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When Perry turned Republican, he left some helpful Democrats behind
Dallas Morning News ^ | November 5, 2011 | Scott K. Parks

Posted on 11/06/2011 1:18:25 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

Democrats had ruled the state Agriculture Department for a hundred years. Perry immediately ejected Hightower loyalists and Democratic operatives from the agency. He pledged to cut the department’s staff by 20 percent and scale down the number of regional offices around the state.


Texas Agriculture Commissioner Rick Perry talked with a friend
in September 1991 while visiting a ranch outside Austin.

After Rick Perry switched from Democrat to Republican in 1989, he set out to become, in the words of his mentor Phil Gramm, more Catholic than the pope.

During the next 22 years, as he rose to the top of Austin’s power grid, Perry not only left his Democrat friends behind — he helped destroy them politically. And Texas evolved into a redder-than-red state.

Perry and the GOP took down U.S. Rep. Charlie Stenholm, Texas House Speaker Pete Laney , Texas Agriculture Commissioner Jim Hightower , Texas Comptroller John Sharp and many other Democrats...

Perry has portrayed his move as a matter of principle, while those Democrats, and others, say it was the result of political ambition. Expressing grudging admiration, Stenholm said, “Rick has become a master politician.”

Stenholm and Perry grew up where pump jacks, cattle and rows of cotton exist side by side on the plains of rural West Texas. Stenholm, a conservative “blue dog” Democrat, was already in Congress when he helped recruit a 33-year-old Perry to run for state representative in 1984.

....After graduating from Texas A&M in 1972, Perry spent six years as an Air Force pilot and then returned to Haskell County in 1977 to work the farm and ranch with his dad. He had gotten a taste for politics after joining the American Agriculture Movement, which brought the problems of family farmers and ranchers to public attention...........

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TOPICS: Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: conservatism; illegals; leadership; openborders; perry2012; perryastroturfing; politics; rino; romneyperry2012
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To: bereanway

LOL, he was in full bore support of green energy when he was, what ever that is, agi commessioner.


101 posted on 11/06/2011 6:31:52 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: org.whodat
LOL, he was in full bore support of green energy when he was, what ever that is, agi commessioner.

Bull.

102 posted on 11/06/2011 6:34:22 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: BobL

That’s not true. “visas” start at the home country.
Newt joked about identifying the Illegals with the FedEx package, but he didn’t even attempt to tell what to do once we find them.

Both Cain and Newt answered questions by the media about border security. Both talked about “strategic fencing,” and sending more troops to the border. Newt even said he’d close the border in the same one year time frame that Perry used.

Later, Peter Farrara stuck around to discuss Newt’s economic plan. Both Cain and Newt praised and recommended Mr. Farrara to us - Cain virtually introduced the man to us.

He again mentioned strategic fencing, His answer to what Newt would do about the illegals already here was “just enforce the law” and attrition will take care of the rest.


103 posted on 11/06/2011 6:36:22 AM PST by hocndoc (WingRight.org Have mustard seed: Will use. Cut spending, cut spending, cut spending, now,now,now!)
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To: txrangerette

“Your life consists of what you do here, and until you get another one, you wouldn’t change on a truth or dare.”

If you’re down to personal attacks, then your case is falling apart. As I said, Perry can say he voted for Bush in 1988 all he wants, and Reagan before that. It means nothing, since he’s trying to get us to believe he’s a conservative and no one was in the booth with him to vouch for those votes.

I will continue to look at his VERIFIABLE ACTIONS. And again the FACT is that he continued with the Democrat Party after they nearly impeached Reagan. I have a BIG PROBLEM with that, because I have a really tough time understanding how any so-called conservative could stick with that party, after that circus.


104 posted on 11/06/2011 6:36:28 AM PST by BobL ( A vote for Newt is a vote for Romney)
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To: org.whodat

“BobL did misstate the facts, the number is more like 30 million. But amnesty is amnesty.”

Sorry about that - I’m trying to be conservative in my numbers...so that Ohio babe doesn’t jump on me.


105 posted on 11/06/2011 6:37:24 AM PST by BobL ( A vote for Newt is a vote for Romney)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
When you can no loner deport illegals, they are a special class of people just a little more special than your common old everyday American citizen law breaker. Where is the deportation part of Perry's visa plan, when do the need to go home. How many years will this special status last. When do the visas expire. Do you also think that the constitution is a Jim Crow law, does Perry feel the same.
106 posted on 11/06/2011 6:37:32 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: org.whodat; BobL
Course, I'm unashamedly biased---but BobL and org.whodat are two mega-insightful posters---thanks for sharing your wisdom with everyone.

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Perry’s squalid ambitions-----particularly in showing up and stomping over the winners of the Iowa straw poll----- show definitively that Me-first Perry is a Lone Wolf.

Perry is a ruthless, unconscionable conman. Republican, my Aunt Tilly-—Perry does not consider himself a loyal party member-—he will advance himself no matter who is forced to pay the price. Sure, politics is a dirty game——but Ricardo’s brand of politics is more like its played in banana republics.....Sierra Leone and Nigeria come to mind.

PERRY'S THIRD WORLD POLITICS He forced the state to medicate little girls' genitals----and used eminent domain power to take land from Texans to give to a Spanish company building the Trans-Texas Corridor. Perry's cut of the TTC deal musta been humongous....Ricky's not called "the human price tag" for nothing.

Perry manages to stay in the 2012 race despite sinking to the bottom of the pack b/c he has millions of dollars----and b/c his rich Mexican and Islamic friends are hellbent on putting him in the WH.

107 posted on 11/06/2011 6:38:11 AM PST by Liz (The rule of law must prevail. We can’t govern ourselves by our personal point of view.)
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To: org.whodat; BobL; Cincinatus' Wife

You mean like Reagan gave when they became citizen eligible with the stroke of a pen?

That amnesty?

If they work here to keep their families from starving to death, that wouldn’t bother me.

As long as the border was secured, we caught those who tried to escape the system, we didn’t give American citizen jobs away to them, and they did not receive amnesty/citizenship.

In other words, get in line, apply for a work permit, be granted entry for that purpose only, and otherwise remain a citizen of Mexico or whereever you come from.

But then, I’m a real, born and raised, lifelong, thinking Texan.

Not a hobby thread spammer who gets off on insults and lies.

And I also know that prohibition and segregation no longer exist, but they were once the law.

I also know that Roe vs Wade which legalizes abortion on a whim is the law now. And that law should be changed.

Just as immigration laws can be changed to allow certain people to work here, and allow them nothing else.

And I won’t fall for the nonsensical whining you and BobL try to pull...”but we’re only upholding the law”.


108 posted on 11/06/2011 6:39:01 AM PST by txrangerette ("HOLD TO THE TRUTH...SPEAK WITHOUT FEAR" - Glenn Beck)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“I’ve lived in Texas over 20 years. And earlier I lived in Arizona (20 years). I expect I’ll die a Texan.”

I’m just having fun with you. It’s almost time for our morning break. 15 minutes, right?


109 posted on 11/06/2011 6:39:20 AM PST by BobL ( A vote for Newt is a vote for Romney)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Yes he was for bull too, but having made a “C” in animal husbandry, I doubt if he can tell a bull from a cow.


110 posted on 11/06/2011 6:39:42 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: org.whodat

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2799712/posts


111 posted on 11/06/2011 6:40:54 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The route he took to acquire that power will have negative future consequences. It’s built on political maneuvering. It’s impossible to know where he’ll swerve next. You’re too immersed in the Perry Krishna cult to see it.


112 posted on 11/06/2011 6:41:22 AM PST by edpc (My silence IS an answer)
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To: BobL

Break time, http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolf_and_Sheepdog


113 posted on 11/06/2011 6:41:33 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“Perry is not calling for amnesty and making illegals citizens.”

He doesn’t have to call for it. As long as they’re here, the Courts will take care of that. Do you REALLY think the founders of Massachusetts intended to permit gays to married? I certainly don’t think so, but the courts there found it right in their constitution.

Turning long-term guest workers into citizens is a no-brainer for a liberal court. They WILL get their Anmesty, once they are legalized.


114 posted on 11/06/2011 6:42:15 AM PST by BobL ( A vote for Newt is a vote for Romney)
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To: Liz
....his rich Mexican and Islamic friends are hellbent on putting him in the WH.

Really Liz? Your posts are always the most bizarre. It's impossible to take anything you post seriously.

115 posted on 11/06/2011 6:44:48 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: txrangerette

“I also know that Roe vs Wade which legalizes abortion on a whim is the law now. And that law should be changed.
Just as immigration laws can be changed to allow certain people to work here, and allow them nothing else. And I won’t fall for the nonsensical whining you and BobL try to pull...”but we’re only upholding the law”.”

You seem to be all over the place. I stand by my point: If you get them to leave (and get rid of the ones that won’t), then they WILL NOT, EVER, get Amnesty. If they stay, they very well may get Amnesty, and there is not a damn thing a retired Perry can do about from his Cintra-provided beach home.


116 posted on 11/06/2011 6:48:25 AM PST by BobL ( A vote for Newt is a vote for Romney)
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To: txrangerette
Still attacking the Constitution. You have no concept of a border, illegals have no constitutional right to be here. The whining and spamming is you bringing in non related items, border security has nothing to do with jim crow, segregation and/or the roe case. But it does show how lefty you are. What is the term limit of perrys visa/amnesty special exemption program.
117 posted on 11/06/2011 6:48:53 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: BobL
You have to make things up because that's your bias.

Do you REALLY think the founders of Massachusetts intended to permit gays to married? I certainly don’t think so, but the courts there found it right in their constitution.

BTW:

Do you know Gov. Perry's position on that?

118 posted on 11/06/2011 6:49:06 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: org.whodat

OUTSTANDING. That’s why I put up my comment. We should all get together after this and have a BBQ.


119 posted on 11/06/2011 6:50:02 AM PST by BobL ( A vote for Newt is a vote for Romney)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
What date does the visa expire, simple question, answer it.
120 posted on 11/06/2011 6:51:23 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; Liz

“Really Liz? Your posts are always the most bizarre. It’s impossible to take anything you post seriously. “

I wouldn’t call it bizarre....

http://www.americanthinker.com/2011/09/the_real_perryaga_khan_curriculum_is_bad_for_children.html


121 posted on 11/06/2011 6:51:57 AM PST by BobL ( A vote for Newt is a vote for Romney)
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To: BobL

http://governor.state.tx.us/priorities/families/stronger_families/defense_of_marriage_act/

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/08/28/us-campaign-perry-marriage-idUSTRE77P74D20110828

http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/08/flashback-rick-perry-supports-criminalizing-gay-sex


122 posted on 11/06/2011 6:52:51 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: BobL; Liz
Amil Imani: Governor Perry's Islam Connection Being a lifelong critic of Islam, red flags popped up in my head at Perry's purported cozy relationship with Islam and prompted me to look very closely at the governor's record on this particular issue and at this specific time.

David Stein: Debunking the Rick Perry “Pro-Shraria” School Curriculum Myth

123 posted on 11/06/2011 6:53:50 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“BTW: Do you know Gov. Perry’s position on that (gay marriage)? “

I know what PERRY SAID, before he was corrected by his handlers. He said he was fine with New York legalizing gay marriage, but he didn’t support it in Texas.

A nice 10th Amendment answer, except for that little “Full Faith and Credit” clause in the Constitution. Which is why his handlers had to get him to ‘clarify’ his position. He was clueless.


124 posted on 11/06/2011 6:54:57 AM PST by BobL ( A vote for Newt is a vote for Romney)
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To: org.whodat

When did you stop beating your wife?


125 posted on 11/06/2011 6:54:59 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
What is the time limit on perrys illegals visa/amnesty plan, when do they need to move back home.
126 posted on 11/06/2011 6:55:10 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
When are the illegals required to go home under the perry plan, simple question.
127 posted on 11/06/2011 6:56:37 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/08/flashback-rick-perry-supports-criminalizing-gay-sex";

You forgot to mention that one of the first things that Perry did as governor was sign a GAY-FRIENDLY so-called ‘Hate-Crimes’ bill. It was so over the top that even Bush-43 kept vetoing it...and nearly lost the 2000 election over it (that was the James Byrd chain dragging advertisement).


128 posted on 11/06/2011 6:57:58 AM PST by BobL ( A vote for Newt is a vote for Romney)
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To: BobL

You’re saying Perry is pro-gay marriage?


129 posted on 11/06/2011 7:00:44 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: BobL; org.whodat

Thanks to Perry-—Sharia law has gained a solid foothold in the US. Sharia Law Courts are a part of the Texas justice system. At leat one triumphal mosque has been built in Texas-—more to come, for sure.

Ricky manages to stay in tha 2012 race despite dismal polls and amateurish debate performances b/c his Islamic friends (and his amigos in Mexico) are hellbent on putting Perry in the WH——TO ADVANCE THEIR SUPER SECRET FOREIGN AGENDAS on the backs of US taxpayers.


130 posted on 11/06/2011 7:04:21 AM PST by Liz (The rule of law must prevail. We can’t govern ourselves by our personal point of view.)
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To: org.whodat

Well, green energy will only become mandated if the scam known as AGW can be sold to the public and things like cap and trade forced into law. No one has taken a stronger stand against AGW than Perry, and he hasn’t beat around the bush when discussing the issue. He has openly mocked the entire fraud.


131 posted on 11/06/2011 7:04:26 AM PST by bereanway
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To: lonestar
Let's see about that little fib, well here it is, Texas is number 2 right behind it brother-love state of California, and Virgina, is number 12, well damn, we beat Texas, in the number of illegals, how is that? http://www.statemaster.com/graph/peo_est_num_of_ill_imm-people-estimated-number-illegal-immigrants
132 posted on 11/06/2011 7:04:34 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: bereanway
He was for it before he was against it, he is algore’s friend.
133 posted on 11/06/2011 7:06:29 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“You’re saying Perry is pro-gay marriage?”

I don’t think so, see Post 124.

But I am saying Perry is to the left of Bush-43 on that subject.


134 posted on 11/06/2011 7:07:58 AM PST by BobL ( A vote for Newt is a vote for Romney)
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To: org.whodat
He was for it before he was against it, he is algore’s friend.

He's not Al Gore's friend. And Perry is one of the strongest anti-regulation, anti-warming spokesmen out there.

Who is your candidate?

135 posted on 11/06/2011 7:11:14 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: BobL
....But I am saying Perry is to the left of Bush-43 on that subject.

You are incorrect.

136 posted on 11/06/2011 7:11:56 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“....But I am saying Perry is to the left of Bush-43 on that subject.

You are incorrect. “

He certainly wasn’t on that issue...unless I’m forgetting something.


137 posted on 11/06/2011 7:18:07 AM PST by BobL ( A vote for Newt is a vote for Romney)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

When it comes to your perry spin I not believe you and the polls say I am correct. Now answer the question, how long does the amnesty/visa last. What is the term limit, when does perry make the illegals return home. How do you know who perry has on his hand cranked speed dial.


138 posted on 11/06/2011 7:19:44 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: org.whodat

“What is the term limit, when does perry make the illegals return home.”

Good question...and what will he do to get them to return home...particularly after he’s let them establish ruts here?

I don’t expect an answer.


139 posted on 11/06/2011 7:23:46 AM PST by BobL ( A vote for Newt is a vote for Romney)
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To: org.whodat; BobL

Hate to break up your little fun-fest but the question you ask must be decided by Congress. Rick Perry will champion sealing the border (and as commander in chief he WILL do it) and no amnesty.


140 posted on 11/06/2011 7:26:38 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“Hate to break up your little fun-fest but the question you ask must be decided by Congress. Rick Perry will champion sealing the border (and as commander in chief he WILL do it) and no amnesty.”

Again, we judge by his ACTIONS here in Texas...and they have been very weak, compared to other states like Arizona, Alabama, Georgia, and South Carolina.


141 posted on 11/06/2011 7:33:36 AM PST by BobL ( A vote for Newt is a vote for Romney)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Are you saying he has back flipped on his visa/amnesty program, dang I missed the announcement, will start a new thread, linked to you, Cw says perry backs away and flip flops on his visa amnesty programs. Do you want the link here????
142 posted on 11/06/2011 7:36:49 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: BobL

And that’s just it. Each state (and we have been doing things here in Texas to push back — inc. the Photo voter ID, drivers lic, supporting other states’ actions, $400 million and boots on the border, and other legislation but Perry can’t dictate to the legislature) has to fight the Fed’s inaction. And it always gets tied up in the courts. We need someone who knows how bad this is and that the border must be sealed for anything to happen on this.


143 posted on 11/06/2011 7:41:46 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: org.whodat

Who is your candidate?


144 posted on 11/06/2011 7:42:30 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: org.whodat
Has Perry back-flipped on his visa/amnesty suckup?

Perry gets his orders from Mexico on this----when amnesty bombed, Mexico told Perry to back-off.

All that matters to Mexico is getting Perry elected.

Once in the WH, Perry will do whatever Mexico tells him to do.

145 posted on 11/06/2011 7:48:04 AM PST by Liz (The rule of law must prevail. We can’t govern ourselves by our personal point of view.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Bruce gidner, sr, but he is having a hard time getting forbes to loan him his tax plan. Forbes keep telling him he rented it to another back bench-er . The best part is he is more honest that perry.LOL http://www.votesmart.org/candidate/biography/53176
146 posted on 11/06/2011 7:51:47 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: Liz

147 posted on 11/06/2011 7:55:22 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: org.whodat

Seriously, are you supporting one of the candidates?


148 posted on 11/06/2011 7:56:45 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: samtheman

I share your concerns and I am the poster child of Perry supporters. His debate performances suck. But, with each one, he’s gotten better, bit by bit. I’ve seen Perry overcome, adapt, and adjust in previous campaigns. Over the past two weeks, he has had multiple excellent interviews. He finally has his economic plans out, and they were well received. Nov 9, we’ll see a much better performance and I am hoping it will squelch my own anxiousness about it.

As for the FR posters that are for Cain: Cain’s people that post all of that bull about Perry are the dumb and nasty for sure. They also have a very misogynist streak, just like their candidate.


149 posted on 11/06/2011 8:10:26 AM PST by bullypulpit (Developer of http://rickperryreport.com/)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
What have you got against bruce, he an in depth platform like perry. And as soon as forbes comes around he will have a tax plan, MJ and elvis are working on the amnesty program, and the wolf and sheep dog have a jobs plan. You can order the jobs plan at “acme jobs”, it is listed right above perrys. Acme jobs http://www.google.com/search?gl=us&source=android-browser-type&client=ms-android-verizon&q=acme+coyote&hl=en&devlocsession=off&site=images&tbm=isch&biw=640&bih=335&sei=%20nbC2TrmDG6rI2AX4utTMDQ#p=0
150 posted on 11/06/2011 8:14:49 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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