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Bachmann says all Americans should pay taxes
pioneer press ^ | 11-3-11 | Philip Elliott

Posted on 11/03/2011 6:39:14 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB

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To: Neoliberalnot
You seemed to have missed the point: she has rightfully suggested that all able-bodied citizens must pay something. She was not referring to those who already pay taxes. The fact that almost 50% pay no federal income taxes is the issue—get it. This is not sustainable. Which category are you in?

I understand what she's saying. And I assure you I already pay a goodly amount in income taxes. And while I would be highly likely to support a candidate who promised to lower my taxes I'd be very unlikely to vote for someone who promised to raise them. Why should I expect anyone else to be any different?

I don't disagree that the current system is broken and needs to be replaced. But I thought the point was to win the election so we could actually do that. So how will promising to raise most people's taxes accomplish that?

41 posted on 11/03/2011 10:17:49 AM PDT by SoJoCo
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To: SoJoCo

spread the base and lower the rates...nobody rides for free.


42 posted on 11/03/2011 11:25:25 AM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (See ya later, debt inflator ! Gone in 4 (2012))
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To: SoJoCo

If you want to win the election stop belittling all of Obuttface’s opponents. Keep in mind some common tactics used by the demrats—bo, his allies, soros, and the old media will smear-job every one of his opponents to split the opposition. The old media (his mouthpiece), hollywood, the parasites, unions, homos, anti-americans, and the muzzies will all vote bo no matter what. A minor split in the opposition hands bo the election. It’s pretty simple.

Good comment about spreading the base. Again, Bachmann said nothing about raising taxes on taxpayers—initiating taxes on the parasites is what she said. Bachmann is light years brighter than the organizer of community illiterates.


43 posted on 11/03/2011 1:29:20 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
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To: Neoliberalnot

“Your snide remarks are misdirected.”

My remarks were accurate and truthful. Two things that Mrs. Bachmann has problems with.


44 posted on 11/03/2011 1:50:04 PM PDT by Grunthor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0heL2Czeraw)
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To: merryandrew

Calling for EVERYONE to pay something does not make her a liberal, it makes her (for once) right.


45 posted on 11/03/2011 1:51:08 PM PDT by Grunthor (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0heL2Czeraw)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

A point-of-sale tax means the feds now have reason to observe, monitor, AND ADJUST _every_ purchase. You swipe your credit card, and already-available Orwellian technology kicks in. Cash aside (and it’s illegal where, Missouri? how long ‘til cash is eliminated by status quo and/or law?), any identifying factor can be used by the gov’t to do all kinds of outrages.
Sure, buy a $1.25 bottle of Coke. Within seconds, the federal computers get busy:
- a non-WIC food item is taxed more
- an “unhealthy” item is taxed even more
- your tax bracket is identified and the sales tax increased accordingly
- your ObamaCare file is checked to find you’re a borderline diabetic, so a discouraging surcharge is added, and a red flag added to your file
- product purchase history indicates you over-consume the product, further flagging your medical file and increasing tax to discourage you
- various “wanted” lists are consulted (hey, why not) to check if you’re presumed guilty of something
- purchase patterns are recorded and evaluated; deviations are investigated, perhaps notifying nearby police for immediate in-person review.

Careful what you wish for.
You might get it.


46 posted on 11/03/2011 2:05:08 PM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com/)
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To: Neoliberalnot
Again, Bachmann said nothing about raising taxes on taxpayers—initiating taxes on the parasites is what she said.

Well next to telling people that your going to raise their taxes, telling some guy trying to support a wife and a couple of kids on the median family income that he's a parasite has got to be nearly as bad a slogan to run on. I hope for her sake that you're not on her campaign strategy team.

47 posted on 11/03/2011 3:12:17 PM PDT by SoJoCo
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To: SoJoCo

She’s not saying anything about doubling or tripling anyone’s taxes.....she’s saying to the FREELOADERS to pay SOMETHING! Just guessing that you don’t pay any now.....but you SHOULD.....EVERYONE SHOULD.


48 posted on 11/03/2011 3:46:57 PM PDT by Ann Archy ( ABORTION...the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: SoJoCo

Well next to telling people that your going to raise their taxes, telling some guy trying to support a wife and a couple of kids on the median family income that he’s a parasite has got to be nearly as bad a slogan to run on. I hope for her sake that you’re not on her campaign strategy team.”

If you are sucking on the system that makes one a parasite. Sometimes truthful statements absent the sugar coating are painful, particularly when it gets personal. The parties are largely widely divided because we now have 50% not making a contribution and receiving the bennies (ie parasites) and the taxpayer paying his share and theirs.


49 posted on 11/03/2011 3:52:10 PM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
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50 posted on 11/03/2011 4:13:15 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Ann Archy
She’s not saying anything about doubling or tripling anyone’s taxes.....she’s saying to the FREELOADERS to pay SOMETHING!

If because of the deductions and credits currently available to the average family making the median income means that they don't pay income tax, then any increase Bachmann pushes for will be an increase, possibly a doubling or tripling. And calling an average family making the median income 'freeloaders' is also not a good way to get them to back your candidate.

Just guessing that you don’t pay any now.....

I wish. As it is I pay far more than I'd like to in income taxes.

...but you SHOULD.....EVERYONE SHOULD.

I'm not arguing that they shouldn't. I'm just pointing out that running on a promise to raise most people's income taxes is not a strategy that will likely lead to victory.

51 posted on 11/03/2011 5:58:27 PM PDT by SoJoCo
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To: Neoliberalnot
If you are sucking on the system that makes one a parasite.

If I'm out there busting my hump trying to provide for my wife and kids on the median family income then I doubt I feel much like a parasite. I guess it all depends on ones point of view.

52 posted on 11/03/2011 6:00:31 PM PDT by SoJoCo
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To: WOBBLY BOB

I agree!

Everyone pays, or nobody pays!


53 posted on 11/03/2011 6:39:35 PM PDT by Randy Larsen (Hang in there Herman, conservatives love you!)
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To: merryandrew
How do they collect the income-tax "9"? Politely ask everybody what their income was last year and just take their word for it?

I've raised the same point. And to continue, how do you collect sales taxes from businesses without verifying that they aren't doing significant sales under the table? And how do you verify businesses are paying the proper business taxes?
55 posted on 11/04/2011 6:51:59 AM PDT by DTxAg
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To: SoJoCo

No, all you have do is a pay your fair share.


56 posted on 11/04/2011 8:06:31 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
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57 posted on 11/04/2011 8:07:54 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Neoliberalnot
No, all you have do is a pay your fair share.

That's what Obama says when he talks about raising taxes on those with the highest incomes.

58 posted on 11/04/2011 8:11:25 AM PDT by SoJoCo
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To: SoJoCo

We are not on the same page. The rich already pay their share—why should they pay more for the same services? Maybe we should pay $5/gal of milk and those bad old people with more than we got should pay $1000/liter. You need to swallow your envy kid—it is a virtue only to a prog. The reason we have this mess is the parasites who pay nothing. I am beginning to think of you as the FR obamamite.


59 posted on 11/04/2011 8:32:29 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
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To: Neoliberalnot
I think most here can all agree those 40+ % who pay nothing in income tax are not paying their fair share.
60 posted on 11/04/2011 12:56:42 PM PDT by WOBBLY BOB (See ya later, debt inflator ! Gone in 4 (2012))
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