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Where sanity still lives: Madison spots that donít allow concealed carry (WI barf alert)
avclub.com ^ | 1 November, 2011 | Mark Riechers

Posted on 11/02/2011 4:43:35 AM PDT by marktwain

Concealed carry comes to Wisconsin today, and Second Amendment fans should be excited that for a scant $50 permit, they can now protect themselves by shooting people in Madison streets. However, they might be bummed to find out that Madison has a bunch of safe havens for those who feel more comfortable when they know people around them aren’t armed. The A.V. Club checked on a few Madison landmarks to give the gun-averse a primer.

Monona Terrace

Listed reason for banning concealed weapons: The convention center is technically a city-owned building, and Mayor Soglin pledged that no city-owned buildings would allow concealed weapons—something he called a proactive approach to addressing “bad public policy.” The actual reason you can’t bring them: Michael Feldman fears a scenario when an audience member who never gets picked for the “Whad’ya Know Show” decides to force his or her way on as a contestant with a .357 Magnum in hand.

Metro buses and bus stops

Listed reason for banning concealed weapons: Buses aren’t technically public buildings, so city officials have assumed that they can continue to ban weapons onboard. Stops and transfer points are owned by the city, placing them under Soglin’s blanket band on concealed carry.

The actual reason you can’t bring them: No one wants a heated standoff to break out every time a person in a wheelchair needs to relocate riders seated in the priority seating section. Also, transfer points are dangerous enough with pellet-gun death squads running around—do we really want to provoke an arms race with actual weaponry?

Democratic legislators’ offices in the Capitol

Listed reason for banning concealed weapons: Ultimately the Walker administration decided that allowing concealed weapons within the Capitol and other state buildings would be the only way to avoid being called massive hypocrites. Still, some defiant legislators have posted signs on their office doors banning concealed weapons, including state Sen. Bob Jauch, one of the six Democrats who actually (and confusingly) voted to pass the concealed carry bill.

The actual reason you can’t bring them: Americans For Prosperity paid for a pretty expensive-looking AV setup for the Tea Party’s visit to Madison. Do you think Democratic legislators want to find out just how many laser-sighted Berettas they’re willing to hand out in front of Democrats’ offices just to prove some point about the Second Amendment?

Camp Randall, Kohl Center, Union South, and Memorial Union

Listed reason for banning concealed weapons: UW officials announced that weapons would be banned from all campus buildings back in September. The Kohl Center and Camp Randall were of specific concern due to the massive numbers of people coming in and out at once, which could present more dangerous situations should concealed weapons be allowed into the mix.

The actual reason you can’t bring them: “Jump Around” is dangerous enough after a lengthy day of tailgating, but throwing a bunch of Tasers and nightsticks into the mix of the student section would only end badly for everyone involved. Besides, no one wants a Last Boy Scout scenario playing out on the field.

Overture Center

Listed reason for banning concealed weapons: Overture is partially owned by the city, meaning that Mayor Soglin’s ban on concealed weapons covers it as well, but Overture management probably would have banned concealed weapons for snooty public safety reasons regardless.

The actual reason you can’t bring them: Ira Glass startles easily, and having someone in the front row stroking a Glock might prompt him to hide under his signature desk until someone can get Alex Blumburg on the phone to coax him out with soft, disarming chuckling.

Majestic Theatre

Listed reason for banning concealed weapons: As a privately owned business, the Majestic is free to set its own rules for concealed carry, and it has elected to ban all concealed weapons. Expect most venues to follow suit, since similar concerns about large, drunken crowds exist between all of them.

The actual reason you can’t bring them: Allowing concealed weapons at the ’80s Vs. ’90s: Old School Hip-Hop Edition show could spell disaster for MC Hammer fans, whose only defense in the battle over East Coast vs. West Coast supremacy would be musty parachute pants.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: americans4prosperity; banglist; ccw; gunfreezones; killzones; kochbrothers; madison; wi
For a number of years, until the Wisconsin Legislature overuled them with a preemption law, Madison was the only city in the state where it was illegal to sell or buy a handgun.
1 posted on 11/02/2011 4:43:36 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Can municipalities override state law in Wisconsin?


2 posted on 11/02/2011 4:45:54 AM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: marktwain
"The A.V. Club checked on a few Madison landmarks to give the gun-averse a primer."

LOL! Also known as "choke points" and "target rich" enironments. Easy pickins'.
3 posted on 11/02/2011 4:56:42 AM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: marktwain
Madison has a bunch of safe havens for those who feel more comfortable when they know stupidly assume people around them aren’t armed except for the criminals out to do them harm and who disregard laws in the first place.
4 posted on 11/02/2011 4:59:27 AM PDT by grobdriver (Proud Member, Party Of No! No Socialism - No Fascism - Nobama - No Way!)
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To: marktwain

what’s the punishment for disobeying the leftards?

It might be worth it (better judged by 12 than carried by 6 and all that...)


5 posted on 11/02/2011 5:17:48 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (See ya later, debt inflator ! Gone in 4 (2012))
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To: marktwain; Joe Brower

6 posted on 11/02/2011 5:36:47 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: marktwain
Gun Facts


7 posted on 11/02/2011 5:59:29 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The enemy of my enemy is my candidate.)
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To: cripplecreek

No but municipalities and private businesses can decide if they want to admit concealed carry owners. That’s their right. In practice, it won’t be a problem any more than it turned out to be a problem in any other RTC state.


8 posted on 11/02/2011 6:00:04 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: marktwain

So according to this a$$hat I can go to Madison Wisconsin, pay 50 bucks and start shooting people to protect myself?
Other than maybe Islamabad or Quetta, I can’t think of a better place to start.


9 posted on 11/02/2011 6:00:27 AM PDT by MadJack ("Patience is bitter, but its fruit is sweet." (Afghan proverb))
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Fix that damn map, would you?


10 posted on 11/02/2011 6:00:51 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: Travis McGee
Ding ding ding!! We have a winner.

Thanks Matt. You have always understood the reality of dis-armament. When I went to a city park yesterday with my dogs, I carried my wife's Mace, cause the city of Knoxville says I would be a law-breaker if I carried a firearm. Naturally, thugs, robbers and gangbangers will also comply. /sarc

11 posted on 11/02/2011 6:03:37 AM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (Gun-Free zones are playgrounds for felons)
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To: marktwain

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2801220/posts


12 posted on 11/02/2011 6:05:47 AM PDT by djf (Soon you will need a prescription for EVERY SINGLE VITAMIN.)
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To: goldstategop
Fix that damn map, would you?

It's not my map, @$$hole.

13 posted on 11/02/2011 6:06:07 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The enemy of my enemy is my candidate.)
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To: goldstategop

Here in Michigan our state constitution supersedes local laws. Lots of cities have attempted to impose anti gun ordinances but all have been ruled unconstitutional.


14 posted on 11/02/2011 6:09:46 AM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: Travis McGee

A picture paints a thousand words. Yours shouts them!


15 posted on 11/02/2011 6:12:15 AM PDT by airborne (Paratroopers! Good to the last drop!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Plus Wisconsin can now issue CC permits. Went into effect yesterday. Open carry has always been legal.


16 posted on 11/02/2011 6:55:21 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Good map, but it doesn’t tell the whole story. I don’t know about the other “may issue” states, but here in New Jersey it is nearly impossible to get a carry permit unless you are a retired LEO or politically connected. You have to prove a “need”, and the proof is never sufficient.


17 posted on 11/02/2011 6:55:48 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: marktwain

WI should follow FL’s example and sue :

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2801324/posts


18 posted on 11/02/2011 7:51:24 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (See ya later, debt inflator ! Gone in 4 (2012))
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To: afraidfortherepublic
"Open carry"

Open carry has always been legal in Wisconsin, but cops have always frowned on it and made it a point to harass anyone (other than deer hunters) carrying a firearm openly. Plus, I'm sure many establishments, public and private, have banned open carrying on their premises.

I read a story some years ago about a Wisconsin police office that basically iterated what I just wrote. The cop said that he and his fellow officers would stop anyone openly carrying a firearm and accuse them of something. It might always have been legal, but I've lived in this state all my life, 61 years, and I've yet to see an average citizen carrying a firearm openly when not hunting.

19 posted on 11/02/2011 8:51:15 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: marktwain
However, they might be bummed to find out that Madison has a bunch of safe havens for those who feel more comfortable when they know people around them aren’t armed. The A.V. Club checked on a few Madison landmarks to give the gun-averse a primer.

We're finally establishing gulags for liberals where the GOOD people won't have to look at them or talk to them?? Woohoo!

20 posted on 11/02/2011 9:42:05 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: driftless2

>I’ve lived in this state all my life, 61 years, and I’ve yet to see an average citizen carrying a firearm openly when not hunting.

It’s not too late to start.


21 posted on 11/02/2011 9:46:05 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: goldstategop
No but municipalities and private businesses can decide if they want to admit concealed carry owners. That’s their right. In practice, it won’t be a problem any more than it turned out to be a problem in any other RTC state.

I have no problem with the businesses. I have the first amendment right to speak my mind on whatever issue I wish, but I have no problem with a restaurant saying I can't do so at the top of my voice from the top of one of their tables during dinner hour.

The municipalities are different. They don't actually OWN anything. They're just allowed to USE facilities provided to them at no cost by the taxpayers, who may be legally REQUIRED to visit those facilities from time to time. Deciding which of their Constitutional rights the owners of the building may bring along with them on these visits is unacceptable.

22 posted on 11/02/2011 9:46:28 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

“not more than $500 or not more than 30 days in jail or both.”

page48:

http://www.wisctowns.com/uploads/ckfiles/files/ccw_frequently_asked_questions.pdf


23 posted on 11/02/2011 10:43:54 PM PDT by GunPkrBkr (I'd rather be judged by twelve, than carried by six.)
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