Skip to comments.Perry suggests US visa program to let illegal immigrants come and go freely; opposes amnesty
Posted on 11/04/2011 7:39:05 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
You can put a program into place in which these individuals can be identified, and work visas in which they can move back and forth between their countries but not to become United States citizens, Perry said. And I think thats where McCain, thats where Romney, thats where even Bush went wrong when they talked about the issue that, were going to give amnesty to these individuals, and people just said, no, were not.
Perry didnt elaborate on what such a visa plan would look like, saying only that authorities need to determine a better way to identify illegal immigrants and make them part of mainstream society. He also said the program would only work if the federal government first does a better job securing Americas borders.
I disagree with the concept that somehow or another were going to pack up 10, to 12, to 15 million people and ship them back to the country of origin. Thats not going to happen, Perry said. So realty has to be part of our conversation. And then you need to have a strategy to deal with it. That is what I think we will have, but first you have to secure that border.
Perry called Washingtons efforts to stop the flow of illegal immigrants an abject failure but said that, as president, he could accomplish the task in just a year using the existing fence, more border patrol agents and air surveillance.
(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...
Gov. Perry asks for drones and technology, and more boots on the U.S. Mexican border. Meanwhile Texas Rangers are patrolling the U.S. Mexican border (1250 miles) the best they can -- salaries paid by the citizens of Texas. The International border with Mexico is a Federal responsibility but they refuse to do their sworn duty. Instead we find out the U.S. Federal Government bought and GAVE guns to Mexican drug cartels.
Gov. Rick Perry states that fencing in urban areas is effective but drones and Intel is needed for the rest of the border. His written and personal requests for the U.S. government to seal the border is ignored by the Obama administration and Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano. Instead DHS has for years used a drone for patrolling sections our border with Canada and is discussing wider drone patrols and more boots on the ground on the northern border.
“Come and go” is come only.
Perry is at least honest, pro-illegal he is. He should run for pres of Mexico.
Mostly it will only get the reactionaries and the nativists all stirred up and send them into a frenzy. Which some relish. LOL
Just add your own words???
Must be nice to just make it up as you go heiss.
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We do not want one single illegal in this country, taking our jobs, nor for any other reason. Why don’t they “get” this? What part of illegal don’t you understand?
Give me your candidates’ plan.
Lay it out there for the thread.
Rick Perry doesn’t want amnesty, he just wants illegals to come and go freely.
You can’t make this shit up.
Perry is all in for changing the narrative of this debate.
My dad died for this country and I served it. If I am willing to have an honest conversation about how to fix this problem, then even the most racist nativists on FR should too.
Exactly. Like that article thread earlier this morning without a live link.
A good venue for lots of anti-Perry comments, but no honest debate.
Give me links and information not slogans and spin.
if perry’s involved in the release of the hate against cain
perry will not get my vote.
I KNOW! No need for the left to paint Perry as dumber than GWB- Perry is doing a bang up job of that all by himself.
YOU do it every day.
My guy just wants to cook'em on the wire, with or without salsa.
You do the dishes.
Sounds like a plan to me.
I'm guessin' you have decided that people who care about law and order are racists? You're twisted.
Is Perry stupid? They come...and then baby drop about 4 to 6 kids that WILL BE automatic citizens. They grow up on the dole and vote democrat. The has to be stopped and reversed. Once we lose Texas and or Florida to immigration Democ-rats...It is one party socialist rule. Just like California.
Indeed and I am a chest-thumping nativist. Perry is as trustworthy as a gypsy.
Breakfast was made and dishes were washed and put away hours ago.
Laundry was finished yesterday and my ironing is set for this afternoon.
The garden looks great and the groceries were bought and put up Wednesday.
The bills are paid and all my Christmas cards are addressed and waiting for the Christmas letter we will be putting together this month.
The toilets are scrubbed and the floors mopped. The dusting is done and the repairman came yesterday to fix the broken magnet on the front door alarm.
I will be babysitting my grandchildren this weekend.
Anything else you can think of for me to do?
I knew FR had its fair share of nativists, just didn't realize how many there were infesting the forum.
In the end the immigration problem will include solutions more in line with Gov Perry's ideas, then what John Tanton and his followers have in mind.
It is astonishing that for all the human resources, wasted tax money and lost lives - no public official has presented a workable, humane and practical solution.
Illegal is the operative word.
What is needed is a comprehensive census to identify illegal immigrants (when they apply for employment, benefits, drivers licenses, rentals, medical care etc.,)They should be immediately registered with the INS - given a background check/clearance and if appropriate - a ticket and orders to return to their country of origin. If they have a sponsor (citizen employer or relative) who can vouch for their good character and sound financial assets, they should be given a 6 month window, a contingent/temporary work permit to be renewed annually at INS.
When minor children are involved - I have no idea what we could do to correct this crisis.
THANKS FOR BEIN SMART.
Click here: Rick Perry on Illegal Immigration (Opens in new window)
I welcome additional help compiling more. I just don't have all the time in the world.
So if we oppose perry’s de facto amnesty plan we are racist?
You forgot the heartless accusation. Not only is perry dumber than my garage door, but also more dishonest and anti
Why don’t we let murderers to come and go too?
Every time I've traveled aboard, I am required to have a Visa before I get there, not apply for one once I've arrived.
Name calling doesn’t work anymore.
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My first political activity was petitioning to have immigration process military spouses quicker than the eight years it was taking at the time. But I do want only people who are self supporting and without a criminal record to be allowed in. this puts me diametrically opposed to Rick Perry.
My position is stated on my homepage, bigot, and has been for years.
Which of my races and the races of my children's makeup do you think I specifically hate, bigotpulpit.
“Give me your candidates plan. Lay it out there for the thread.”
Didn’t Cain have one? BTW, wouldn’t Perry’s “plan” require a constitutional change to get rid of the anchor baby problem?
And if you don’t support Obama’s jobs plan you’re racist, doncha know.
So, you do prefer the electrified fence that Cain wants, or may be land mines and machine guns are your choice of border deterrents to stop illegal aliens from crossing over the Tex-Mex border. Btw, what do you propose to stop legal immigrants from entering the US?
I see; nativists are those who realize that la raza ricardo has redefined amnesty in his own mind.
You lost me at bigot. Sorry. No dice. You’re obviously not in favor of a serious, honest conversation. Ignore mode on.
My position is simple - enforce the laws on the books.
Somehow I don't think you'll accept that POV.
LOL! It's you who are calling those of us who want to stop the invading hordes NATIVISTS.
Doesn't really matter though, Perry is finished.
Your sexist comment is pathetic. Worse, your claim that Cain wants to electrocute the illegals. It is not his plan. He rattled it off as one option (shoot from the hip) when asked. Then, backed down and claimed it was a joke.
So, NO your candidate’s plan is not to kill the illegals.
“My position is simple - enforce the laws on the books.”
And if they must for cryin out loud don't whine about ad hominems afterwards.
Bravado isn't going to help you here.
Your Al Sharptonesque blanket racist accusation hail Mary isn't going unchallenged, bigot.
Is this a Mexicans only deal for Perry? Or will illegal aliens from India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, China, Philippines also be allowed to some and go as they please? Allowed to treat America as a suburb of Karachi, Manila or Beijing
This statement by Perry is deliberate self sabotage or he is a moron
Care to share those particulars???? You seem so "informed."