/2011 7:03:07 AM PDT by ken5050 (Cain/Gingrich 2012!!! because sharing a couch with Pelosi is NOT the same as sharing a bed with her)
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To: SeekAndFind

You have to be natural born to be President and Vice President.

Every other elective and appointive federal office is open to all American citizens, native born and naturalized, alike.


8 posted on 11/01/2011 7:04:05 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sounds to this poster, like one of the potential VP candidates, just hired Karl Rove.


9 posted on 11/01/2011 7:04:41 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (America First)
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To: SeekAndFind

Miss read my statement, I said he may run for senate, he does not meet the requirements for higher elected office. I believe he has already said that himself.


10 posted on 11/01/2011 7:05:01 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Not being from Louisiana, I don’t know all the ins and outs of the state laws. So, if the Legislature votes themselves a pay raise, what would it take for Jindal to stop it? I guess I’m trying to figure out why conservatives would be blaming him for that situation.


11 posted on 11/01/2011 7:05:01 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: org.whodat; All

Did he go though a naturalization ceremony??


12 posted on 11/01/2011 7:06:20 AM PDT by KevinDavis (Obama is siding with the American Nazi Party with the OWS Protestors..)
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To: goldstategop; All

He was natural born.. So yes he can run for President..


13 posted on 11/01/2011 7:08:14 AM PDT by KevinDavis (Birthers are ignorant about the Constitution.)
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To: org.whodat

The natural born rule no longer applies. Jindal can run for prez if he wants to because obama was seated.


14 posted on 11/01/2011 7:08:30 AM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: KevinDavis
Probably, his mother had been in the country about six months when he was born, she and her husband where here on student visas. His father is a citizen of Egypt the last I heard. History would say he and his mother applied. The libs had not started the anchor baby crap back then.
15 posted on 11/01/2011 7:10:51 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: Kirkwood

Man, obummers mother was a citizen. And yes the law still applies, but you need to contest before the vote, not after.


16 posted on 11/01/2011 7:13:10 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: goldstategop

First of all, the demmicrats are still running New Orleans. Jindal is a lieing SOS. He is a RINO and is only interested in keeping his name in the papers to inflate his ego.
He carried all the parishes because the other 9 people were unknowns and didn’t have the money to compete. All the major rags supported him. Check the DEADPELICAN.com for more info on Mr. Jindal.


17 posted on 11/01/2011 7:14:21 AM PDT by nanook (Thomas Jefferson had it right.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Another reason why...

Legislatures (state and federal) could be part-time jobs with 1/10th pay, NO retirement, NO insurance, NO benefits and NO perks. These POS politicians can get a full time job doing something productive not progressive.

Their part-time job could be spent DEFUNDING/DISMANTLING socialist collectives, foreign and domestic (our government in particular).

--That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

Alter it.

18 posted on 11/01/2011 7:19:40 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: org.whodat

He was born in Baton Rouge to Indian immigrant parents - Baton Rouge not part of the US?


19 posted on 11/01/2011 7:20:34 AM PDT by heartwood
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To: KevinDavis

RE: Did he go though a naturalization ceremony??

He did not have to, he was BORN IN THE USA.


20 posted on 11/01/2011 7:20:56 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: org.whodat

RE: His father is a citizen of Egypt the last I heard. History would say he and his mother applied. The libs had not started the anchor baby crap back then.

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Bobby’s parents are Amar and Raj Jindal, who came to the United States as immigrants from Punjab, India, 6 months before he was born.

Where did you get the information that his father is a citizen of Egypt?


21 posted on 11/01/2011 7:23:04 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: heartwood

Students from india.


22 posted on 11/01/2011 7:23:20 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This reads like a bitch and moan session to me. Essentially, here is what happened:

Jindal was going to be politically expedient about pay raises, but got blowback from the public and did the right thing.

He is working with a life-long political animal in his state who switched to the Republican party.

And his reform legislation was very good but not perfect, dammit.

Knowing ALL of this about Bobby Jindal, 66% of the voters re-elected him.

Repeatedly the author refers to conservative discontent, but the three cited sources of critcism are two “non-partisan” groups and the NEW YORK TIMES. The bitching about Bobby’s wife having an educational foundation was particularly galling.


23 posted on 11/01/2011 7:25:29 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: org.whodat

Probably you are full of it.

That said, I am not exactly wild about Jindal, who at this point appears to be mostly about Jindal.


24 posted on 11/01/2011 7:26:42 AM PDT by Romulus (The Traditional Latin Mass is the real Youth Mass)
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To: SeekAndFind

They got devorced and the last I read he move to egypt or one of the other countries around there. You can look it up and they both came here on student visas.


25 posted on 11/01/2011 7:28:02 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: Romulus

http://cdrkerchner.wordpress.com/2011/05/22/native-born-citizen-yes-but-gov-bobby-jindal-is-not-a-natural-born-citizen/


26 posted on 11/01/2011 7:35:42 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: org.whodat

Ah. You are construing natural-born as born to citizens, rather than merely born in the country.


27 posted on 11/01/2011 7:37:58 AM PDT by heartwood
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To: goldstategop
LA has one party rule like most other Southern states. I guess some people just can’t be happy the Democrats were run out of New Orleans.

Both houses of the LA legislature are Republican-majority. Both houses are 4 year terms, and every seat is up for re-election next Tuesday, along with state legislative elections in NJ, VA, and MS.

28 posted on 11/01/2011 7:46:23 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Civilization is unnatural. It is a whim of circumstance. Barbarism must always ultimately triumph.)
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To: org.whodat

RE: You can look it up and they both came here on student visas.

I know that his parents came here on student visas and Bobby was born here. As for his father moving to Egypt, you should be the one providing the source (reliable please), not me.

The onus on providing the reliable link is on the one giving the information.


29 posted on 11/01/2011 7:46:53 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: PapaBear3625

The election for the LA legislature (all-party primary) was already held the same day as the statewide races and the GOP won. There will be runoffs held shortly for the candidates that didn’t reach 50%.


30 posted on 11/01/2011 7:52:39 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Rick Perry has more red flags than a May Day Parade)
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To: heartwood
...."Baton Rouge not part of the US?"......

Well, if you ask a Texan, you may be surprised at the answer. Anyone that sucks the head of a mud bug is doubtfully American. Then there's the "Who Dat" language barrier.

31 posted on 11/01/2011 7:53:37 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: SeekAndFind
Not really, because the where abouts of his father is not important, and ask yourself one question. Why did juan mccain, on advice of his legal counsel, get a sense of the senate resolution passed about his own status.
32 posted on 11/01/2011 7:58:00 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: org.whodat

This is just a coincidence. Our republican operatives are just going overboard to destroy any nominee for president or vice president. What is wrong with these people?

Jindal is the only good thing to happen for Rick Perry. For all the stumbles of Rick, Jindal does the damage work in sunday shows.

Jindal will be a great vice president candidate and he will destroy joe biden. Also, Jindal will bring a nice executive experience, congressional experience to the ticket


33 posted on 11/01/2011 8:02:12 AM PDT by Ranjit
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To: goldstategop

The political climate of Louisiana was established almost single-handedly by Huey Long. It is a true tribute to Gov. Jindal’s political skills that he can be as conservative as he is and yet continue to survive in that lake.


34 posted on 11/01/2011 8:02:33 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind

Amar Jindal worked for Exxon in Baton Rouge for sometime and now works for USR Corp with locations in Baton Rouge, New Orleans and around the world. Don’t know about a divorce but rumors don’t need verification just throw them out.


35 posted on 11/01/2011 8:02:38 AM PDT by deport
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To: ken5050

Jindal is a RINO, a type-specimen Big-Government Republican. I’ve known the man for fifteen years.

He talks the talk as well as any politician and makes you believe he’s the second coming of Ronald Reagan, but he ain’t no movement conservative.

I live here and have followed and engaged in Louisiana politics all of my adult life and I know what I’m talking about.


36 posted on 11/01/2011 8:05:14 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: abb

How about posting the numbers of deficit reduction in the state? How about posting the number of business that as come to Louisiana because of Jindal? How about his leadership skill during the gulf spill?


37 posted on 11/01/2011 8:10:15 AM PDT by Ranjit
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To: abb

My good FRiend, I have no reason to doubt you, but this flies in the face of how he has been depicted, even in the conservative media.Reading all the stories just before the election, it sounded loike he’s done a GREAT job in LA, that’s why he didn’t even have a seriosu dem opponent..


38 posted on 11/01/2011 8:11:00 AM PDT by ken5050 (Cain/Gingrich 2012!!! because sharing a couch with Pelosi is NOT the same as sharing a bed with her)
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To: heartwood
>> Baton Rouge not part of the US? <<

It is now. But, you see, it was under French rule when Vattel wrote his book about natural-born citizens. Therefore, because Vattel trumps the 14th Amendment and all such, anybody born in Baton Rouge cannot be an NBC.

And if you don't believe me, just go ask Mario Apuzzo, Esq.

39 posted on 11/01/2011 8:11:38 AM PDT by Hawthorn
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To: Ranjit
How many people live in the united states////????? Out of that number there is many more than one are two qualified to be VP. Heck, algore lowered the bar a whole lot. Ryan would make a good VP, if he would stop carrying water for Cantor and boner. Actually there are thousands of them, when you branch out into CEOs instead of career politicians.
40 posted on 11/01/2011 8:17:51 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: MEGoody

He promised to veto the pay raise then signed it right after the election. He has promised gold standard ethics laws then delivered this toothless fools gold mess we have today. Now he dumps Edward Wilson Edwards’ crony, John Alario on us a couple of days after the election. For more information go to thedeadpelican.com or moongriffon.com.

Folks, Bobby “ain’t all that”. While I knew he was going to win big time, I didn’t vote for him this go around and will not do so again.


41 posted on 11/01/2011 8:20:30 AM PDT by DryProng
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To: ken5050; Ranjit

I’ve seen it all, after all I live here and I am a working reporter that publishes a newsblog every single day. Many of the political operatives here are acquaintances of mine. There is very little that concerns politics in the state of Louisiana that I don’t see or read.

The national media doesn’t know squat about what happens here, they only know what they’re told by paid spin experts.

Jindal is a vast improvement over Blanco and even Mike Foster, who was another alleged conservative, but was no such thing. That said, I did vote for Jindal ten days ago.

Jindal has done some good things, but mainly because we conservatives here called his hand and MADE him do it.

George Bush did some good things while he was President, but does anyone here on this thread try to claim Bush was a real conservative?

Here’s a couple of threads WITH DOCUMENTATION on some the things that happened early in Jindal’s term.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2034993/posts
EDITORIAL: Still time to veto (JindalWatch® Alert)
Times Picayune ^ | June 23, 2008 | Staff

Posted on Monday, June 23, 2008 4:18:05 AM by abb

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2186063/posts
Louisiana’s growing state payroll strains budget (JindalWatch® Alert)
Times Picayune ^ | February 15, 2009 | Robert Travis Scott

Posted on Sunday, February 15, 2009 6:49:36 AM by abb


42 posted on 11/01/2011 8:23:59 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: DryProng

One of my favorite towns in all the state...


43 posted on 11/01/2011 8:25:26 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: org.whodat
Why did juan mccain, on advice of his legal counsel, get a sense of the senate resolution passed about his own status.

Because McCain was NOT BORN IN THE USA he was born in Panama. He is a citizen because his parents were both U.S. citizens and since he was born outside the U.S. he wanted his eligibility confirmed.

You are comparing apples and oranges.

44 posted on 11/01/2011 8:26:57 AM PDT by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to preserve it.)
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To: DryProng

RE: , I didn’t vote for him this go around and will not do so again.

I gather you sat this most recent election out? Otherwise, which alternative did you vote for?


45 posted on 11/01/2011 8:28:06 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (u)
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To: DryProng
He promised to veto the pay raise then signed it right after the election.

So does Louisiana have such a thing as a "veto proof majority" and if so, did the pay raise pass by a sufficient number to be veto proof?

The other question to ask is, were there other things in this bill that Jindal would have been hard pressed to veto (i.e. some issue near and dear to the hearts of Louisiana voters)?

I'm just trying to understand, not arguing.

46 posted on 11/01/2011 8:29:44 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: commish
A distinction without a difference. I was not comparing anything I was asking a question. The answer was, he did it because he knew there was legal doubt about his status.
47 posted on 11/01/2011 8:34:22 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: MEGoody; ken5050; Ranjit; DryProng

Here’s another thread that I put up back during the Louisiana Legislative pay raise debate. Lots of alleged FReepers called me a lot of names back then.

I took it real personal.

http://209.157.64.201/focus/f-news/2037677/posts?q=1&;page=1#1

Recall fever spreads to Jindal (JindalWatch® Alert)
Times Picayune ^ | June 28, 2008 | Robert Travis Scott

Posted on Saturday, June 28, 2008 2:34:27 AM by abb


48 posted on 11/01/2011 8:36:10 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: SeekAndFind

No, there was a Libertarian who didn’t have snowball’s chance in August. But as it turned out, I might as well have stayed home. Voters didn’t agreed with many of my choices.

One other point should be made: There was an extremely low turn-out for this election so that high percentage win was like LSU playing a junior high team. Everyone was frightened off by Bobby’s money.

Look, I am not angry with Bobby, it is just this: he is a much better talker than a doer as the national folks like Rush and Shaun will find out one day.


49 posted on 11/01/2011 8:43:08 AM PDT by DryProng
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To: Romulus
That said, I am not exactly wild about Jindal, who at this point appears to be mostly about Jindal.

Do you know of some way in which Gov. Jindal is neglecting his duties to the people of Louisiana?

50 posted on 11/01/2011 8:43:47 AM PDT by rogue yam
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