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Report: Cain voted for Clinton
Washington Times ^ | 11/01/2011 | Seth McLaughlin

Posted on 11/01/2011 8:55:31 PM PDT by txroadkill

Edited on 11/01/2011 8:56:59 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

A new report claims that Republican presidential contender Herman Cain voted for Democrat Bill Clinton for president in his first run, as well as for two Nebraska Democratic candidates in the past.

In a story on the Nebraska Watchdog website, Joe Jordan writes that Mr. Cain supported Mr.Clinton during his 1992 presidential bid, 17 months before he squared off with Mr. Clinton over his push to overhaul the national health care system.


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TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Arkansas; US: Georgia; US: Nebraska
KEYWORDS: arkansas; cain; cainwuzaclintonista; clinton; clintonvotercain; democrat; exdemocratcain; georgia; hermancain; illraisetaxes; maybealittleblow; mymuslimfaith; nebraska; rinocain; wilinskied
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To: txhurl

I know what you mean, I started out liking Cain.


51 posted on 11/01/2011 9:28:17 PM PDT by smoothsailing (FUMR-FUBO)
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To: txroadkill

I missed that. So I guess maybe this is an admission that he supported Clinton?

In the hillarycare video where Cain complains to Clinton about how the law would hurt restaurants, he does start by thanking Bill Clinton for tackling the national problem of health care. I have called that just another example of being polite before getting your message across. I’m guessing hillarycare wasn’t the only thing that would have turned Cain away from Clinton though.


52 posted on 11/01/2011 9:28:17 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: JoenTX

Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptrTa8C_Pl4

I assume you know that exchange between Cain and Clinton is credited as the beginning of the end of Hillarycare.


53 posted on 11/01/2011 9:29:41 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Cain 2012 - http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: txhurl

It is harder to feel bad for him, after his disgraceful attack on Perry when he called him “insensitive to blacks” over the rock story. Perry is being much more graceful on Cain’s current problems.

But that’s because Perry has been focused on one thing — sinking Romney. Cain on the other hand has an announced strategy of tearing down all the other conservatives, and leaving Romney alone. Because that will make all the supporters of the guys he attacks support Cain instead — it’s the “last man on the sinking ship” strategy.


54 posted on 11/01/2011 9:32:36 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Tex-Con-Man

Well IF Rainbow Push Coalition could support Cain...guess Cain could support Clinton.


55 posted on 11/01/2011 9:32:53 PM PDT by katiedidit1
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To: justsaynomore

Well, Cain’s affinity for Romney and aversion to Perry is well-documented here. If you really want proof of that, stick around.


56 posted on 11/01/2011 9:32:53 PM PDT by txhurl (Did you want to talk or fish? Or feed the fish?)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Cain said the same thing in an interview not that long ago that it was the mid 90s that he became a Republican (Kemp had a positive influence on him)

This is not news, he’s mentioned it in at least one interview that I know of.


57 posted on 11/01/2011 9:34:07 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Cain 2012 - http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: shield

I find this so funny after all the flack we’ve had about Perry and Gore [twenty three years ago].
I’m heading to bed. - Also, hope you saw this;

JimRob - I like Perry just fine.....

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2800991/posts?page=409#409


58 posted on 11/01/2011 9:34:17 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: txroadkill
So what? My mother voted for Clinton too, and she became so incensed with his policies in the first six months of the first term that she switched to being a rabid conservative to the right of even me. My guess is that he learned from that.

Remember, too, that Bill was the first black president.

59 posted on 11/01/2011 9:34:25 PM PDT by ConservativeMind ("Humane" = "Don't pen up pets or eat meat, but allow infanticide, abortion, and euthanasia.")
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To: CSI007

Clinton is as much of a nut job as Gore and it was Clinton that chose Gore to run as his VP!!!


60 posted on 11/01/2011 9:34:36 PM PDT by katiedidit1
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To: savagesusie

Well, I voted for Mondale, you know the guy who stated at the Democrat convention that he would raise taxes? I didn’t actually see him make that statement when he made it but I say a clip of him saying that.

My excuse was I was young, voting for the first time in my life and because I’m black, I was supposed to vote for Democrats because Republicans hated black people.

What happened? I became a Christian, learned what the DemocRATS stood for and soon after, registered as a Republican and voted that way ever since.


61 posted on 11/01/2011 9:34:36 PM PDT by Sister_T ("Calling ILLEGAL aliens "immigrants" is like calling shoplifters 'customers'!"-UCFRoadWarrior ><>)
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To: txroadkill

Rut row.


62 posted on 11/01/2011 9:34:49 PM PDT by BAW (I'm a 53 percenter.)
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To: txhurl

I am well versed in the whole “Cain loves Romney” BS from the Perrybots, thanks.


63 posted on 11/01/2011 9:35:52 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Cain 2012 - http://teamcain.hermancain.com)
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To: Kirkwood

He supported Gore in a primary. So his support did absolutely NOTHING to help a democrat out against a republican in an election. And his “support” appears to have been mostly lending his name as a low-level democratic politician; like those “honorary chair” positions candidates like to tout to help them get in-state donations.

I doubt Cain was instrumental in getting Clinton elected over Bush. Perot and his followers are mostly to blame for that one. And Bush. I don’t think either really matters — just glad to have Cain on our side now. But by any standard, supporting a democrat in a presidential election in the 1990s is “worse” than supporting a democrat in a presidential primary in the 1980s.

Also note that, for those who said Perry was way too old for a “come to your senses” argument, Cain was a lot older when he became a republican than Perry was.


64 posted on 11/01/2011 9:37:14 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: txroadkill
Greg Marmalard: "But Herman Cain's already on probation, sir."

Dean Vernon Wormer: "He is? Well, as of this moment, Herman Cain is on DOUBLE SECRET PROBATION!"

65 posted on 11/01/2011 9:37:58 PM PDT by labette ( Humble student of Thinkology)
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To: parksstp

The article says that campaign manager Gordon is the source of the information. And that Cain turned Republican by 1996.

That was the year he started lobbying for the National Restaurant Association.


66 posted on 11/01/2011 9:39:36 PM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed: Will use. Cut spending, cut spending, cut spending, now,now,now!)
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To: justsaynomore

It’s not what issues he discusses. It’s his “I could support Romney, but I could never support Perry” comments. And his “Romney would be a good choice for President”, and his “I’d love to be Romney’s VP”, and his campaign’s announcement that they were going to target conservatives and leave Romney alone, so they were the last conservatives standing and all the conservatives would have to support him or else.

Of course, I’m not sure Cain has really “attacked” Romney on anything other than Romneycare.


67 posted on 11/01/2011 9:40:24 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: mnehring

Thank you for that clarification. I’d like to see this from the campaign, not 3rd-hand. On the other hand, I don’t think it matters (other than it should shut up the people attacking Perry, where I also don’t think it matters).


68 posted on 11/01/2011 9:41:43 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: South40

I’m beginning to think that Cain’s problem is his staff.

Did Gordon really admit that Cain has only been a Republican for 15 years?


69 posted on 11/01/2011 9:41:54 PM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed: Will use. Cut spending, cut spending, cut spending, now,now,now!)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

McGovern
Carter
Mondale
Dukakis
Clinton

Candidates I voted for, until I saw the light in 1994 and became a conservative.


70 posted on 11/01/2011 9:42:37 PM PDT by Deo volente (God willing, America will survive this Obamination.)
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To: txroadkill

I voted for Clinton too. Not going to judge the man for that, there was a time when the Democratic Party was not communist.


71 posted on 11/01/2011 9:44:58 PM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: CSI007

1989 vs sometimes between 1993 and 1996. And Cain is 66, Perry is 61. Looks like Perry, for all his faults, is a faster learner than Cain.


72 posted on 11/01/2011 9:45:32 PM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed: Will use. Cut spending, cut spending, cut spending, now,now,now!)
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To: txroadkill

Holy Crap! We hve no one to vote for, Nobody at all. DOOM.


73 posted on 11/01/2011 9:45:43 PM PDT by Nonstatist
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To: smoothsailing

Does this mean that Cain voted against Ronald Reagan in the ‘80’s?


74 posted on 11/01/2011 9:47:12 PM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed: Will use. Cut spending, cut spending, cut spending, now,now,now!)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

But that’s because Perry has been focused on one thing — sinking Romney.


Actually Perry has been much more focused on sinking zero. I
imagine he was a bit baffled to start taking hits from fellow conservatives who NEVER TOOK, OR TAKE, A SERIOUS SHOT at zero.

I’m talking kill wounds - that’s how you do it in real hunting if you really have a target in your sights. Perry’s having help from Real Governors of Real States containing Real People who want to erase Obama, and he’s taking flack from his own ‘side’.


75 posted on 11/01/2011 9:47:26 PM PDT by txhurl (Did you want to talk or fish? Or feed the fish?)
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To: justsaynomore

It is now, although oddly I was alive in 1994, and I don’t remember that being the reason for hillarycare going down in flames. It was the Harry & Loise commercial, produced by Health Insurance industry.

I know Wikipedia isn’t the best source in the world for anything political, but in a reasonable discussion about Hillarycare and it’s demise, it says this: “Opposition to the Clinton plan was initiated by William Kristol and his policy group Project for the Republican Future, which is widely credited with orchestrating the plan’s ultimate defeat through a series of now legendary “policy memos” faxed to Republican leaders.[17] “

It does mention Cain’s question as an important turning point as well: “One key turning point against the Clinton plan was a televised town hall meeting in April 1994. During the event, President Clinton was challenged by businessman Herman Cain on the resulting effects on small businesses.”

And it also mentions Harry and Louise: “The effort also included extensive advertising criticizing the plan, including the famous Harry and Louise ad paid for by the Health Insurance Association of America, which depicted a middle-class couple despairing over the plan’s complex, bureaucratic nature.”

I’ve taken the claims crediting Cain with ending Hillarycare as typical campaign rhetoric.


76 posted on 11/01/2011 9:49:14 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: txroadkill

Interesting information on the Journalist(sic)/blogger that the Washington Times cites.
http://objectiveconservative.blogspot.com/2011/05/nebraska-watch-dog-joe-jordans-yellow.html

What is interesting in this if you read near the bottom was in the race that is cited, he is accused of making up quotes by Bruning’s (Senate Candidate) finance chairman David Sokol... Hmmm...

..and just one more interesting point, look at what other site Jordan writes for.
http://www.libdemvoice.org/author/joe-jordan


77 posted on 11/01/2011 9:51:38 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: txroadkill; smoothsailing; South40
Evidently, this was no secret: http://missouri-news.org/midwest-news/nebraska/cain-voted-for-bill-clinton/10262

What you might not know is that just 17 months earlier Cain was on Clinton’s side. Ten days after he confronted the President, Cain told this reporter (at the time Cain was living in Omaha and I was reporting for KMTV the CBS affiliate in Omaha) that, while he was embarrassed to admit it, on Election Day, 1992 Cain had voted for the Clinton-Gore ticket.

And it’s not as if Cain had jumped on a Nebraskans for Clinton bandwagon. Most of the state opposed Clinton, who only managed to pick up 29 per cent of the vote (Bush 47-Clinton 29-Perot 24).

78 posted on 11/01/2011 9:51:50 PM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed: Will use. Cut spending, cut spending, cut spending, now,now,now!)
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To: chris_bdba

I voted for Perot, maybe I should be in prison. LOL


79 posted on 11/01/2011 9:52:26 PM PDT by MaxMax
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To: MaxMax

Or an insane asylum.. :-)


80 posted on 11/01/2011 9:54:53 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: txroadkill

Supported? I think Clinton just ordered a pizza from Godfathers and then this girl delivered it and and -— never mind!


81 posted on 11/01/2011 9:55:31 PM PDT by Mark (Don't argue with my posts. I typed while under sniper fire..)
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To: Uri’el-2012

Baloney. You’re trying too hard. We knew about the women, but mostly, we knew that the Dems and the Clintons were all for abortion, all abortion, all the time.


82 posted on 11/01/2011 9:56:28 PM PDT by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed: Will use. Cut spending, cut spending, cut spending, now,now,now!)
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To: Uri’el-2012

“In 1992 Clinton was more conservative than GHW Bush.”

That’s not true at all. Clinton may have run as a semi-conservative to get elected, but once inaugurated, the first thing he tried to do was institute gays in the military. Then his first major policy initiative (after signing into law the largest tax increase in U.S. history up to that point) was HillaryCare(essentially a duplicate of Obamacare).

The reality is that it’s the fact that Clinton lurched so far left in 93-94 that lead to the GOP wipeout in the 94 elections. After those elections, Clinton wisely took Dick Morris’ advice and triangulated-claiming GOP initiatives like Welfare Reform for his own. But he never would have pushed for these with a Dem Congress.

I think people have hazy memories of how liberal Clinton was (especially at the beginning of his first term) because Obama is such a radical Marxist he makes Clinton look like Reagan. Clinton was above anything else a narcissist and willing to take whatever position he needed to maintain personal popularity. This caused him to take a few conservative positions, but he certainly was not more conservative than George HW Bush.


83 posted on 11/01/2011 9:56:45 PM PDT by lquist1
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To: mnehring; justsaynomore

You two should try coordinating your defense better.

It’s very confusing, having one Cain supporter telling us everybody knew this and it’s not news, while another is telling us the writer is a lib and it’s a made-up attack.

When you figure out what the story is between you two, let me know. Or I’ll wait for Cain to be asked about this 4 times, so I can get the 4th and final clarification on the subject.


84 posted on 11/01/2011 10:00:27 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: lquist1

Bill Clinton was a serial rapist and worse and got clean away with it.


85 posted on 11/01/2011 10:00:27 PM PDT by txhurl (Did you want to talk or fish? Or feed the fish?)
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To: savagesusie

Me too...just out of college with a mind full of mush


86 posted on 11/01/2011 10:00:47 PM PDT by chiller ( Elect another batch of TPartiers and it won't matter which R we elect. WE will lead.)
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To: hocndoc
Does this mean that Cain voted against Ronald Reagan in the ‘80’s?

No, Not if Cain thought Reagan was still a Democrat! :o)

87 posted on 11/01/2011 10:01:44 PM PDT by smoothsailing (FUMR-FUBO)
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To: txhurl

The only thing that saved Monica’s life was Linda Tripp’s insistence she save the evidence. Otherwise, dead bimbo.


88 posted on 11/01/2011 10:02:24 PM PDT by txhurl (Did you want to talk or fish? Or feed the fish?)
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To: txroadkill

R U EFFING KIDDING ME?

no wonder I was getting “Will Robinsons”...you get older you better listen to yourself


89 posted on 11/01/2011 10:02:50 PM PDT by wardaddy (Ethnonationalist...I'll cop to that.)
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To: txroadkill

Rick Perry was a Democrat around those days too. The point?


90 posted on 11/01/2011 10:02:55 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: txroadkill

IF true, Herm can make a point with his conversion. DO NOT act apologetic.


91 posted on 11/01/2011 10:03:57 PM PDT by chiller ( Elect another batch of TPartiers and it won't matter which R we elect. WE will lead.)
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To: txroadkill
So did my husband... I almost couldn't marry him! But it was in NY so at least it didn't count.

Now he's more conservative than I am! And we're still in NY so it really doesn't count... :(

But we're trying!

92 posted on 11/01/2011 10:04:18 PM PDT by MacMattico
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To: txroadkill

This Reagan Democrat says “who the %$#@ cares?


93 posted on 11/01/2011 10:06:31 PM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: mnehring

Well, who knows. I actually like the idea, it tells me Cain is capable of tossing aside a failed ideology and embracing a more pro-American view. Reagan did it, so did Perry.


94 posted on 11/01/2011 10:07:13 PM PDT by smoothsailing (FUMR-FUBO)
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To: txroadkill
Bill Clinton? Aw no. I knew he sucked ass back in 92. I'm getting real disillusioned with this group of jokers.

I'll probably hold my nose and vote for the candidate who can beat Romney. Cain's lucky that I'm at the point of anybody but Romney or Obama.

95 posted on 11/01/2011 10:08:03 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Anybody but Romney or Obama)
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To: Nonstatist
Holy Crap! We hve no one to vote for, Nobody at all. DOOM.

Darn. I want my ball back, I'm going home.

96 posted on 11/01/2011 10:09:48 PM PDT by MaxMax
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To: lquist1
Hillarycare, Gun bans, tax increases, Waco, Janet Reno, Jamie Gorelick and Eric Holder. Clinton was about power. His ideology was being president. Dangerous man.
97 posted on 11/01/2011 10:10:19 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Anybody but Romney or Obama)
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To: justsaynomore

“Cain said the same thing in an interview not that long ago that it was the mid 90s that he became a Republican (Kemp had a positive influence on him)

This is not news, he’s mentioned it in at least one interview that I know of.”

Agreed. And neither is it news that Perry supported Gore in 1988 before becoming a Republican in 1989 or that Michele Bachmann worked for the Carter campaign in 1976 but became a Republican in 1980 because of Reagan. The common thread with all of these examples is that once they switched over to the GOP, they have REMAINED there and have had consistent conservative positions ever since. This stands in sharp contrast to another leading candidate we know.


98 posted on 11/01/2011 10:10:28 PM PDT by lquist1
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To: GeronL

Rick Perry was a Democrat around those days too. The point?


The point? SOME people saw the traitorous, election-fraudulent, bought-by-the-Commies the RAT party was becoming from the TOP SIDE DOWN, not from the grassroots UP and changed parties to the one most likely to stop the destruction of America.

You are seeing a political ‘market correction’ taking place.
Words have meanings, and elections have meanings.

Nov 2012 will further demonstrate the PEOPLE throwing off old deceptive labels and returning to the essence of America. No wonder all the RATS with any sense are looking to Hillary to get them out of this, the clintons are the agents of commie change, real change.

They will be buried, too.


99 posted on 11/01/2011 10:13:15 PM PDT by txhurl (Did you want to talk or fish? Or feed the fish?)
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To: JoenTX

There will NEVER, EVER be a reason to “gravitate toward Romney”.


100 posted on 11/01/2011 10:13:23 PM PDT by Politicalmom (I am intrigued and open to the Bush administration's amnesty proposal. -Rick Perry)
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