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School Lunch Proposals Set Off a Dispute
The New York Times ^ | November 1, 2011 | Ron Nixon

Posted on 11/02/2011 1:46:08 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

WASHINGTON — The government has some thoughts on how to make the federally financed school lunch program more nutritious: A quarter-cup of tomato paste on pizza will no longer be considered a vegetable. Cut back on potatoes and add more fresh peaches, apples, spinach and broccoli. And hold the salt.

The proposed changes — the first in 15 years to the $11 billion school-lunch program — are meant to reduce rising childhood obesity, Agriculture Department officials say. Food companies including Coca-Cola, Del Monte Foods and the makers of frozen pizza and French fries have a huge stake in the new guidelines and many argue that it would raise the cost of meals and call for food that too many children just will not eat.

With some nutrition experts rallying to the Obama administration’s side, the battle is shaping up as a contentious and complicated fight involving lawmakers from farm states and large low-income urban areas that rely on the program, which fed some 30 million children last year with free or subsidized meals. Food companies have spent more than $5.6 million so far lobbying against the proposed rules.

A group of farm-state senators have already succeeded in blocking an Agriculture Department plan to limit the amount of starchy foods in school meals, and are now hoping to win a larger victory. The group includes Senator Mark Udall, a Colorado Democrat, and Senator Susan Collins, Republican of Maine, who once worked picking potatoes and led the opposition to the new starch rules last month.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: education; foodnazis; foodpolice; nannystate; nutrition; publicschools; school; schoollunch; schoollunches; usda

1 posted on 11/02/2011 1:46:11 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Eric Blair 2084; SheLion; Gabz; Hank Kerchief; 383rr; libertarian27; traviskicks; bamahead; CSM; ...

Nanny State PING!


2 posted on 11/02/2011 1:49:03 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Democrat potato pickers for good sense... who knew


3 posted on 11/02/2011 1:49:38 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (ya don't tug on Superman's cape/ya don't spit into the wind--and ya don't speak well of Mitt to Jim!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
...which fed some 30 million children last year with free or subsidized meals.

That is far from being "free" and is one of the reasons that our government is broke!!

4 posted on 11/02/2011 1:51:45 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
--having been in grade school when the lunch program was started--to get rid of the post-WW 2 agricultural surpluses--I have seen it nearly all of my life.

--classic example of "government" gone wild and the unstoppability of any program with a constituency------

5 posted on 11/02/2011 1:54:28 PM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: rellimpank

It hasn’t “one” constituancy - it has on the order of 340 federal and state agencies involved.

I could get behend a program that just fired all the feds, and fed the kids, instead.


6 posted on 11/02/2011 1:57:11 PM PDT by patton ("Je pense donc je suis," - My Horse.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Obama has met his match. You don’t mess with the potato lobby.


7 posted on 11/02/2011 2:07:29 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Food companies including Coca-Cola, Del Monte Foods and the makers of frozen pizza and French fries have a huge stake in the new guidelines... With some nutrition experts rallying to the Obama administration’s side...

Toe the statist line and you're automagically a "nutrition expert"; oppose it and you "have a huge stake in the new guidelines". [facepalm]

Hey, Old Gray Whore! No wonder my bird won't even shit on your paper!

8 posted on 11/02/2011 2:22:09 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
The proposed changes — the first in 15 years to the $11 billion school-lunch program — are meant to reduce rising childhood obesity,

A P.E. class and a few jumping-jacks would do the same thing. /s

9 posted on 11/02/2011 2:31:38 PM PDT by KittenClaws (A closed mouth gathers no foot.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“A quarter-cup of tomato paste on pizza will no longer be considered a vegetable.”

When the premise of the story starts out wrong, the rest is suspect.

A ‘tomato’ is not a vegetable.

It’s a fruit.


10 posted on 11/02/2011 2:33:01 PM PDT by Bigh4u2 (Denial is the first requirement to be a liberal)
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To: EGPWS

30 million kids who have parents that are too damned lazy to pack a lunch for their offspring.


11 posted on 11/02/2011 2:54:53 PM PDT by Mears (I can't take anymore of this.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Seriously, how bizarre it is, for kids in your local school to have their daily menu dictated by a Federal bureaucrat.


12 posted on 11/02/2011 3:02:55 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
which fed some 30 million children last year with free or subsidized meals

Many who promptly threw down a $20 for sugar filled snacks and treats.

The government is killing a schools ability to have a hope of breaking even in the cafeteria.

The schools need to tell the feds to go pound sand!

13 posted on 11/02/2011 4:27:37 PM PDT by MamaTexan (Dear GOP - ~ We suck less ~ is NOT a campaign platform)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I remember back in the day when REAL food was actually cooked on the premises and slopped onto a sectioned tray by little old ladies wearing hairnets.

The little old ladies were pretty fair cooks too.

My kids can’t stand the swill that passes for school lunch now. They peck at it just enough to get by until they come home and have real food.

Home lunches won’t cut it either, unless they can warm up leftover dinners in a microwave.

They know what good food is supposed to taste like.


14 posted on 11/02/2011 7:40:17 PM PDT by Califreak (Degenerate the faithful with that crazy casbah sound)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks for the ping!


15 posted on 11/02/2011 9:13:57 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Califreak

Those little old ladies knew their stuff. What passes for “food” at school today really gets my goat because I know firsthand that it can be done better.

Several years ago when my kids were still in Catholic elementary school, I took a job in the cafeteria just for something to do during the day.

Within a few months, I was asked to take over all the cooking duties. Now..I could cook, but I never thought that one day I’d be able to cook for 700 students, faculty, and staff (and even the priests from the rectory).

I had two rules: 1) No meat on Friday, and 2) If I wouldn’t serve it at my own dinner table, I wouldn’t serve it at the school.

I ordered only fresh meats, REAL butter, REAL milk, REAL cheese and both fresh vegetables and some frozen (peas are fine frozen, for example). I made my own soups, salads, dressings, and sauces, baked my own homemade cookies, and flavored everything exactly as I would at home.

For Thanksgiving, we pulled out all the stops and presented a feast that took no less than 29 fresh turkeys and 4 days to prepare. There were 2 kinds of stuffing, 2 kinds of cranberry relish, sweet potatoes, mashed potatoes, gravy, apple turnovers, peas with salt pork and onions, and carrots in an herbed cream sauce. Can’t do THAT in the public schools! In addition to the kids and faculty, parents were invited to come to the feast as well. We served nearly 1000 people on Feast day.

Only the chicken nuggets were store-bought and frozen, and the only reason I allowed them was that the kindergarteners literally cried if we didn’t have them. However...we only ordered all white-meat nuggets and never EVER the government ones sent to the unfortunates at the public schools. (Those were delivered to us by accident once — my God, they were revolting! I didn’t serve them, and yes, the kindergarteners cried.)

The ingredients were more expensive than the disgusting frozen stuff, but the cafeteria’s profits went through the roof because the food was attractive and tasty. It was literally “just like Mom made.”

Every week I made an extra batch of something new and offered it as a free special. If the kids who tried it liked it..it went on the next month’s menu. MANY kids got to taste things they’d never tasted before, and I was always happy when they came back for seconds.

If school chefs were allowed to do what I was allowed to do because the government wasn’t interfering in our food choices, I bet the kids would eat GREAT food and the cafeterias would make a little money to boot.

Regards,

PS: A salad bar was available for sale every day, and both a simple salad and whole fresh fruit was offered for free with a lunch. The salad bar salads sold like hotcakes, and most kids did like to take some fresh fruit and/or a simple salad, too.

PPS: I guess I should admit that I did not make my own pasta as I would at home.


16 posted on 11/02/2011 9:56:40 PM PDT by VermiciousKnid (Sic narro nos totus!)
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To: VermiciousKnid

Ha!

I bet a whole lot of those kids couldn’t wait to get to school so they could eat lunch.

I cook like that and my son’s friends sometimes come over so they can have dinner with us. One of them is always asking “What’s for dinner?”


17 posted on 11/02/2011 10:03:41 PM PDT by Califreak (It was the best of times, it was the worst of times)
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To: Califreak

HA! I know the feeling, Cali. If I’d have known how good it feels to feed people well, I’d have tried it much sooner — I was a hopeless mess in the kitchen when I was a kid and my poor mother had to toss me out of it with alarming regularity.

I guess somehow, SOMETHING she was trying to teach me finally sunk in.

Regards,


18 posted on 11/02/2011 10:18:02 PM PDT by VermiciousKnid (Sic narro nos totus!)
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To: VermiciousKnid

Now that’s real cooking! My understanding is that in most public school cafeterias these days, there is little cooking going on. Instead they are heating up and serving frozen and canned foods and serving them


19 posted on 11/03/2011 2:41:17 AM PDT by dennisw (What good is a used up world and how could it be worth having - - Sting)
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To: dennisw

You are correct. There is very little actual cooking going on, but boy do they have some $$$$$ kitchens in those schools. I WISH I’d had a kitchen so well-stocked with equipment!

And there is NO wiggle room. The cooks must cook what is mandated by the government regulations and must MAKE the children take their veggies and fruit. (Guess where THAT stuff ends up — who wants boiled, canned green beans with no butter or anything on them? Nobody, that’s who.) No Thanksgiving feasts for them, that’s for sure.

I was just talking to a friend of mine last night about this very thing. She works in a public high school cafeteria and is disgusted by what she’s has to put out as “food.”

Regards,


20 posted on 11/03/2011 3:35:06 AM PDT by VermiciousKnid (Sic narro nos totus!)
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