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Boehner: Debt deal will include new tax revenues
CBS NEWS ^ | November 3,2011

Posted on 11/03/2011 4:25:58 PM PDT by Hojczyk

"I think there is room for revenues, but I think there clearly is a limit to the amount of revenues that are available," Boehner told reporters.

"What I was attempting to do," he said, grinning, "was to suggest that Mr. Norquist, like millions of Americans, believes that raising taxes is not good for our economy."

Boehner insisted that Republicans would only compromise on tax revenue if Democrats were willing to take significant and painful steps to shore up Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security. "Without real reform on the entitlement side, I don't know how you put any revenue on the table."

"I didn't agree to set this thing up with any idea that it wouldn't succeed," he said. "And I've been clear with everyone through this process that we have to meet the goal. I'd love to exceed the goal. But we have to meet the goal and I'm going to put every effort in to make sure that we do."

So what's holding up the talks? "It's the same conversation that's been going on all year," Boehner said. "They want more revenue than what we're willing to give, and they're not willing to do as much entitlement reform as we'd like to do." He indicated that he has been heavily involved in the minutiae of debt negotiations. "There's all kinds of discussions and permutations and models. I've seen more models than I can count about how you can do this. A lot of possibilities

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: 112th; bho44; boehner; boehnerdebtbill; boehnertaxes; hikes; rino; rinos4obama; socialist; tax
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1 posted on 11/03/2011 4:26:00 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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2 posted on 11/03/2011 4:26:25 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Hojczyk

It will be taxes now and spending cuts in 2050


3 posted on 11/03/2011 4:26:58 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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To: musicman

Democrats, “Look the Republicans wants tax increases”


4 posted on 11/03/2011 4:28:44 PM PDT by molson209
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To: Hojczyk

Fire every single one of these clowns and start from scratch.

Provisional military government for 6 months, then new elections for all congressional seats and the WH, incumbents need not apply, strict term limits.

Only tax paying citizens and veterans are enfranchised in the new Republic.

All amendments other than the original bill of rights are repealed.

“Dueling” legalized within Washington DC limits.

Problem solved


5 posted on 11/03/2011 4:30:30 PM PDT by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: Hojczyk

Raising tax rates, or imposing new taxes, is not at all the same thing as increasing revenue.

The very fastest way to raise revenue is to remove the boot at the throat of the US economy, and that could be accomplished practically overnight with shutting down EPA and repealing the badly misnamed “Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act”, passed with such enthusiasm only a couple of years ago.

Uncertainty about the future of the US economy would disappear quickly, and nothing would release the pent-up energy like taking away the restraints.


6 posted on 11/03/2011 4:39:00 PM PDT by alloysteel (Are Democrats truly "better angels"? They are lousy stewards for America.)
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To: Hojczyk
Boehner's a liar!

Boehner: No tax hikes for super committee

7 posted on 11/03/2011 4:40:18 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Don't Tread on Me!)
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To: Hojczyk
"They want more revenue than what we're willing to give, and they're not willing to do as much entitlement reform as we'd like to do."

Dear John,

Are we using the Democrats language now? Revenue=increased taxes? Are you personally giving these 'revenues', John? Who is the 'we' that you are talking about? How much will my taxes (oops, revenue contributions) increase just to pay my portion of the Solyndra slush fund? Or any of the EPA handouts of my hard earned money?

I'm over you. I can't distinguish you from the other molesters in DC anymore.

And I thought you cared. Were those just crocodile tears?

8 posted on 11/03/2011 4:41:21 PM PDT by arkady_renko (I want to believe.)
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To: arkady_renko

Is anyone opposing Boner in the primaries? There has to be someone we can support against this clown.


9 posted on 11/03/2011 4:45:36 PM PDT by Outraged At FLA
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To: musicman

Boehner is wearing RINO dung camouflage on his face when he lip-syncs the lying promise of no new taxes.

This is what you get when you vote into political office a RINO who promises to be a conservative.


10 posted on 11/03/2011 4:46:54 PM PDT by JohnBrownUSA (Don't Tread On America!)
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To: Rome2000

You would repeal the 13th Amendment?


11 posted on 11/03/2011 4:47:07 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: arkady_renko; Outraged At FLA

Because Boehner keeps mentioning “revenue” it just might be possible that he is talking about a “statically” scored revenue neutral “flatter” income tax that, when dynamic effects are considered, would produce more revenue. We’ll see.


12 posted on 11/03/2011 4:51:17 PM PDT by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: Timber Rattler

Bonehead has always been a DC Hack. He along with any GOP that votes for it should go.

But he will pass it like he did before, with RAT votes.


13 posted on 11/03/2011 4:51:48 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: achilles2000

I hope you are right.


14 posted on 11/03/2011 4:53:13 PM PDT by arkady_renko (I want to believe.)
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To: Hojczyk

same old same old

Boehner sees that it is likely that Cain will implode and Mitt Romney will become President. Thus he doesn’t really have to pretend to be a conservative anymore. Instead of Philadelphia freedom he has RINO freedom now. If Cain doesn’t get his act together expect to see more of this crap.


15 posted on 11/03/2011 4:53:51 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: achilles2000

Yep


16 posted on 11/03/2011 4:54:40 PM PDT by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: achilles2000

I did not know you could channel Boneheads thoughts.

Why doesn’t Bonehead explain what he means?


17 posted on 11/03/2011 4:56:23 PM PDT by tennmountainman
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To: Hojczyk

18 posted on 11/03/2011 4:57:58 PM PDT by VRWC For Truth (Throw the bums out who vote yes on the bailout)
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To: Timber Rattler

The skunk ! Nov. 2010 was a message, could not have been any more clear.

Boehner is a follower. Going along to get along. Disgusting.

zer0 is more important than us.

So, Boehner, drop the Republican label, make it official. You have outed your self rat, take the knife from my back when you go.


19 posted on 11/03/2011 5:01:02 PM PDT by reefdiver ("Let His day's be few And another takes His office")
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To: Hojczyk

Looks like we have more rinos to get rid of.

Wow, talk about stupidity. Didn’t anyone get the message we sent them last November???


20 posted on 11/03/2011 5:01:11 PM PDT by thatjoeguy (Wind is just air, but pushier.)
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To: molson209

Republicans go out of their way to earn the title the Stupid Party...fire this joker at the next election..Raising taxes on business is a raise in taxes on taxpayers...I am learning to to go from disgust to hate and hate takes up a lot of energy. It takes a backbone in the house and looks like the crying Boener/sp doesn’t have any..


21 posted on 11/03/2011 5:01:57 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: VRWC For Truth
What an Idiot

Is he a kid who draws two aces and can't handle it and play it close to the vest, no he tells everyone at the table he now has two aces.

22 posted on 11/03/2011 5:02:27 PM PDT by scooby321
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To: Rome2000
"Only tax paying citizens and veterans are enfranchised in the new Republic."

Most of the "tax paying citizens" get their incomes directly or indirectly (services, contractors, etc.) from the various levels of government. Big revenues into 'em, little revenues out. That's no way to have an economy that will continue.

On to default. Starve the b.


23 posted on 11/03/2011 5:03:01 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: Hojczyk
It will be taxes now and spending cuts in 2050

Or like every other "deal", taxes now and spending cuts never.

Reagan fell for it.
Bush 41 fell for it.
Never again.

I'll make this deal: tax increases across the board (i.e. everyone is affected, not just the "rich"). I'll even offer a number: a 10% increase.

The catch? Two of them, actually:

  1. A balanced budget amendment.
  2. A separate amendment limiting federal spending to 20% of GDP.

When those amendments are ratified and enabling legislation is enacted and implemented now (not some time in the future), I'll consider a tax increase.

24 posted on 11/03/2011 5:03:36 PM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: Rome2000
"Fire every single one of these clowns and start from scratch.

Provisional military government for 6 months, then new elections for all congressional seats and the WH, incumbents need not apply, strict term limits.

Only tax paying citizens and veterans are enfranchised in the new Republic.

All amendments other than the original bill of rights are repealed."

YOU'VE GOT MY VOTE ! “Dueling” legalized within Washington DC limits.

Problem solved

25 posted on 11/03/2011 5:06:11 PM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Rome2000
"Fire every single one of these clowns and start from scratch.

Provisional military government for 6 months, then new elections for all congressional seats and the WH, incumbents need not apply, strict term limits.

Only tax paying citizens and veterans are enfranchised in the new Republic.

All amendments other than the original bill of rights are repealed."

YOU'VE GOT MY VOTE ! “Dueling” legalized within Washington DC limits.

Problem solved

26 posted on 11/03/2011 5:06:36 PM PDT by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: Outraged At FLA

Seems someone should step forward and announce that he/she is taking this rino on. Time for a new guard to emerge before its too late.


27 posted on 11/03/2011 5:07:53 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: Hojczyk

Want more revenue Dems?

Eliminate the Earned Income Tax Credit.


28 posted on 11/03/2011 5:08:59 PM PDT by mrsmith
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To: Hojczyk

Republicans are tax-hiking lefties, because that’s what their most influential constituents want. It comes with “progressivism” (feminism, etc.). Stop personal spending. Become more independent. Starve the b.


29 posted on 11/03/2011 5:10:01 PM PDT by familyop ("Wanna cigarette? You're never too young to start." --Deacon, "Waterworld")
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To: Hojczyk

Wow. Talk about lose-lose. The Republicans will blow off their base by agreeing to Democrat tax hikes while at the same time taking the blame for forcing cuts in medicare and social security.

How in God’s name can Republican “leaders” be
so
freaking
stupid?


30 posted on 11/03/2011 5:10:24 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Hojczyk

The Republicans are not only going to forfeit the Senate, they are going to lose the House.


31 posted on 11/03/2011 5:11:21 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Hojczyk

I never have a good feeling when I know Boehner’s in on the deal.

We need a new Speaker desparately. And a new Senate Majority Leader.


32 posted on 11/03/2011 5:12:18 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn ( White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: Hojczyk

If the GOP succumbs to this, they are dead.

No one liked this super committee in the first place.

This is the reason why.

Boehner should step down. He is useless.


33 posted on 11/03/2011 5:12:52 PM PDT by dforest
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To: achilles2000

That may be true, but we are talking Boehner here.


34 posted on 11/03/2011 5:14:37 PM PDT by dforest
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To: arkady_renko

Exactly! He using the word “revenues” instead of “taxes”. You know which side he’s on. Will we ever have control of the Republican party?


35 posted on 11/03/2011 5:17:18 PM PDT by teg_76
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To: Hojczyk

With this kind of Republican crap the Republican Senate Committee still has the nerve to ask me for money. Pox on their houses...My donations go ONLY to Conservatives...directly.


36 posted on 11/03/2011 5:20:11 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Rome2000

Fire every single one of these clowns and start from scratch.

We say this every year before the election and then when the election comes around everyone is like we HAVE to elect the Republican who is on the ballot. It is an endless cycle......until we get serious and seriously vote these folks out we will just complain and complain but do nothing to really get rid of people.


37 posted on 11/03/2011 5:23:38 PM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: Hojczyk
Okay you BOZO's.....All of you!! D's and R's!!

You have taken American's money for how many years now????

And you have drove our country into the ditch. Some $16 TRILLION dollars in DEBT!!??

And you guy's want us to trust you!?!?!?!

We don't!!

And you all better start figuring that out.

38 posted on 11/03/2011 5:26:35 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Si Vis Pacem, Para Bellum)
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To: plain talk

“If Cain doesn’t get his act together expect to see more of this crap.”
____________________________________________________

So in your world, a slime job by a left-wing rag means Cain not having his act together. Politico must be high-fiving each other. They must laugh their a$$es thinking: “it can’t be this easy!”


39 posted on 11/03/2011 5:28:37 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: Artcore

Uh no. I am talking about Cain’s flailing response to the attacks.


40 posted on 11/03/2011 5:37:01 PM PDT by plain talk
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To: Hojczyk

ya’ll can bitch at my boy John but so far his actions speak loader than your words..... he’s been rock solid.


41 posted on 11/03/2011 5:43:15 PM PDT by mike_9958
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To: napscoordinator
"...until we get serious and seriously vote these folks out we will just complain and complain but do nothing to really get rid of people."

Is it safe to assume you've run for at least "precinct delegate"?

42 posted on 11/03/2011 6:06:39 PM PDT by LZ_Bayonet ( I AM THE TEA PARTY LEADER !)
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To: Hojczyk

Boehner is an ineffective nitwit. A perfect example of the “go along to get along, reach across the aisle” ineptitude demonstrated consistently by the Nelson Rockefeller/RINO wing of the GOP. Boehner, along with many other of his fellow RINOs, need to be let out to pasture at the earliest opportunity.


43 posted on 11/03/2011 6:13:10 PM PDT by Czar (NRA Life Member)
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To: Rome2000

Your suggestions don’t address the real issue. Half of the people in this country are socialists. We need for half the country to secede and start over the deadbeats will migrate out and the productive will migrate in. It’s the only way.


44 posted on 11/03/2011 6:17:14 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Hojczyk

Finally got those tea party extremist under control,we can go back to go along to get along!I can snuggle up with Nancy on the couch,she’s so hot!


45 posted on 11/03/2011 7:00:52 PM PDT by bonehead4freedom
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To: mike_9958

46 posted on 11/03/2011 7:32:14 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Hojczyk

NO, HELL NO! Not a single penny more.


47 posted on 11/03/2011 8:16:03 PM PDT by Vietnam Vet From New Mexico (Pray For Our Troops)
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To: Hojczyk

T.E.A.

RINOS (Republicans Implementing Nuances Of Socialism)

/heads


48 posted on 11/03/2011 9:01:29 PM PDT by PGalt
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To: musicman

Tax Soros, Buffet and all the other limo-commie billionairs into the back yard shed. That would be “taxing the rich.”


49 posted on 11/03/2011 10:20:25 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Czar
Putting the RINOs out to pasture would be better served:
1. Tree
2. Rope
3. Assembly required
4. Repeat

The nicest part is you don't have to pay them pensions or give them medical care. The solution also works on Donkeys.

50 posted on 11/03/2011 11:09:12 PM PDT by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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