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The rats are going the full monty, economic and cultural marxism.

1 posted on 11/03/2011 9:56:42 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Who needs to win elections to govern?

Not commies with friends on the bench.


2 posted on 11/03/2011 9:58:40 PM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: little jeremiah

Ping


3 posted on 11/03/2011 9:59:30 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: neverdem

For communism to work, the normal family unit has to be destroyed. The commie ‘RATS are just doing what commie ‘RATS do.


4 posted on 11/03/2011 10:00:44 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Stop Government Greed Now!!!!)
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To: neverdem

The Dems keep defining themselves as the party of high taxes, gay marriage and Occupy Wall Street. (And then they whine when people call them that.)

I say, “Keep up the good work, Dummies!”


5 posted on 11/03/2011 10:04:31 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (Obama: The stupid person`s idea of a smart person.)
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To: neverdem

This would totally throw out Natural Law Theory as the basis of our Constitution and philosophy and our jurisprudence for over 200 years. It would transform us into one of Marxist philosophy, which defies our form of government. No inalienable rights would exist, because God’s standards are dropped and Marx is the replacement.

They are destroying our Biblical standards (the God of our Founders was the Judeo/Christian one) and replacing it with Barney Frank’s (and Marx’s) standard of Right and Wrong which can not stand. There is no God for them; therefore, no Objective Truth—no right and wrong—it is arbitrary—whoever in power gets to decide or vote even—but with no inalienable rights. Private property could be voted away. Everything when it is arbitrary standards. Our Founders knew this. That is why we are based on Objective Truth—God.

With our system of government, we have Supra Positive Law (it is the reason there was a higher law than King George’s) which gave us inalienable rights which King George was abusing-—so we had the right to revolt—not only a right—a duty!!!!

The Bible is clear on what marriage should be and our legal system has to be based on that standard as stated in the philosophy of our legal system: Right Reason according to Nature. That means we have to use logic, reason, and science to form our laws and it has to be aligned with Nature as God designed it-otherwise, it is NOT JUST law.

All science and reason and nature states that two men can not marry. Natural Law respects the teleological aspects of human beings. Perversion of their nature can never be protected and forced on a people in the US by law. Legally it should be impossible to have “gay” marriage in the USA.

In fact, I disagree with Scalia on this point since he thinks you can “vote” to remove inalienable rights—such as the right of a child to be connected to their biological parents. Our government was formed to protect the Duty of the people—which is first and foremost—to nurture and raise your children to be good people. A stupid law like they are proposing disregards man’s duty and children’s natural rights. It reduces children into objects to be sold or bartered for—where their rights and best interests are TOTALLY disregarded (as is all the science which proves that biological parents are the best people to raise children) . The child is treated as objects, not human beings with dignity and human rights and human needs. A rational society would promote laws which fostered biological parents doing their duty of raising and caring for their young. Laws that don’t do this are unjust and do not treat children with dignity and worth. Government should NEVER undermine the duties of the parents.

It is a Marxist move to destroy biological meaning—they have been trying to destroy marriage with no fault divorce (Lenin did that) and create a promiscuous society to make serial divorce common so they can then add polygamy, etc. It is all to destroy children—make them insecure and lack family support—the only effective unit against government tyranny—that loyalty and security gone—then state becomes the nanny from cradle to grave.


7 posted on 11/03/2011 10:55:26 PM PDT by savagesusie
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To: neverdem

These are the same people who lecture to us about defending states’ rights on right to carry gun laws reciprocity.

When it comes to respecting the decision of the states on marriage, they want those states rights thrown out because they don’t agree with them.

There’s a word that comes to mind about them. But this more than anything else, illustrates who they truly are.


8 posted on 11/03/2011 11:28:16 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: neverdem

If a Christian state like South Carolina is forced to recognize the unholy matrimony of two New York perverts we will secede AGAIN only this time WITH FEELING!!!


9 posted on 11/03/2011 11:38:51 PM PDT by Happy Rain ( "Many of the most useful idiots of the Left are on the Right.")
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To: neverdem
The article's Headline is wrong.

These aren't House 'Democrats', they're Communists.

11 posted on 11/04/2011 5:00:46 AM PDT by Condor51 (Yo Hoffa, so you want to 'take out conservatives'. Well okay Jr - I'm your Huckleberry)
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To: neverdem

bump for later


13 posted on 11/04/2011 9:49:16 AM PDT by hattend (If I wanted you dead, you'd be dead. - Cameron Connor)
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