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The “Disgrace” of the Majority - To the disbelief of left-wing media, most Britons want a...
City Journal ^ | 2 November 2011 | Theodore Dalrymple

Posted on 11/02/2011 11:17:11 PM PDT by neverdem

To the disbelief of left-wing media, most Britons want a referendum on EU membership.

An editorial in the Guardian on October 25 exposed the nature of what often is called “the European project”: a goal that those pursuing it never state out loud. In brief, it is the construction of a huge power bloc under the domination of a self-perpetuating political class and its auxiliary nomenklatura, free of the most minimal democratic oversight or constitutional restraint.

The editorial was titled “Conservatives and Europe: learned nothing, forgotten nothing,” a reference to Talleyrand’s famous dictum about the Bourbons. Britain’s Conservative Party, the editorial argued, was unfit to govern because of its continued internal division on the issue of the U.K.’s membership in the European Union, the latest manifestation of which was a vote by 80 Conservative members of Parliament in favor of holding a referendum on the issue. A Guardian poll, published in the paper on the same day as the editorial, established that 70 percent of the population believed that such a referendum should be held; 49 percent wanted to leave the union and 40 percent wanted to remain in it (11 percent were undecided).

One can make many criticisms of the Conservative Party, but surely one such criticism is not that 80 of its members of parliament have voiced the disquiet of at least half the nation’s population about the most important question that it faces. The Guardian called the 80 members of parliament “a disgrace,” by which it meant that the opinion of fully half of the population, and possibly more, should not even be heard in the Mother of Parliaments. In other words, the philosopher-kings of the European nomenklatura should be allowed to get on with their work free of interference—because, after all (and as new evidence further proves every day), they are doing such a fantastic job.

Theodore Dalrymple, a physician, is a contributing editor of City Journal and the Dietrich Weismann Fellow at the Manhattan Institute.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: eu; europeanunion; unitedkingdom; untiedkingdom

1 posted on 11/02/2011 11:17:14 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
The editorial was titled “Conservatives and Europe: learned nothing, forgotten nothing,” a reference to Talleyrand’s famous dictum about the Bourbons.

I thought he said it about the Hapsburgs instead.

2 posted on 11/02/2011 11:26:08 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: neverdem

Bump.


3 posted on 11/02/2011 11:38:10 PM PDT by dcwusmc (A FREE People have no sovereign save Almighty GOD!!! III OK We are EVERYWHERE!!!)
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To: lentulusgracchus
I thought he said it about the Hapsburgs instead.

I couldn't say offhand, so I did a search on "learned nothing, forgotten nothing" Talleyrand Bourbons. Then I replaced Bourbons with Hapsburgs. It's Bourbons using that search strategy.

4 posted on 11/03/2011 12:09:29 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

“The toes thou sawest was iron mixed with miry clay ... but they will not cling to one another even as iron does not mix with clay” - Daniel 2


5 posted on 11/03/2011 12:38:09 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: neverdem
Okay, thank you, my source quote must have been wrong.
6 posted on 11/03/2011 12:43:06 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: neverdem

I wonder if the author is any relation to Clay Dalrymple?


7 posted on 11/03/2011 12:49:37 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

Actually, it’s a pen name. His real name is A.M. Daniels.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theodore_Dalrymple


8 posted on 11/03/2011 12:56:52 AM PDT by tanuki (O-voters: wanted Uberman, got Underdog....)
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To: tanuki
Actually, it’s a pen name. His real name is A.M. Daniels.

Ahh... Like Barry Soetoro's "politican" name is "Barack Ubama".

9 posted on 11/03/2011 2:03:10 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: neverdem

I believe the Guardian is extreme left, and the Daily Mail, fairly conservative.


10 posted on 11/03/2011 2:09:30 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: neverdem
I wonder how long the Dutch will hang in with the EU. Both the socialists and the conservatives voted against membership in the initial referendum which was soundly (61.6%) defeated. The government then when back on its word (what else is new?) and ratified it anyway.

The Dutch referendum on the Treaty establishing a Constitution for Europe was a consultative referendum that was held on 1 June 2005 to decide if the Netherlands would ratify the proposed Constitution of the European Union. The vote was the first national referendum for over two hundred years, and was not binding on the government, meaning that despite the electorate rejecting the Constitution it could theoretically still be ratified by the States-General. The government did say, however, that it would abide by a decisive result, provided turnout exceeded 30%. Official results say that 61.6% of voters rejected the Constitution, on a turnout of 63.3%.
11 posted on 11/03/2011 2:15:32 AM PDT by expat1000
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To: neverdem

We should have a referendum on the global trade and the UN.


12 posted on 11/03/2011 8:47:08 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: neverdem

Remember twenty years ago when, according to the experts, the European Union was going to outperform the U.S.? I’m sure more than a few members are now wondering why they got into the whole thing. Especially the Germans.


13 posted on 11/03/2011 8:56:24 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: expat1000

That referendum was not about EU membership but about the EU “constitution”. The latter was prudently rejected. I doubt a majority of the Dutch want to leave the EU.


14 posted on 11/03/2011 8:57:35 AM PDT by Moltke (Always retaliate first.)
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To: driftless2
I’m sure more than a few members are now wondering why they got into the whole thing. Especially the Germans.

IMHO, it's similar to the moderates and independents mindlessly voting for Obama in 2008. They were on a guilt trip.

The German's, having the largest Gross Domestic Product in the European Union despite all of the destruction they caused in the last century, are on a super guilt trip!

15 posted on 11/03/2011 9:57:12 AM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: Lancey Howard

“Ahh... Like Barry Soetoro’s “politican” name is “Barack Ubama”.”

Hmmm... Good point!


16 posted on 11/03/2011 1:05:47 PM PDT by tanuki (O-voters: wanted Uberman, got Underdog....)
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