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German TV boldly shows ‘Nazi’ Star Trek episode
The Local ^ | 4 Nov 11 11:02 CET

Posted on 11/04/2011 11:29:36 AM PDT by Olog-hai

An episode of the original Star Trek series in which Captain Kirk and Mr. Spock dress up as Nazis to infiltrate a far-right alien regime is to be aired on public television in Germany for the first time ever Friday night.

State broadcaster ZDFneo has evidently decided that German viewers are now ready for the episode “Patterns of Force,” 43 years after it was first broadcast in the United States in 1968.

The episode, part of the second season of the immensely popular science fiction franchise, sees the Starship Enterprise visit the planet Ekos in the M34 Alpha System to investigate the disappearance of John Gill, Federation historian and one of Kirk’s erstwhile professors at Starfleet Academy.

The Ekosians, at war with the nearby planet Zeon, are intent on wiping out all the Zeons living on their planet — and destroying Zeon itself — in what they call a “Final Solution.” The Ekosians refer to the Zeons as “Zeonist pigs.” …

(Excerpt) Read more at thelocal.de ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Germany; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: germany; media; nazis; startrek; television; trekis
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To: buccaneer81
I've seen it over there, too. Where the original scripts called for the line "Heil Hitler," they dub in nonsense words or words like "gesundheit."

I haven't seen them, but I've read that they dubbed in other jokes that weren't in the original -- like Klink having an affair with his secretary, and dubbing "how high does the corn grow?" along with the Nazi salute.

21 posted on 11/04/2011 11:51:45 AM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: pabianice

we now have gay “spock” with the duty of making babies.

the reboot needs a reboot.


22 posted on 11/04/2011 11:51:59 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: gman992
Ironically, since both Werner and John Banner were both Jews that got the hell out of Germany before the s#it the fan...

Same with Leon Askin (Gen. Burkhalter.)

Howard Caine ( Maj. Hochstetter) was an American Jew. And Robert Clary (LeBeau) was a Jewish survivor of Buchenwald.

23 posted on 11/04/2011 11:55:23 AM PDT by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Olog-hai

The NAZI’s were going to ban all “gutter” religions like Christianity sooner or later


24 posted on 11/04/2011 11:58:02 AM PDT by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: justlurking

Please explain how Nazis, who support big government and very limited individual freedoms, are “far-right”.


25 posted on 11/04/2011 11:59:04 AM PDT by WayneS (Comments now include 25 percent more sarcasm for no additional charge...)
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To: pabianice

"Wildly popular franchise"? People forget it was almost canceled after its first and second seasons (saved by letter campaigns), and canceled after its third
Reruns, and reception overseas.
26 posted on 11/04/2011 11:59:11 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: GeronL

The Nazis were going to ban all “gutter” religions like Christianity sooner or later
They would have done it right away if that was their objective. Not only that, there was Hitler’s claim to the orb, scepter, sword and crown of the Heiliges Römisches Reich, in conjunction with his messiah complex.
27 posted on 11/04/2011 12:01:44 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: gman992
Ironically, since both Werner and John Banner were both Jews that got the hell out of Germany before the s#it the fan...

There's a number of stories about Hogan's Heroes that make it interesting:


28 posted on 11/04/2011 12:01:44 PM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“A Piece of the Action” was way better, with way better cameo appearances.

As for “Patterns of Force,” John Gill was a terrible historian. Calling the Nazi regime “efficient” showed he had no real understanding of Hitler’s Germany. In terms of war production, bureaucratic and military command organization, and war strategy, it was anything but efficient.


29 posted on 11/04/2011 12:02:00 PM PDT by henkster
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To: Olog-hai
>>>"Wildly popular franchise"? People forget it was almost canceled after its first and second seasons (saved by letter campaigns), and canceled after its third

>>Reruns, and reception overseas.

Long after cancelation.

30 posted on 11/04/2011 12:03:09 PM PDT by pabianice (")
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To: Buckeye McFrog
“Piece of the Action” was still a better episode in my view

Definitely one of the best. But, another one was Let That Be Your Last Battlefield.

31 posted on 11/04/2011 12:03:34 PM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: pabianice

Long after cancellation
Yet wildly popular as a result.

Used to be that US TV shows had a year or more delay before going to overseas markets as well. They didn't have NBC over in Europe back then.
32 posted on 11/04/2011 12:06:54 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: WayneS
Please explain how Nazis, who support big government and very limited individual freedoms, are “far-right”.

Again, it depends on how you define fascism on the political spectrum. It's generally considered them to be on the right end.

Personally, I don't consider the political spectrum to be bipolar. But, I'm in the minority.

33 posted on 11/04/2011 12:08:04 PM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: henkster

As for “Patterns of Force,” John Gill was a terrible historian. Calling the Nazi regime “efficient” showed he had no real understanding of Hitler’s Germany. In terms of war production, bureaucratic and military command organization, and war strategy, it was anything but efficient
Quite so. No bludgeon is in any ways efficient, just like predation is not in any way the most efficient way for an organism to feed itself.
34 posted on 11/04/2011 12:10:26 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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35 posted on 11/04/2011 12:10:45 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: justlurking

What about Bob Crane he was an interesting fella?


36 posted on 11/04/2011 12:13:19 PM PDT by al baby (Is that old windbag still on the air ?)
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To: Olog-hai

It was an interesting episode tho I always thought it was not one of the better ones.

It didn’t really make much sense.


37 posted on 11/04/2011 12:15:24 PM PDT by yarddog
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To: al baby
What about Bob Crane he was an interesting fella?

Oh, wow. He was indeed. But, it was a whole different level of "interesting".

38 posted on 11/04/2011 12:16:19 PM PDT by justlurking (The only remedy for a bad guy with a gun is a good WOMAN (Sgt. Kimberly Munley) with a gun)
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To: henkster

““A Piece of the Action” was way better, with way better cameo appearances.”

My favorite one.

“As for “Patterns of Force,” John Gill was a terrible historian.”

Yes, but the neo-marxists are abhorrent historians, insisting on forcing failed policies down our throats and blaming us when they don’t work. History repeats itself.

Patterns of Force is a good episode, too.


39 posted on 11/04/2011 12:16:28 PM PDT by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: justlurking
Frankly, the TOS wasn't very good. Only the rosy hue of memory makes one think so. But it was all we had in the 60s.

On a TV show some years ago dedicated to discussing sci fi, one of the better sci fi writers was asked: "Who sits around and thinks about the future?" Without hesitation he replied, "Teenaged boys who can't get dates." Hence we dorm TV room denizens of any Friday night long ago. Dateless, dressed like nerds (heck, we WERE Nerds!), drinking Cokes and eating vending-machine Milky Way bars, and dreaming of excitement beyond the stars!

Arguably, the best part of the franchise were some of the movies; Wrath of Khan, Undiscovered Country, First Contact (I purposefully leave-out the whale-hugging one). "Enterprise" also started-out strong but faded by making the biggest mistake a space opera can make: It made space travel look boring (a criticism also leveled with some validity at NASA). The ship in "Enterprise" was far to smooth around the edges and viewers got bored. I think that's why Stargate SG-1 lasted ten years, plus two movies. It always had a ragged around the edges, last chance, crap! they almost killed us that time! excitement. Anderson's insistence that it remain entertainment and not preachy and that it be funny in spots also helped a good deal. That's why the sudden cancelation of the third movie and MGM's suddenly cutting its head off is so strange to the outsider. Just what happened, anyway?

40 posted on 11/04/2011 12:17:00 PM PDT by pabianice (")
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