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Mexican senators seek meeting with Georgia lawmakers over immigration
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | November 1, 2011 | Jeremy Redmon

Posted on 11/02/2011 8:38:11 AM PDT by moonshinner_09

WASHINGTON -- A group of Mexican senators announced Tuesday they are preparing to meet with state legislators in Georgia and four other states next month, hoping to head off more stringent immigration laws like the one Georgia enacted this year.The senators plan to share information with state lawmakers that shows illegal immigrants generally stay out of trouble and contribute to the economy while they are here.

Sen. Carlos Jimenez Macias, a member of the Mexican Senate’s Foreign Relations Committee, confirmed those plans Tuesday at a workshop on immigration reform in D.C. at the German Marshall Fund, a nonpartisan public policy institution.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Mexico; US: Alabama; US: Arizona; US: Georgia; US: South Carolina; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: aliens; bribery; corruption; criminalaliens; fraud; ga; georgia; gtfo; illegalimmigration; illegals; immigration; lping; mexifascism; mx

1 posted on 11/02/2011 8:38:24 AM PDT by moonshinner_09
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To: moonshinner_09

So coddle foriegn pols or listen to your own people? Tough choice there.


2 posted on 11/02/2011 8:40:57 AM PDT by Sybeck1 (Mitt Romney, a piss poor choice)
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To: moonshinner_09

If they are such stellar citizens why is the Mexican government working so hard to keep them from returning to Mexico? Hummmmm?


3 posted on 11/02/2011 8:42:10 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: Sybeck1

Rather than take care of their own poor and uneducated, corrupt Mexican politicians’ idea of a social welfare policy is to encourage their lowest classes to go North.


4 posted on 11/02/2011 8:42:35 AM PDT by PGR88 (I'm so open-minded my brains fell out)
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To: moonshinner_09

Mexico, solve your own frigging employment problems, don’t send them here! We don’t want them!


5 posted on 11/02/2011 8:42:46 AM PDT by NRA1995 (Obama's presidency is shovel-ready; let's bury it in 2012!)
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To: Sybeck1
I'd say, bring it.

Maybe they want assylum.

Hmmmphh ... "Senor, you are treating us very badly in your country"

OK ... release every American in your jails and we'll talk.

6 posted on 11/02/2011 8:43:08 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: moonshinner_09
"illegal immigrants generally stay out of trouble and contribute to the economy while they are here."

Mexico returns illegal migrants to Cuba


7 posted on 11/02/2011 8:44:45 AM PDT by LibFreeUSA (Pick Your Poison)
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To: moonshinner_09

“The senators plan to share information with state lawmakers that shows illegal immigrants generally stay out of trouble and contribute to the economy while they are here.”

That sounds like a good reason to make legal immigration more available. It doesn’t sound like a good reason to encourage more illegals.


8 posted on 11/02/2011 8:46:02 AM PDT by jdege
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To: moonshinner_09

They should tell them to pound sand. If the state legislators meet with mexican senators who would constitute a foreign delegation, then the POS administration could concievably go after them for conducting foreign policy talks which constitutionally is a federal privilege. This is not setting up a sister city or trying to get them to buy more peanuts from Georgia and even that involves the fed.


9 posted on 11/02/2011 8:46:02 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: circlecity

I hope someone asks these Mexican Pols - “so how exactly do you handle illegal immigrants in Mexico from places like Guatamala and Honduras who are in your country?”


10 posted on 11/02/2011 8:46:30 AM PDT by PGR88 (I'm so open-minded my brains fell out)
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To: moonshinner_09

I would just hand the Mexicans a copy of their own immigration laws and say, “You want to see some stringent immigration laws, take a look at these.”


11 posted on 11/02/2011 8:46:37 AM PDT by San Jacinto
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To: moonshinner_09
This is totally outrageous. The states aren't required to meet with a foreign government. Thought we had a state department or a president. This is crazy.

Whenever you think things can't get any more out of control, stuff like this happens.

12 posted on 11/02/2011 8:46:45 AM PDT by mia
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To: moonshinner_09

Tell them to stay home! They are not welcome.


13 posted on 11/02/2011 8:49:10 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: NRA1995
Mexico, solve your own frigging employment problems, don’t send them here! We don’t want them!

Mexico has a lower unemployment rate than the US. Their problem is they want to get rid of the dark skinned non-Europeans.

14 posted on 11/02/2011 8:49:16 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: moonshinner_09

Oh, for a dozen state legislators who have the nerve to invite the Mexican senators, and then turn the tables by lecturing them for an hour or so on the shortcomings of their OWN open cesspool of a country — and then post the entire proceedings to Youtube for all to see.


15 posted on 11/02/2011 8:49:21 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: moonshinner_09

Georgia might want to ask a few questions about how illegal immigrants are treated in Mexico.


16 posted on 11/02/2011 8:51:16 AM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: moonshinner_09

Is this from The Onion?


17 posted on 11/02/2011 8:51:41 AM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: moonshinner_09

“...illegal immigrants generally stay out of trouble and contribute to the economy while they are here.”

So?

They’re still CRIMINALS if they’ve come here ILLEGALLY!

Laws may not mean anything in Mexico, but the rule of law is still important to some of us here.


18 posted on 11/02/2011 8:58:14 AM PDT by Tigerized (Occupy Wall Street? Go find the real culprits in the Capitol Building...)
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To: moonshinner_09; HiJinx

"For Macias, the issue is personal. He said he illegally entered the United States when he was 17 to find work and lived for a time in Chicago."


Criminal Alien

19 posted on 11/02/2011 8:59:32 AM PDT by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: moonshinner_09
I owuld love to have a word with these pompous amigos....

I have several pertinent questions for them:

(1) Where is the honor of Mexico?

(2) How much are you willing to compensate the taxpayers of America for the damages done by your criminals and negligent children to our loved ones and private property??

(3) Why do you expect us to feed your children and grandchildren thru our social programs and medical systems??

(4) How do you feel about the US Congress passing legislation declaring illegal immigrants must register and qualify as economic refugees in order?? -- periodically reporting to immigration control officers;
....And subject to immediate deportation without further hearing upon conviction of any single felony -- or multiple misdemeanors??

--FINALLY---

(5) What us your opinion concerning the USA asking the United Nations to declare Mexico a failed state?

*****************

MEX_FAIL1

20 posted on 11/02/2011 9:01:58 AM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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To: moonshinner_09

US citizens need to be able to buy land anywhere in Mexico and eventually take over a Mexican state or two to set up the second Lone Star republic.


21 posted on 11/02/2011 9:08:10 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: circlecity

So they can work here and send US money back home.


22 posted on 11/02/2011 9:11:15 AM PDT by Zeppelin (Keep on FReepin' on...)
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To: moonshinner_09

Take a hike, José.


23 posted on 11/02/2011 9:12:53 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The enemy of my enemy is my candidate.)
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To: circlecity

“If they are such stellar citizens why is the Mexican government working so hard to keep them from returning to Mexico?”

The Mexican government has used immigration to the United States as a revolutionary safety valve for the entire 20th and now the 21st century. The Mexican economy is socialist, meaning it is dysfunctional and will never grow to accommodate the number of people Mexico has. Starving or economically disadvantaged people tend to overthrow oppressive bad governments. By acting as Mexico’s safety valve, the United States deprives the Mexican people of any opportunity to change their government and become wealthy like the United States.

The only real jobs in Mexico are for the state owned Power Company, Phone Company, Oil Company or the government. To get one of those coveted jobs you must pay a bribe. Even to get a job at the Power Company fueling trucks and washing them requires a bribe. (I know some Mexican families.)

The Mexican ideal is to have a job in America and commute home to Mexico. Then, they retire on American Social Security and a variety of American social welfare programs. To maintain eligibility, they keep an address in America after retirement to keep up the pretense that they’re living here so they can collect checks. ACORN operatives set them up and tell them how to work the system. An elderly Mexican man (the father of a friend) took me to a huge California apartment complex close to the Baja border. He explained that the reason the parking lot was nearly deserted was that most of the “tenants” actually lived in Mexico but used these residences to get California welfare. For the cost of a two hour drive four times a month, you can live like a king in Mexico.

Now, the other reason is, the Mexican economy would probably collapse if all that money stopped flowing home to Mexico.

This California welfare fraud is so huge and so obvious that there’s no way the California government is unaware of it. California will have to collapse before they can correct the situation.


24 posted on 11/02/2011 9:14:47 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: moonshinner_09

They’ve got big money...multiple drug cartel’s money, riding on their illegal immigrants here in the state of Georgia, of course they are concerned - this is their hub!


25 posted on 11/02/2011 9:15:50 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: moonshinner_09

I wish our American Senators were as protective of us as the Mexican Senators are of illegals.


26 posted on 11/02/2011 9:16:03 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (They vote twice, we'll vote three times. AND DONATE TO FR MORE!)
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To: moonshinner_09

“A group of Mexican senators announced Tuesday they are preparing to meet with state legislators in Georgia and four other states next month, hoping to head off more stringent immigration laws like the one Georgia enacted this year”

Yeh that’ll work. Getting those illegals out of GA is like a miracle. Its already so much better here.


27 posted on 11/02/2011 9:17:49 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: moonshinner_09
Whether or not they ‘stay out of trouble’ is not the point at all. What is it about illegal that lawmakers (of all people) don't understand?

Contrary to what zipperheads like Linda Chavez and Michael Medved say, most Americans (including LEGAL immigrants) strongly oppose this cultural suicide.

I don't hear the likes of Linbaugh, Hannity or Coulter say much about it either.

28 posted on 11/02/2011 9:24:24 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Doesn't anyone love liberty anymore?)
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To: moonshinner_09
Take your trash home you worthless pond scum.
29 posted on 11/02/2011 9:37:06 AM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: Sybeck1
So coddle foriegn pols or listen to your own people? Tough choice there.

NOT if you are a RAT and looking out for those poor downtrodden UNDOCUMENTED DemocRATS. Obozo is gonna need every stinkn' vote he can buy, bribe, and steal come Nov 6, 2012 - I am becoming convinced this will be one of the worst setbacks for the RAT party in decades.
30 posted on 11/02/2011 9:45:50 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: moonshinner_09

We’d better keep close track of this delegation. They might just stay.


31 posted on 11/02/2011 10:05:07 AM PDT by alancarp (Liberals are all for shared pain... until they're included in the pain group.)
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To: moonshinner_09
Mexican senators seek meeting with Georgia lawmakers over immigration

Partial transcript of the meeting:

GA Assemblyman: "No, Senator, I'm sorry. You'll have to go through all the normal channels to get your green card, too. I can't get it for you, in exchange for that big sack of Mexican currency."

32 posted on 11/02/2011 10:33:19 AM PDT by Lazamataz (I guess some Occupiers are more 99% than other Occupiers.)
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To: moonshinner_09

I see the Mexicans didn’t bring up their own draconian illegal alien laws. I also did see an offer to pay for the services their illegals suck out of the system.

Didn’t Massachusetts recently publish that 1/3 of their health budget goes to funding healthcare for illegal aliens?


34 posted on 11/02/2011 11:13:56 AM PDT by VeniVidiVici ("Si, se gimme!")
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To: moonshinner_09

BLANK the Mexicans. This is really pi$$ing me off.


35 posted on 11/02/2011 11:18:43 AM PDT by NoGrayZone (Stay involved..because stupid people are running America! - Herman Cain - Amen!!!)
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To: moonshinner_09

They should ask a lot of questions about how Mexico treats its immigrants. Do illegals in Mexico get welfare, free schools and free ER visits? Do they get to protest to get more? (it is a felony for foreigners to even attend a political rally in Mexico)

They are just hypocrites.


36 posted on 11/02/2011 11:40:49 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Gen.Blather
“If they are such stellar citizens why is the Mexican government working so hard to keep them from returning to Mexico?”

On the surface it simply appears as if it's about wanting to "do those jobs Americans won't do." What most Americans fail to grasp is the strategic objective: a demographic shift throughout this country so significant over time that the cessation of U.S. territory to Mexico will be inevitable. Look at the increasing radicalization of some of the hispanic population in this country... each year the calls for "reconquista" grow louder.

37 posted on 11/02/2011 11:41:54 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Hurrah me boys, for FREEDOM! `Tis the risin` o` the moon!)
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To: moonshinner_09
The senators plan to share information with state lawmakers that shows illegal immigrants generally stay out of trouble and contribute to the economy while they are here.

Does this make any sense? Would our congressmen go to states, provinces or prefectures in other nations and say, don't worry about these millions of Americans violating your immigration laws, they otherwise stay out of trouble and contribute to your economy?

Two responses to these Mexican senators:
1. your unemployment rate is over 3% lower than ours.
2. your economic growth rate was 5.5%, more than twice ours.

38 posted on 11/02/2011 12:07:33 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Republicans will find a way to reelected Obama.)
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To: GeronL

Sounds like a good reason for Georgians to stage a little peaceful protest to let them know how we feel...


39 posted on 11/02/2011 12:30:59 PM PDT by Antoninus II
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To: Nervous Tick
Do you realize that there is still no actual right of political speech for foreigners , and I mean foreigners that have entered their country legally, with all the necessary documents, - down there in Mexico??

As soon as you, as a *legal* immigrant, start speaking out against government officials, actions, and /or policies, - the Mexican government has the right to throw you out of the country.

I hope to G*d that these state legislators tell the Mexican Senators to go to mind their own damned business.

40 posted on 11/02/2011 12:41:51 PM PDT by Cyropaedia ("Virtue cannot separate itself from reality without becoming a principal of evil...".)
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To: moonshinner_09
The senators plan to share information with state lawmakers that shows illegal immigrants generally stay out of trouble and contribute to the economy while they are here.
So these Mexican senators don't care that their Citizens here illegally in America, only that they're seen as good little sheeple when they get here.
41 posted on 11/02/2011 12:48:53 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: philman_36

lets see, every ILLEGAL in a college or university is taking a seat from a legal resident.

every ILLEGAL recieving government loans or grants is taking money that would go to a legal resident for education.

I hope Georgia lawmakers stand firm. Of couse if they meet with only democrats and the souther poverty law center (see communists) this is all a meaningless pr stunt for MSNBC and CNN world.


42 posted on 11/02/2011 12:55:00 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: philman_36

give the mexican senators copies of their own illegal alien law.

give the mexican senators copies of the law prohibiting foreigners from owning land in mexico...


43 posted on 11/02/2011 12:59:35 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: All

univision and telmundo will be droppnig rose petals in front of the mexican senators.

If anyone protests it will protrayed as “racists.”

This will have front page coverage on mexican and spanish language news.


44 posted on 11/02/2011 1:18:15 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: moonshinner_09

What business is it of these taco crunchers?


45 posted on 11/02/2011 1:44:59 PM PDT by IbJensen (The best thing you can do for the poor is not be one of them.)
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To: longtermmemmory
If anyone protests it will protrayed as “racists.”
Now, now you know that that word just isn't strong enough.
You have to use something really scary like xenophobe.
46 posted on 11/02/2011 1:46:35 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: longtermmemmory
If anyone protests it will protrayed as “racists.”

Is Mexican a race?

47 posted on 11/02/2011 1:47:49 PM PDT by IbJensen (The best thing you can do for the poor is not be one of them.)
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To: moonshinner_09
Mexican senators seek meeting with Georgia lawmakers over immigration

These Mexican senators should focus on fixing their hellhole of a country and quit sticking their noses in our political affairs.

48 posted on 11/02/2011 2:04:50 PM PDT by Isabel C.
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To: moonshinner_09

A 43-year-old Juarez woman tried to avoid inspection at a U.S. port of entry Friday by crawling on the pedestrian lane of the Stanton Street Bridge in downtown El Paso, television station KVIA reported.

Customs and Border Protection officers intercepted Herlinda Coronado Magallanes as she was crawling north along the walkway around 6:20 a.m. Friday after another border crosser alerted the officers, KVIA said.

When she was spotted, Magallanes tried to flee back into Mexico, Customs and Border Protection officers said.

Magallanes, who had previously been removed from the United States, was arrested on suspicion of illegal entry and is being held without bond at the El Paso County Jail, KVIA said.

“The motorist who alerted CBP should be commended,” said Hector Mancha, CBP’s El Paso port director said. “Community members and law enforcement personnel working closely together can help maintain El Paso’s ranking as one of the safest large cities in the U.S.”

Another 48 immigration violations were reported over the weekend at ports of entry in El Paso, West Texas and New Mexico, the border agency said in a news release.

Officers stopped 24 intended immigrants, eight imposters, seven people who entered the U.S. without proper examination, six false claims to U.S. citizenship and three counterfeit or altered documents, the release said.

http://www.abqjournal.com/main/2011/11/01/abqnewsseeker/juarez-woman-tries-to-crawl-into-u-s.html

The senators plan to share information with state lawmakers that shows illegal immigrants generally stay out of trouble and contribute to the economy while they are here. Officers stopped 24 intended immigrants, eight imposters, seven people who entered the U.S. without proper examination, six false claims to U.S. citizenship and three counterfeit or altered documents, the release said..<<<——illegal immigrants generally stay out of trouble


49 posted on 11/02/2011 2:09:26 PM PDT by moonshinner_09
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