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Cain says Forbes concluded Perry camp was source of harassment leak
The Hill ^ | 11-3-2011 | Justin Sink

Posted on 11/03/2011 8:28:07 PM PDT by smoothsailing

Cain says Forbes concluded Perry camp was source of harassment leak

Justin Sink

November 3, 2011

Herman Cain said Forbes Magazine - and not his campaign - was responsible for the concluding that Rick Perry's campaign leaked the story of sexual harassment allegations during Cain's tenure as the president of the National Restaurant Association.

"A reporter did this research and came up with these facts, we didn't," Cain said Thursday on Sean Hannity's radio show. "That was the reporter that wrote the report for Forbes."

But despite adamant denials from the Perry camp, Cain said he still doesn't "see any other way this could have come out."

The Forbes article, headlined "Cain Says Perry Camp Behind Sex Harassment Leak," quoted the candidate as saying that he told former staffer Curt Anderson, now a consultant for the Perry campaign, about the allegations. But Cain is not quoted specifically accusing Anderson of being the leak.

The Cain campaign quickly seized on the article Wednesday night, seemingly validating Forbes' reporting that Cain was laying blame at Perry's feet.

"‪Rick Perry needs to apologize to Herman Cain, his family, and America for this despicable story‬," Cain's chief of staff Mark Block said Wednesday on Fox News.

Anderson has denied the accusations, saying in a statement: "I have great respect for Herman and his character and I would never speak ill of him, on the record or off the record."

He also told Fox News that any reporters he had ever spoken to about the Cain allegations were free to openly attribute those comments to him. In doing so, he opened up the door for Politico, who originally reported the allegations, to confirm him as the source. Politico has not done so, effectively eliminating Anderson as the source of the story.

Block said earlier Thursday that he would "accept" the claim by Anderson that he was not behind the story.

"Until we get all the facts, I'm just going to say that we accept what Mr. Anderson has said, and we want to move on with the campaign," Block said on Fox News.

But Cain seemed unconvinced, telling Hannity "there aren't enough breadcrumbs that leads us to any other place."

"I believe a lot of people are connecting the dots for themselves," Cain said. "I don't see any other way this could have come out."

Cain also said he's "almost certain" he told Anderson about the allegations.

"I am almost certain that I did. … This is why we want to get off this merry-go-round," Cain said.


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012; cain; forbes; frontrunner; herbcain; hermancain; momentum; moreperrydirtytricks; perrywinklesforobama; politico; smear
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1 posted on 11/03/2011 8:28:09 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

Screw Perry at this point.

I will not vote if he’s the only option we have left. No better than Obama.


2 posted on 11/03/2011 8:29:37 PM PDT by Red6
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To: shield

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Another day, another nefarious scheme....


3 posted on 11/03/2011 8:29:54 PM PDT by smoothsailing (FUMR-FUBO- the left is a seething mass neurosis)
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To: smoothsailing
He also told Fox News that any reporters he had ever spoken to about the Cain allegations were free to openly attribute those comments to him. In doing so, he opened up the door for Politico, who originally reported the allegations, to confirm him as the source. Politico has not done so, effectively eliminating Anderson as the source of the story.

So Cain is still peddling this story even after Anderson not only said he wasn't the source of the leak, but even gave Politico and any other reporter the green light to finger him if he was.

Meanwhile Block is backing away from the accusation while Herman is still pushing it. Is it really that hard for these guys to stay on the same page? Seriously? This has got to be some of the worst crisis management I've seen since Anthony Weiner was busy denying he'd sent photos of his crotch all over the twitterverse.

4 posted on 11/03/2011 8:33:55 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: smoothsailing

This thing is collapsing in on Cain. As a demonstration of how he’s handling himself under pressure, I can’t say it’s all I want it to be.

This is a contest for President of the United States. We have so little by which to judge someone being ready for the job. This sort of thing can either make or break someone by how he deals with it.

I’m not saying it’s going to destroy him, but he could have used it as a way to prove he can handle anything. Instead, it’s showing his flaws.


5 posted on 11/03/2011 8:34:35 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Obama: The stupid person`s idea of a smart person.)
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To: Red6
Screw Perry at this point. I will not vote if he’s the only option we have left. No better than Obama.

That's the spirit that built America! /s

6 posted on 11/03/2011 8:34:42 PM PDT by smoothsailing (FUMR-FUBO- the left is a seething mass neurosis)
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To: smoothsailing

it’s amazing how many on this forum have accepted the democrat-progressive and republican-progressive lies about cain.


7 posted on 11/03/2011 8:34:59 PM PDT by ken21
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To: smoothsailing
But Cain seemed unconvinced, telling Hannity "there aren't enough breadcrumbs that leads us to any other place."

Shouldn't he be campaigning for the job he wants, rather than pretending he's a crime scene investigator?

And there is something disturbing about how Cain, and his campaign manager, keep saying that there is "evidence", or that someone else "confirmed" something, when all they are talking about is their own quotes.

Does Cain really think that showing Forbes quoted him is some independent investigation?

Worse, does he expect us to forget that he personally claimed it was Anderson. He didn't say he was just repeating something he read in Forbes. Not that it would matter, since Forbes was just repeating what he told them.

Is this how you make a story go away?

8 posted on 11/03/2011 8:34:59 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Longbow1969

C’mon “darlin” you can do better than that.


9 posted on 11/03/2011 8:35:18 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: smoothsailing

He’s just pulling crap out of his azz now.


10 posted on 11/03/2011 8:35:46 PM PDT by CajunConservative ( Leadership. It is defined by action, not position.)
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To: smoothsailing

Well, Cain is always blaming someone else for his problems. At least this time he didn’t blame Perry — he blamed Forbes magazine. “It’s all Forbe’s fault that I falsely accused Anderson of leaking the story”.


11 posted on 11/03/2011 8:35:51 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: smoothsailing

Frankly, I’m not sure why Cain is revealing this. Forbes crafted his 999 plan too. Now, if he paints Forbes as incompetent, or even his organization, that doesn’t bode well.


12 posted on 11/03/2011 8:36:42 PM PDT by Ripliancum (Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you. -Eph. 4:31)
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To: smoothsailing

He’s right. Not that any of you care about facts.

If you read the interview, Cain accuses Curt Anderson, never mentions Perry.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/richardminiter/2011/11/02/herman-cain-sexual-harassment-leak/


13 posted on 11/03/2011 8:37:22 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Pray for Herman Cain)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

With such expert analysis coming from puffadders like you this innuendo lynching will never end. You must be so proud ...


14 posted on 11/03/2011 8:37:38 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: Longbow1969

This Block character is dragging Cain down, IMO.


15 posted on 11/03/2011 8:37:47 PM PDT by smoothsailing (FUMR-FUBO- the left is a seething mass neurosis)
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To: Darkwolf377

But, But, But, he is now “almost certain” that he told Anderson.


16 posted on 11/03/2011 8:38:12 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Red6

Cain and forbes were half right, it qas from perrys operation, just anderson worked on it with wilson and wilson was the man that took it public. http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2801469/posts


17 posted on 11/03/2011 8:39:30 PM PDT by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: Darkwolf377
You may be right.

But then again, you may be wrong.

Apologies to Billy Joel.

18 posted on 11/03/2011 8:39:39 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Mr. Cain: Back on message now; let the rest of us ferret out the gutter crap who planted that smear)
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To: ken21

You mean, the lie that Cain accused Anderson of being the leak? Because it sure looks like Cain keeps saying it, so I think it’s OK to say Cain said that.


19 posted on 11/03/2011 8:40:16 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Ripliancum

Different Forbes. Plus, Forbes did Perry’s flat tax. This isn’t “Steve Forbes”, this is “Forbes Magazine”.


20 posted on 11/03/2011 8:42:03 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: AmericanInTokyo

Billy Joel should be apologizing to me. :)

I like Cain, but I’m starting to think maybe I gave him too much credit because I dislike the rest of the field.


21 posted on 11/03/2011 8:42:13 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Obama: The stupid person`s idea of a smart person.)
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To: ken21

Watching Cain and his staff deal with this issue has been a lot more instructive than whatever did or didn’t happen with Cain and these women. I donated money to Cain earlier this week when these allegations came out, but this is no way to handle a crisis. Even if NOTHING happened, and I’m inclined to believe that Cain didn’t do anything wrong, the way he, Block and others in his campaign have reacted is just not smart or disciplined.


22 posted on 11/03/2011 8:42:13 PM PDT by ChocChipCookie
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To: smoothsailing
When you find yourself in a hole, it really is best to stop digging.
23 posted on 11/03/2011 8:42:16 PM PDT by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

When did Steve Forbes sell Forbes Magazine, I missed that.


24 posted on 11/03/2011 8:43:40 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I want Cain to show the “proof “ he had when he accused Perry...so far, no proof, except “Well, that guy that works for Perry did it” and now “well, the magazine said Perry did it”....

And now, Cain “just wants to get off the merry-go-round”????

On this one, Perry has taken the high road and not gotten on the “merry-go-round “.


25 posted on 11/03/2011 8:43:40 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Rick Perry 2012)
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To: MHGinTN

I’m all with Cain on the original allegations. But not on his lying about other people to cover his own team’s ineptitude. If you feel Cain deserves to be supported for making unfounded accusations about a guy who served on his previous campaign and still expresses admiration and respect for him, go right ahead.


26 posted on 11/03/2011 8:43:56 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: smoothsailing
http://foxnewsinsider.com/2011/11/02/mark-block-accuses-perry-campaign-of-leaking-sexual-harassment-allegations-against-cain-says-it%e2%80%99s-%e2%80%9cdespicable%e2%80%9d/

Leaks are intentional.

Of course you can't “prove” anything and directly show a link, it's all done with plausible deniability in mind.

But someone did leak it.

That said, the Cain side believes it's from Perry's side, and the connection makes sense.

These scum tactics entirely eliminate someone like Perry from the picture. Even if he's nominated and counts on me (the usual conservative voter) to vote for him because he's our guy, I'll stay home. Perry has just eliminated himself from the political gene pool.

There is so far no merit to any of this and the goal is of course to simply keep the story going because as long as the media “talks about it” it's supposed to maul the candidate Cain. Au contraire, this sort of anonymously leaked 20 year old trash (it has no substance - “accusations”) is what discredits the typical political animals like Perry. The only one that deserves ripped apart politically is Perry, not Cain.

27 posted on 11/03/2011 8:44:31 PM PDT by Red6
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To: CharlesWayneCT

that source is forbes.

cain rises to the top and

bang!

the liberal-progressives and rino-progressives

ambush him

they want washington d.c. to stay establishment.


28 posted on 11/03/2011 8:44:35 PM PDT by ken21
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To: Allegra

C’mon “darling” do you really mean that.


29 posted on 11/03/2011 8:44:53 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: justsaynomore

Too bad.

Cain’s campaign manager accused Perry directly....yeesh.


30 posted on 11/03/2011 8:45:01 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Rick Perry 2012)
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To: justsaynomore
He’s right. Not that any of you care about facts.

"‪Rick Perry needs to apologize to Herman Cain, his family, and America for this despicable story‬," Cain's chief of staff Mark Block said Wednesday on Fox News.

How's the view up there on your high horse, cowboy?

31 posted on 11/03/2011 8:45:28 PM PDT by smoothsailing (FUMR-FUBO- the left is a seething mass neurosis)
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To: ken21

I think it’s one of those “Who needs facts? It’s the seriousness of the allegations.” and “fake but accurate” things the ‘RATS always use.


32 posted on 11/03/2011 8:45:33 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Stop Government Greed Now!!!!)
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To: smoothsailing

This Perry character is dragging Perry down, IMO.


33 posted on 11/03/2011 8:46:25 PM PDT by South40 (Heartless since 1957)
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To: ken21
republican-progressive lies about cain.

If the story is false we will find out, hopefully soon, before it brings down a campaign. All anyone seems to care about is who released the report, not if it's true or not.

34 posted on 11/03/2011 8:46:31 PM PDT by chesty_puller (Viet Nam 1970-71 He who shed blood with me shall forever be my brother. Shak.)
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To: Red6

At this point, Herman needs to step back and let all the crap the media is going to throw out there fall. You know they are going keep heaping stuff on him for a while. For now he should just stick to the issues.

Then he can collect himself and deal with all the smears in a single press conference and give his side to the whole story and move on.

This is a valuable learning experience for sure. Should he survive this and be the nominee, he’ll have to be ready for even worse Alisky/Chicago-thug style tactics from 0bama and his hoards of goons.


35 posted on 11/03/2011 8:46:50 PM PDT by GR_Jr.
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Steve Forbes is editor-in-cheif of Forbes Magazine.

This is not a good development for Cain, no matter how you slice it.


36 posted on 11/03/2011 8:47:15 PM PDT by Ripliancum (Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you. -Eph. 4:31)
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To: smoothsailing

Sarah

Bachmann

Cain

Perry’s next.

I don’t care if a youtube appears showing Cain beating Michelle Obama with a baseball bat or another showing Perry shooting a pistol into the air during his speech-

cue music-

“I won’t be fooled again”


37 posted on 11/03/2011 8:47:52 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Occupy is the DNC's use of children,indigent & infirm to push back TeaParty calls for smaller gov't)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

yes.

the left despises black conservatives

and the rinos do not want a conservative for president.

reagan got shot.

the truth is, rinos are big spenders like the democrats.


38 posted on 11/03/2011 8:48:23 PM PDT by ken21
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I also don’t think the allegations were anything really at all...but I didn’t like the way Cain and his team handled this.

why didn’t cain just say one comment that “this was a complaint, it was baseless, end of story.” and leave it at that...


39 posted on 11/03/2011 8:48:28 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie (Rick Perry 2012)
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To: Ripliancum

Why is that.........


40 posted on 11/03/2011 8:49:08 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: smoothsailing

This Block character is dragging Cain down, IMO.

Agree


41 posted on 11/03/2011 8:49:08 PM PDT by Java4Jay
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To: chesty_puller

hannity offered a good defense of cain tonight.

he had jay seculow on.


42 posted on 11/03/2011 8:49:27 PM PDT by ken21
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To: smoothsailing

Good grief.

Can anyone at all see that the communist devils are going to do whatever it takes to take down this “black man” who threatens, not only their precious “0,” but also the entire Democrat and Republican establishment?

I’m astonished that so many of us are so easily “distracted.”


43 posted on 11/03/2011 8:49:41 PM PDT by WXRGina
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To: org.whodat

Well, other than NONE of what you posted being true, that’s sure interesting.

Wilson was a witness, but he has said he never told anybody. And the guy he worked for confirmed that Wilson never told him anything about it. Wilson just talked about it this week because it has become public, and he wanted to point out that a lot of people knew about it.

The fact that Wilson knew about it doesn’t mean he spoke about it. Cain new about it — does that mean He’s the leaker?

And there is no evidence Anderson got anything from Wilson. Anderson said he first heard about it when he read the piece, so how could he have “worked on it”?

But that’s a nice try to bring the cain supporter fiction into some sort of alignment with the Cain campaign fiction.

Because they spent all day blaming Wilson, and then Cain and Block came out and attacked Cain’s good friend and admirer Anderson. Because after all, Cain is “almost certain” he told Anderson. So of COURSE Anderson HAD to be the one who leaked it — after all, the only two people in the world who knew where Cain and Anderson (well, and Cain’s wife, but she wouldn’t have told anybody).

I hope I don’t need a sarcasm tag for that last bit. And I wish I could tell which freepers know they are making things up, and which are actually clueless enough to believe what they are saying.


44 posted on 11/03/2011 8:49:52 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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45 posted on 11/03/2011 8:51:43 PM PDT by shield (Rev 2:9 Woe unto those who say they are Judahites and are not, but are of the syna GOG ue of Satan.)
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To: eyedigress
Because Forbes was the think tank behind Cain's tax plan. Now he's giving him bad advice in this direction. I know Cain hates Perry, but he should have just let it go and not jumped in following Forbes lead. If Forbes loses credibility, he loses it on other fronts too.
46 posted on 11/03/2011 8:53:28 PM PDT by Ripliancum (Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamour, and evil speaking, be put away from you. -Eph. 4:31)
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To: Allegra

Cain needs to defect from the Mitt/Rove complex and come on over to our side.


47 posted on 11/03/2011 8:53:48 PM PDT by txhurl (Did you want to talk or fish? Or feed the fish?)
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To: smoothsailing

Let’s see how Cain is handling this.Since the story broke he is raising more money going up in the polls and exposing the MSM as fools. You think he needs consultants?


48 posted on 11/03/2011 8:54:42 PM PDT by littlesorrel
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Sounds like you need to take that up with Mark Block then.


49 posted on 11/03/2011 8:55:29 PM PDT by justsaynomore (Pray for Herman Cain)
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To: ken21

All this nonsense because Cain said to a women, “Darling, would you please doctor my tea?”

LOL. This whole thing is really a joke. Those that think Cain will be negatively affected by this have another thing coming if the above quote is true.

I suspect Cain is raising A LOT more money today again because of these smear tactics.


50 posted on 11/03/2011 8:56:04 PM PDT by CSI007
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