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Fred Thompson: Who Dropped the Dime on Cain?
National Review Online ^ | November 3, 2011 | Fred Thompson

Posted on 11/03/2011 12:31:01 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

......Days after I got into the presidential race in 2007, I was greeted with a website, “PhoneyFred.org,” described in the media at the time as an “anti Fred Thompson smear site.” You couldn’t really tell who was behind it, but we learned of it from the Democratic National Committee, which made ample use of it. We assumed that they had created it. However, a reporter at the Washington Post (of all people) decided to find out who was behind the site. After a lot of effort, she traced it to an executive of TTS Strategies, a South Carolina consulting firm run by J. Warren Tompkins, one of the most notorious hardball political operatives in the country.

Politicians of opposing campaigns were known to get what was called the “Warren Treatment.” He ran George W. Bush’s 2000 campaign, in which anonymous flyers and telephone calls accused John McCain of fathering an illegitimate child with a black woman.

In 2007, he was running Mitt Romney’s campaign in South Carolina, where Mitt was behind the rest of us in the polls. Of course, when confronted, both Tompkins and Mitt were “shocked” to learn that a rogue employee (who ran Tompkins’s office) was running such a website (out of the office), and the site was taken down immediately. One of the more benign and amusing things the site accused me of was being a “flip flopper.” I kid you not.

This doesn’t mean that Mitt is behind the Herman Cain hit piece. I’d like to think that he — and his extensive staff, many of them with training in the “political dark arts” — has learned....

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cain; deviousperry; fredthompson; gopprimary; herbcain; hermancain; perryastroturfing; perrydidit; politics; romney; sexscandal; thompson; zots4romneybots
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1 posted on 11/03/2011 12:31:03 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: All; shield
Why not Mitt? Take 2 out with one hit.

"I'm running for office for Pete's sake!"

That's -- I'm running for office, for Pete's sake, I can't have illegals. [video clip] -- Mitt Romney, GOP presidential debate - October 18, 2011 - Las Vegas, NV

Rudy Giuliani asked Mitt Romney the same question in the 2008 CNN debate that Rick Perry asked him during the CNN 2011 debate -- Mitt lost it both times.

Nov 28, 2008 CNN-YouTube Debate: Sound familiar? [LOOK who interrupts whom!!]

Funny Accent

PDF: Romney's disclosure form [inc. long list of his stock holdings including Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac] Romney pummels, profits from Fannie, Freddie

And for the Gardasil "innocent little girls" Crowd," Romney holds Stock in Merck & Co.

2 posted on 11/03/2011 12:33:46 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

My money’s on Mitt


3 posted on 11/03/2011 12:35:42 PM PDT by evad (STOP SPENDING, STOP SPENDING, STOP SPENDING. It's the SPENDING Stupid)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Fred, you broke my heart in 2008. We all know Perry is behind this. CW is in panic mode right now.


4 posted on 11/03/2011 12:37:46 PM PDT by catfish1957 (A politican with a heart usually means they have one hand in our pocketbooks!!!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I will start. Give me a “P”...P. Give me a “E”....E. Give me a “R”...R. give me a “R”...R. give me a “Y”...Y. What does that spell? PERRY! What? PERRY! Easy to figure this out.


5 posted on 11/03/2011 12:38:28 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: evad

Mine too. I remember Romney’s misleading ads about Huckaby.


6 posted on 11/03/2011 12:39:19 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: evad

Nope, I think it was Newt. He is defending his friend Herm today. How conveeeeeeeeeeeeeeniet!


7 posted on 11/03/2011 12:39:21 PM PDT by LottieDah (If only those who speak so eloquently on behalf of animals would do so on behalf of the unborn.)
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To: catfish1957
Is that why Block and Cain are back peddling on their accusations?
8 posted on 11/03/2011 12:39:54 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: catfish1957

Since then, Fred has been pushing the national popular vote and destroyed what little credibility he had left.


9 posted on 11/03/2011 12:40:14 PM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a permanent Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

In 2007, he was running Mitt Romney’s campaign in South Carolina, where Mitt was behind the rest of us in the polls.
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In 2011, ..... Mitt is behind the rest of them in the polls.


10 posted on 11/03/2011 12:41:50 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I wonder - since Mr. Cain has said that this came up in his preparation for the Senate campaign in 2004 - was the issue raised then? Or was he merely preparing to address it if it did?


11 posted on 11/03/2011 12:42:01 PM PDT by bigbob
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Good piece, thanks for posting it.


12 posted on 11/03/2011 12:42:08 PM PDT by palmer (Before reading this post, please send me $2.50)
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To: LottieDah
Nope, I think it was Newt. He is defending his friend Herm today. How conveeeeeeeeeeeeeeniet!

Newt needs to keep Herm viable through the cash bar debate in the Woodlands (Houston) this Saturday.

13 posted on 11/03/2011 12:42:13 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: napscoordinator
Cain camp backs off Perry charge as new payout details emerge

Cain chief-of-staff walks back Perry accusations

14 posted on 11/03/2011 12:42:47 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“He ran George W. Bush’s 2000 campaign, in which anonymous flyers and telephone calls accused John McCain of fathering an illegitimate child with a black woman.”

That is simply not true.

The Bush campaign would not and did not do such a thing.


15 posted on 11/03/2011 12:43:15 PM PDT by trumandogz (In Rick Perry's Nanny State, the state will drive your kids to the dentist at tax payer expense)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Nope. Never heard of J. Warren Tompkins. Or of this Cain story. hehehe ... did you just pinch my butt?

16 posted on 11/03/2011 12:45:26 PM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: normy

Dropped the dime on Cain...lol. Guess the Cain folks were unsuccessful keeping this hidden under wraps. I think sunshine is a good thing.


17 posted on 11/03/2011 12:45:46 PM PDT by magritte
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Don’t forget the obligatory hat tip to the grand-daddy of dirty politics in the modern age - Tricky Dick Nixon.


18 posted on 11/03/2011 12:46:16 PM PDT by ASOC (What are you doing now that Mexico has become OUR Chechnya?)
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To: normy

Yeah, I just noticed that on another thread. Truth is we’ve got the three stooges as a choice for GOP this year. Somehow someway, we need to get DeMint or Palin in the race.


19 posted on 11/03/2011 12:46:16 PM PDT by catfish1957 (A politican with a heart usually means they have one hand in our pocketbooks!!!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
That's right, CW .... if your guy is the guilty party, then the safest place for you is at the head of the lynch mob, leading the dogs and torches.
20 posted on 11/03/2011 12:46:49 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; All
Nope, I think it was Newt. He is defending his friend Herm today. How conveeeeeeeeeeeeeeniet!
Newt needs to keep Herm viable through the cash bar debate in the Woodlands (Houston) this Saturday.


You're just upset that Governor Mumbles wasn't invited.
21 posted on 11/03/2011 12:46:55 PM PDT by mkjessup (I stand with Herman Cain, a God-fearing, Jesus-loving, Constitution-honoring PATRIOT.)
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To: bigbob

good question! He has run before?


22 posted on 11/03/2011 12:47:04 PM PDT by GoCards (I am a Hobbit)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Who was the, Perry employee, Wilson working for back then.????


23 posted on 11/03/2011 12:48:48 PM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Nothing but silence about Mitt?

Interesting.


24 posted on 11/03/2011 12:50:51 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Pretty interesting thoughts from a man who has “been to the rodeo.” But he let’s Cain off way too easy for publicly and loudly accusing the Perry campaign, and then totally backing away from that the very next day. That to me is almost as disgraceful as leaking the story, or maybe even worse.


25 posted on 11/03/2011 12:52:02 PM PDT by Huck (TAX TEA NOW==SUPPORT 9-9-9!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Why would Romney want to damage his VP candidate like this? After all you and the rest of the Perry brigade have repeatedly said that Cain was only in this to be Romney’s VP.

You Perry shills are really pathetic.


26 posted on 11/03/2011 12:52:29 PM PDT by CSI007
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To: Huck

let’s=lets. ugh.


27 posted on 11/03/2011 12:52:39 PM PDT by Huck (TAX TEA NOW==SUPPORT 9-9-9!)
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To: trumandogz

The Bush campaign put some flyers out on McCain about something. I remember McCain going crazier than normal.


28 posted on 11/03/2011 12:53:10 PM PDT by Terry Mross (Where is the OPPOSITION party? I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: catfish1957
Somehow someway, we need to get DeMint or Palin in the race.

Oldest and best way are the same ...... brokered convention, nobody has more than a plurality, and then .....

STAMMMMPEEEEEEEDE!!

The beauty of it is, the MSM "Oppo" Liebot operations won't have any time to prepare to smear whomever the GOP nominates, and so the nominee will have a precious window of hours, maybe even a day, to define himself or herself anew, without the MoDo or HateyKatie or DrunkenDiane treatment.

29 posted on 11/03/2011 12:53:40 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: catfish1957; Cincinatus' Wife
Fred, you broke my heart in 2008. We all know Perry is behind this. CW is in panic mode right now.

He broke my heart too.

I'm a Cain guy, and I bust on wifey all the time, but tell me just how do we "know" that anita's boi toy is behind this?

If his campaign started the leak, and some one can prove it OK, but I've not seen proof.

I really don't care if it was perry, mittens or the demnoRATS, {which I doubt, because they would have held it until they saw if Herman was going to win the nomination, before dropping the story} but I'm glad it's out now and not November 2012.

Herman either will or will not overcome these allegations, and if he does, whatever doesn't kill him will make him stronger.

Cheer up, the election is a year away.

30 posted on 11/03/2011 12:54:29 PM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the Terrorists Savages)
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To: cripplecreek
Since then, Fred has been pushing the national popular vote and destroyed what little credibility he had left.

Seriously? That's pathetic. It's bad enough watching him push reverse mortgages to seniors on infomercials.

31 posted on 11/03/2011 12:56:27 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Gov Jan Brewer has more balls than Rick Perry.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Nothing but silence about Mitt?

That's what he deserves.

32 posted on 11/03/2011 12:57:16 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

All I know is, is that the Dimocrats are loving this. They think the real black man is in trouble and will not be of harm to their half & half in the House in the hood. This is going to hurt with a lot of folks. Cause folks to lose faith in Mr. Cain. If it was going to happen to him, better now than later, like the night before the election when GWB’s DUI came out. At least if he survives this, he has time to heal it before the elections begin. I am still in his side. I hate Romney and Perry and will not vote for either.


33 posted on 11/03/2011 12:57:25 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (As the End Times draws near, remember the Bible WARNED of these times. Be ready!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I think 0bama’s supporters would read this thread and the comments and be very happy. Their strategy is working beautifully. We egg on our candidates to tear each other apart, and 0bama gets a free pass to campaign on our tax dollars.


34 posted on 11/03/2011 12:58:45 PM PDT by henkster
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To: CSI007
.......Cain was only in this to be Romney’s VP.

I guess Cain just got the boot.

Like Cain who won't find it in himself to question Romney's possible involvement (always taking his anger out on Perry), many posters here on FR will continue their coordinated assault against Rick Perry and anyone who supports him.

35 posted on 11/03/2011 12:59:12 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: catfish1957
I got a big problem with some people here on FR and that problem is as soon as someone doesn't kiss their candidates ass they call him a Rino.

Jim DeMint was called one not long ago and that pissed me off and opened my eyes that a certain sect on FR are waaaay into the cult of personality thing here.

We'll get so narrow as a party we'll be crushed in November.

36 posted on 11/03/2011 12:59:57 PM PDT by normy (Don't take it personally, just take it seriously.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"Black ops", pure and simple. They snipe from behind trees then run off in the dark of the night. The candidates they work for smile and laugh it off in a phony mantra of plausible deniability.

So help me, I am going to get (expose) those sonsabitches.

37 posted on 11/03/2011 1:02:32 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (No GOP Nominee Who Trashed Herman Cain By Vicious Smears Can Expect My Vote In The General Election.)
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To: ASOC
Don’t forget the obligatory hat tip to the grand-daddy of dirty politics in the modern age - Tricky Dick Nixon.

Sorry, but I think that one's interred with Drew Pearson's lying body ..... even in death, he still lies. It was his genius, to defend his fellow-traveling Communists against their detractors by smearing critics viciously, even taking hits from libel judgments and then going right back to lying about people. He was absolutely dedicated to lying.

38 posted on 11/03/2011 1:07:39 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It’s logical that it’s Mitt since Cain has been passing up Mitt in the polls. Who stands to benefit most from Cain gettng trashed?


39 posted on 11/03/2011 1:07:42 PM PDT by Aria ( "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.")
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To: cripplecreek
Since then, Fred has been pushing the national popular vote and destroyed what little credibility he had left.

When I read he supported NPV I was dismayed. One CANNOT be a Conservative and support NPV.

For Fred to not see the utter evil of NPV tells me his is an idiot. To think I gave that fool money when he was running.

40 posted on 11/03/2011 1:08:53 PM PDT by sand88
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To: AmericanInTokyo
So help me, I am going to get (expose) those sonsabitches.

I'm with you!

41 posted on 11/03/2011 1:09:31 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
many posters here on FR will continue their coordinated assault

The only thing "coordinating" my criticism of Goodhair is you endless, up-at-dawn and post-past-midnight Perryposting.

Five o'clock in the morning! On a Sunday!

42 posted on 11/03/2011 1:11:42 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Concealed carry is a pro-life position.)
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To: Terry Mross
The Bush campaign put some flyers out on McCain about something

I remember a debate where GW showed a flyer to McCain, saying that they were put on cars around the area. McCain said that he had nothing to do with it. GW then asked McCain why his name was on the bottom of the flyer. "McCain for President".

W had him dead on as McCain sputtered another denial.

McCain was busted playing the same games he accused W of. It was a very cool scene.

43 posted on 11/03/2011 1:11:56 PM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Ha ha—a little score settling from Fred.


44 posted on 11/03/2011 1:12:45 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: submarinerswife

You’re right. Now I remember. Thanks for reminding me.

So, why is Thompson lying?


45 posted on 11/03/2011 1:15:51 PM PDT by Terry Mross (Where is the OPPOSITION party? I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: ASOC

Tipping my hat to Nixon, and to one of his zaniest black ops guys, G. Gordon Liddy. I just read Liddy’s autobiography recently, and he was the master of dirty tricks.

Too bad he got caught!


46 posted on 11/03/2011 1:19:45 PM PDT by Palladin (Newt/?)
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To: lentulusgracchus
......up-at-dawn and post-past-midnight Perryposting.

I don't post at night -- early yes!

47 posted on 11/03/2011 1:20:17 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: lentulusgracchus

Drew is a legend.

MY point was the use of disinformation and dirty tricks that Nixon was infamous for using.

Nixon is used as an example in the wiki entry, for example.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dirty_tricks


48 posted on 11/03/2011 1:22:33 PM PDT by ASOC (What are you doing now that Mexico has become OUR Chechnya?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Who benefits? Mitt benefits the most. The Dems also benefit — if Mitt gets the nomination, some conservatives will be disheartened enough to stay home or go third party.


49 posted on 11/03/2011 1:22:50 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Civilization is unnatural. It is a whim of circumstance. Barbarism must always ultimately triumph.)
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To: submarinerswife
There have been a lot of charges about a smear campaign against McCain in South Carolina, but nobody's been able to trace it back to Bush.

McCain was busted playing the same games he accused W of. It was a very cool scene.

McCain put out a negative flier about Bush's tax plan at a time when McCain was condemning negative advertising and Bush called him on it.

That's something, but negative comments about somebody's record and personal attacks aren't the same thing.

50 posted on 11/03/2011 1:29:54 PM PDT by x
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