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Osama bin Laden 'was dead in 90 seconds'
telegraph.co.uk ^

Posted on 11/03/2011 4:57:14 PM PDT by Sub-Driver

Osama bin Laden 'was dead in 90 seconds'

A controversial new account of the killing of Osama bin Laden has challenged the official story of the how the al-Qaeda leader died during the raid on his Pakistani hideout in May.

By Jon Swaine, New York

9:41PM GMT 03 Nov 2011

Chuck Pfarrer, a former commander of US Navy SEAL Team Six, whose members carried out the assault, claims bin Laden was shot dead almost instantly rather than killed in a 45-minute firefight.

Claiming to have interviewed several men involved in the raid, Pfarrer also contradicted the official account of how the SEAL team landed and how one of their Black Hawk helicopters crashed.

"The SEALs entered the building after being deposited on the roof by the lead helicopter, not from the ground," Pfarrer said in a statement about the book.

"Only minutes after bin Laden was dead did the lead helicopter, heading for a landing spot, lose altitude and sink, tail-first, into the large walled enclosure east of the main house." Pfarrer explains that if the SEALs had been forced to climb stairs to reach bin Laden, as has been officially claimed, he would have had enough warning to arm and effectively defend himself.

"Bin Laden was dead within 90 seconds of the beginning of the raid, not after an extended firefight," Pfrarrer said. "Four suppressed rounds were fired".

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 90seconds; navyseals; osamabinladen
Hmm, conflicting accounts?
1 posted on 11/03/2011 4:57:15 PM PDT by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

I’m much more inclined to believe this version than that of the Obummer white house.


2 posted on 11/03/2011 4:59:27 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound (.)
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To: Sub-Driver

With all the money Bin Laden had, I was surprised he didnt have some labyrinthine tunnel under the complex. Good guys storm the complex, he drops down a tube under the complex, crawls away to adjacent house, gets away in true 007-villain fashion.


3 posted on 11/03/2011 5:03:01 PM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: Retired Greyhound; Sub-Driver

I know these are secret operations. Maybe there’s some sort of classified issue with this account over the other?


4 posted on 11/03/2011 5:04:43 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Sub-Driver
Hmm, conflicting accounts?

Perry's fault.

5 posted on 11/03/2011 5:05:47 PM PDT by chesty_puller (Viet Nam 1970-71 He who shed blood with me shall forever be my brother. Shak.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Frankly, the only thing I care about in all this is this, HE’S DEAD. That is all I care about. I don’t care if it took 15 minutes or 15 seconds. The scum of Izzlum is DEAD!


6 posted on 11/03/2011 5:09:57 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (As the End Times draws near, remember the Bible WARNED of these times. Be ready!)
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To: Sub-Driver

He was dead in three seconds in 2004.


7 posted on 11/03/2011 5:14:18 PM PDT by angcat (NEW YORK YANKEES!)
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To: Sub-Driver

I don’t believe that members of “Seal Team Six” would be telling anyone anything.


8 posted on 11/03/2011 5:17:03 PM PDT by bitterohiogunclinger (Proudly casting a heavy carbon footprint as I clean my guns ---)
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To: Sub-Driver

Remember that picture of the zero sitting in the corner like an unhappy little punk?

My theory is that a few minutes before that picture was taken he was on his direct hotline to Bin Laden telling him to get out, that the Seals were on the way in to get him (SEAL’s having made the decision to go in on their own authority).

A few weeks later, the helicopter the SEALs were on goes down killing all aboard. Zero’s revenge was to take the entire SEAL team out.


9 posted on 11/03/2011 5:23:46 PM PDT by Newtoidaho (Fight organized crime. Vote out all incumbent Democrats!)
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To: bitterohiogunclinger

>> I don’t believe that members of “Seal Team Six” would be telling anyone anything.

+1
Those who know, don’t talk; those who talk, don’t know.


10 posted on 11/03/2011 5:25:11 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: Sub-Driver
I'm still not convinced OBL is dead. Where's the evidence? 3000 people killed by being burned alive, crushed to atoms, falling almost half a mile and we do not want to offend Muslims by showing the body of the POS responsible ??? I trust this administration as much as I trust a crack whore selling me the Brooklyn bridge. Like hell. This foreign dooshbag who has been tagged as POTUS can't even show us any evidence if he was even in the country for the past 20 years, and we are taking his word that OBL is dead? That a photo of the body is MORE offensive that THIS???.......


11 posted on 11/03/2011 5:27:18 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Mark Halperin - Learned the hard way what happens when you speak the truth on PMSNBC.)
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To: angcat; Sub-Driver

He was dead in Dec 2001.


12 posted on 11/03/2011 5:34:43 PM PDT by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
Of course you noticed the delicate manner in which the Qaddafi execution was presented so as not to offend the highly sensitive muslims./S
13 posted on 11/03/2011 5:35:40 PM PDT by TsonicTsunami08
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To: Soothesayer9
I was amused to see the roads....which all led to the complex. They might as well have marked it "Rome".

What pi**** me was that they killed the messenger. We probably promised him a million bucks.

And I'm even more pi**** that our soldiers had to participate at a muslim funeral. And you think Obama isn't a muslim??

14 posted on 11/03/2011 5:36:57 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sub-Driver

We know he’s dead because he just registered to vote in chicago.


15 posted on 11/03/2011 5:45:20 PM PDT by Johnny B.
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To: Sub-Driver
Claiming to have interviewed several men involved in the raid, Pfarrer also contradicted the official account of how the SEAL team landed and how one of their Black Hawk helicopters crashed.

True SEALS and SPECOPS types don't talk about their missions other than to the official J-2/G-2 Debriefer. Anyone else gets told NOTHING! True SEALS SPECOP personnel don't brag or tell tales.

16 posted on 11/03/2011 5:46:43 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: angcat

Xacly. No corraborated video,voice,pictures for years. Makes no sense. Just sayin.


17 posted on 11/03/2011 5:53:44 PM PDT by samadams2000 (Someone important make......The Call!)
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To: Sub-Driver

And replaced in 60 seconds or less. This isnt the same as overthrowing Hitler or Tojo, this is isnt about an ideology that lives and dies with any living indiviual(s).


18 posted on 11/03/2011 5:59:22 PM PDT by emax
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Sub-Driver.
19 posted on 11/03/2011 5:59:22 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
Oh yes, and BTW...Something the MSM never points out about those 911 jumpers: If you look close, their bodies are severely burned. Notice how the arms are black? And showing OBL with a bullet hole in his head is TOO OFFENSIVE? WTF?? That showing the photo may inflame muslims against our troops? Well GEE isn't THAT a change? SHOW ME THE EVIDENCE THAT OBL IS DEAD! OTHERWISE IT IS BS!
20 posted on 11/03/2011 6:08:07 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Mark Halperin - Learned the hard way what happens when you speak the truth on PMSNBC.)
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To: bitterohiogunclinger

Especially the ones that have been murdered.


21 posted on 11/03/2011 6:10:04 PM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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To: bitterohiogunclinger

Exactly. Moreover, there is no evidence whatsoever that they actually killed Bin Laden. All we know is there is a claim something was quickly buried at sea.

There is no doubt a Seal 6 after action report (AAR) exists somewhere. The truth is in that report. But you can bet your bottom dollar it has been highly classified and the politicians were in charge of any info released. That’s the way it works.


22 posted on 11/03/2011 6:18:18 PM PDT by dools0007world
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To: Soothesayer9

Would a bathosub worked?


23 posted on 11/03/2011 6:21:41 PM PDT by righttackle44 (. The J-school graduates who did)
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24 posted on 11/03/2011 6:35:38 PM PDT by RedMDer (Forward With Confidence!)
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To: Newtoidaho

That’s as good or better than any of the “official” versions, and much more believable.


25 posted on 11/03/2011 6:50:02 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Hussein has the confidence that his precious Big Media will cover for him for ANYTHING.

Believe NOTHING the Fraud says, and especially nothing from those here who find it easy to believe and defend SOME of what Hussein or the Associated Press says.

They’re the scariest.

Just “innocent hikers in Iran,” some here tried to tell me. “I’m not ready to call the media liars on this,” they assured me.


26 posted on 11/03/2011 6:55:17 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: Retired Greyhound
I’m much more inclined to believe this version than that of the Obummer white house.

My sentiments exactly.

(Oh . . . hey Retired Greyhound you ole' coot :).)

27 posted on 11/03/2011 6:58:45 PM PDT by GOP Poet (Obama is an OLYMPIC failure.)
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To: Sub-Driver
Did Hussein LIE?!
28 posted on 11/03/2011 7:01:47 PM PDT by Recovering_Democrat
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To: Sub-Driver

-OR- Osama was killed years ago in Tora Bora..
AND what they killed was a look alike.. used for recruitment..

in which getting that body out of there and burying it at sea would have been a good idea...
Meaning the whole thing was a ruse for the rubes..

You know...... “propaganda”.. for Negrodamus..


29 posted on 11/03/2011 7:52:11 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole...)
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To: Sub-Driver

No matter whose account you read, the striking thing is that they always emphasize “intelligence obtained by interrogation” as the basis for tracking OBL to the Paki compound. That’s Bush, and his policies.

How much intelligence have we obtained by interrogation since BO took over? A lot less, I suspect, since the worse thing that could happen in the Obama/Holder universe would be another terrorist rotting in Gitmo.

And still Obama gets all the credit.


30 posted on 11/03/2011 7:55:32 PM PDT by Stosh
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To: chesty_puller
What did Perry do ? I don't think he had even declared yet.

Trump's fault, for pressing Obaama to change the subject from the birth certificate, and forcing Obaama to play his ace too soon, yes. :-)

Cheers!

31 posted on 11/03/2011 8:00:09 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

I was trying to beat you to it. I know it’s Perry’s fault somehow.


32 posted on 11/03/2011 8:04:11 PM PDT by chesty_puller (Viet Nam 1970-71 He who shed blood with me shall forever be my brother. Shak.)
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To: chesty_puller
I was trying to beat you to it. I know it’s Perry’s fault somehow.

Is it too late to ask you to write in Palin? /Freudian slip>

Cheers!

33 posted on 11/03/2011 8:07:55 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers
Is it too late to ask you to write in Palin?

In a heartbeat!

34 posted on 11/03/2011 8:12:54 PM PDT by chesty_puller (Viet Nam 1970-71 He who shed blood with me shall forever be my brother. Shak.)
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To: Duchess47
He was dead in Dec 2001.

Yep. George W blew him to hell at Tora Bora.

But then he suppressed the news.

35 posted on 11/03/2011 9:56:15 PM PDT by Talisker (History will show the Illuminati won the ultimate Darwin Award.)
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To: Duchess47

“He was dead in Dec 2001”

Yes, more than likely they had to thaw Osama out for a few hours before they double tapped him then dumped him at sea.


36 posted on 11/03/2011 10:08:45 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: GOP Poet

yep, I’m just just a crusty old geezer in my twilight years.

“Get off my lawn.”

Hope you are well.


37 posted on 11/03/2011 11:19:02 PM PDT by Retired Greyhound (.)
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To: Sub-Driver

Damn, and some of us were hoping for at least 2 full minutes of suffering from this maggot...


38 posted on 11/04/2011 4:56:17 AM PDT by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: hosepipe

excellent theory

the lefties in the WH wouldnt want to have the world find out that osama was actually killed on Bush’s watch, would they?

Plus osama being dead for 10 years would make barry’s gameboy war (cia-predators) against Pakistan look pretty lame


39 posted on 11/04/2011 6:30:52 AM PDT by silverleaf (Common sense is not so common - Voltaire)
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