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Who is Jerry Sandusky?
Philadelphia Inquirer ^ | 11/06/2011 | Bill Lyon

Posted on 11/06/2011 5:18:43 PM PST by Kid Shelleen

So what manner of a man is this Jerry Sandusky?

On Nov. 13, 1999, he received a standing ovation from a crowd of 96,480. It was the occasion of his official retirement as dean of Linebacker U's impenetrable defense. For a long, long time, he was thought to be the successor to Joe Paterno. When he finally decided to leave the fold, after 32 years of unswerving loyalty and uncommon patience, --snip-- It has been over 10 years since Sandusky left Penn State to devote all of his time to the Second Mile, a charitable organization he and his wife started in 1977 as a sanctuary, a safe house, for children at risk.

It is a noble undertaking, and it has grown and grown, and it is estimated that it reaches 100,000 kids a year. The name comes from the Sermon on the Mount - "And if anyone forces you to go one mile, go also the second mile."

(Excerpt) Read more at philly.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: athletes; athletics; boyrapist; collegefootball; homosexualagenda; jerrysandusky; paterno; pederast; pedophile; pedstate; pennstate; pennsylvania; psu
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1 posted on 11/06/2011 5:18:43 PM PST by Kid Shelleen
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To: Kid Shelleen

blah blah.. if he’s a child molester he should be hanged. Recounting “good deeds” he has done is pointless.


2 posted on 11/06/2011 5:20:25 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: GeronL

...go call the Pope for advice on this one....


3 posted on 11/06/2011 5:22:22 PM PST by ptsal
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To: ptsal

I don’t need to ask advice from any mortal, fallible being. I think child molesters should be removed from civilization permanently.


4 posted on 11/06/2011 5:26:37 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Happiness)
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To: Kid Shelleen
I read the grand jury report.

All they boys he is reported to have raped were in their second year at the camp before he approached them sexually.

He was in the process of raping a young boy in the showers when an assistance walked in on them. I stopped reading when I got to the fourth victim.

5 posted on 11/06/2011 5:27:01 PM PST by mware (By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West)
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To: mware

Disgusting. No way this creep just got started and no way others didn’t know about it. They should pay as well.


6 posted on 11/06/2011 5:34:35 PM PST by free me (heartless)
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To: free me
Disgusting. No way this creep just got started and no way others didn’t know about it. They should pay as well.

the grad student that reported the 2002 event became an assistent coach under Paterno. He knew. Paterno knew. The AD knew. The VP of Finance and Business (now retired knew). President Spanier knew. The workers at Second Mile knew. Public school coaches knew. Friends knew. Did his wife know?

7 posted on 11/06/2011 5:47:06 PM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: mware; All
What really upsets me is the 28 year olf PSU grad assistant..( who played for Paterno and Sandusky) who TESTIFIED that he witnessed Sandusky ANALLY RAPING a ten year old in the shower. He was so upset, he called his dad, who told him to leave the university, go home, and to call JoePa the next day.

How could the guy just leave the kid there to continue getting raped..sorry, I can't buy it..he shodl have gone intot he shower, pulled the kid out, and beat Sandusky's head against the wall..

8 posted on 11/06/2011 5:49:07 PM PST by ken5050 (Cain/Gingrich 2012!!! because sharing a couch with Pelosi is NOT the same as sharing a bed with her)
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To: NewinTexsas

I think they are only scratching the surface of the “Second Mile” victims.


9 posted on 11/06/2011 5:51:27 PM PST by Never on my watch (WTF happened to my country?)
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To: ken5050

JoePa is going down for this.....while he did report it to the AD, he was in a position to do a lot more to prevent further incidents from happening......there is no way now he can possibly return next season.


10 posted on 11/06/2011 5:54:10 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: Never on my watch

There’s another overnight youth football camp, too.

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&tbo=d&site=webhp&q=%22sandusky+associates%22+state+college+pa&oq=%22sandusky+associates%22+state+college+pa&aq=f&aqi=&aql=1&gs_sm=s&gs_upl=5725l9023l0l11273l6l6l0l0l0l0l883l883l6-1l1l0


11 posted on 11/06/2011 6:02:25 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Kid Shelleen
First reported in 1998...there are a lot of people who need to be held accountable for this. This monster has destroyed countless lives for his own sick gratification and should receive the death penalty.

But all those that stood by and let it happen need to spend time in prison as if they personally molested those young boys themselves. They were willing accomplices.

Sheeeesh...I'm about to blow a gasket. I can't even think straight I'm so F’n angry.

12 posted on 11/06/2011 6:21:25 PM PST by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: dfwgator

If I read the timeline right, didn’t he report it ten years ago? If so, didn’t he wonder why nothing was done? As a college head coach, he has to keep track of hundreds of things at once. I doubt he just forgot about it.


13 posted on 11/06/2011 6:36:14 PM PST by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: Kid Shelleen
It has been over 10 years since Sandusky left Penn State to devote all of his time to the Second Mile, a charitable organization he and his wife started in 1977 as a sanctuary, a safe house, for children at risk.

If the charges are true - and apparently they have been made by multiple victims over many years - Sandusky obviously did not start this organization as a sanctuary or a safe house for children at risk. He started it as a way to get access to vulnerable boys away from their parents so he could rape them.


14 posted on 11/06/2011 6:37:11 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: dfwgator

The news story here is the coverup and how long the Penn State “machine” kept it in operation.


15 posted on 11/06/2011 6:40:13 PM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Has anyone else noticed that the terms “gay” and/or “homosexual” are never mentioned whenever this story is written about?


16 posted on 11/06/2011 6:40:45 PM PST by curth
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To: Kid Shelleen

As an aside....

I’m no PSU fan. I take every opportunity with my wife’s family to poke holes in their PSU arrogance. (That’s a lof of opportunities, her Dad is from Johnstown and her Mom is form outside of Clearfield) However, I saw a “We are Penn State” commercial on television today and it made me sick and not in a fun “JoePa pooped on the field” kind of way.


17 posted on 11/06/2011 6:42:31 PM PST by MontaniSemperLiberi (Moutaineers are Always Free)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Back in 1999 Paterno informed Sandusky that he would NOT be the next coach because Sandusky was spending an enormous amount of time on his ‘Second Mile’ charity at the expense of the football program. “You can’t have two masters,” Paterno told Sandusky. So Sandusky decided to retire.

Now we may be finding out why Sandusky liked his ‘Second Mile’ charity for kids so much.
He liked the kids. He really liked them.


18 posted on 11/06/2011 6:45:21 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: dfwgator
JoePa is going down for this.....while he did report it to the AD, he was in a position to do a lot more to prevent further incidents from happening......there is no way now he can possibly return next season.

Don't be a moron. Paterno immediately informed the proper authorities at Penn State after he was told by an assistant that he had witnessed inappropriate behavior by Sandusky in a locker room. That was in 2002, three years AFTER Sandusky had retired and was no longer involved in the football program. Paterno knew of nothing else regarding Sandusky's behavior except for that one allegation.

19 posted on 11/06/2011 6:51:40 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

But don’t you think based on the seriousness of the charge, and the overwhelming presence Paterno has in the athletic department, that he should have done more? Didn’t he wonder why nothing was ever done after he told the AD?


20 posted on 11/06/2011 6:53:46 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: NewinTexsas

That is awful. The children that suffered while they did nothing. Joe Pa too. Unforgivable.


21 posted on 11/06/2011 6:54:15 PM PST by free me (heartless)
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To: Lancey Howard

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/07/sports/ncaafootball/in-penn-states-sex-abuse-case-a-focus-on-how-paterno-reacted.html
In Sex Abuse Case, a Focus on How Paterno Reacted


22 posted on 11/06/2011 6:54:49 PM PST by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: Lancey Howard

Will Sandusky off himself?

Tatoo child molester on his forehead and release him in the general prison population. He’ll go from a Tight End to a Wide Receiver in an hour.


23 posted on 11/06/2011 6:55:25 PM PST by LeonardFMason
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To: dfwgator

No. I think JoePa should have retired years ago. However, to think Joe Paterno KNEW about this and did nothing is absurd. I am more concerned about what the AD knew.

Attacking Joe Paterno on this is weak.


24 posted on 11/06/2011 7:01:13 PM PST by LeonardFMason
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To: Lancey Howard

Do you really think this scumbag got started raping boys only after retiring? Do you really believe that 2002 was the first time it came up? This scum is in his 60’s.

Even if JoePa never heard a whisper before 2002 he should have made sure justice was done after employing the scum for decades.


25 posted on 11/06/2011 7:02:06 PM PST by free me (heartless)
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To: free me
i read the grand jury report earlier today.

I believe the first sexual attack reported was in 1999.

26 posted on 11/06/2011 7:05:43 PM PST by mware (By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West)
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To: free me
Even if JoePa never heard a whisper before 2002 he should have made sure justice was done after employing the scum for decades.

Yeah sure, Bunky. And how would he do that beyond reporting him to the cops and testifying before the grand jury, which he did? He's a football coach, not a police investigator or a district attorney. Get a brain.

27 posted on 11/06/2011 7:07:32 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: mware

So? He was in his mid 50’s then. He started his “charity” Second Mile, in 1977.

Are you so naive as to think he just turned homosexual pedophile predator when he hit his 50’s?


28 posted on 11/06/2011 7:08:31 PM PST by free me (heartless)
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To: LeonardFMason
He’ll go from a Tight End to a Wide Receiver in an hour.

Yeah, there'll be a LINE in BACK of him.

29 posted on 11/06/2011 7:09:14 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: free me
back off my FRiend.

I told you what the grand jury found.

From reading the report it is obvious that he used the foundation to find, and groom his victims.

30 posted on 11/06/2011 7:10:41 PM PST by mware (By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West)
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To: Lancey Howard
Paterno saying he told the AD about it is equivalent to a Catholic priest saying "I told the bishop about it" when he learned that a former employee was abusing kids on church property.

If it's not an alibi for the priest (and it shouldn't be), it's not an alibi for the football coach.

Still less is it an alibi for the dumb horse's behind who actually witnessed the abuse and didn't call the cops immediately.

31 posted on 11/06/2011 7:11:29 PM PST by Campion ("It is in the religion of ignorance that tyranny begins." -- Franklin)
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To: mware

Sorry, it occurred to me right after I posted that I misread the intent of your post.

You are correct of course. I’m a bit blinded by anger on this one.


32 posted on 11/06/2011 7:14:57 PM PST by free me (heartless)
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To: free me

Not a problem my FRiend. I am heart sick about this too.


33 posted on 11/06/2011 7:16:55 PM PST by mware (By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West)
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To: dfwgator
Didn’t he wonder why nothing was ever done after he told the AD?

Paterno knew of only the one allegation, and he says the assistant coach who reported seeing the inappropriate behavior did not get into any specifics. Paterno wasn't entirely sure about what he was dealing with. But he did the right thing and immediately reported it to the people who were supposed to follow through.

We really don't know for sure what Paterno may or may not have done in the interim. For all we know, Joe did indeed continue to inquire about the matter. Beyond that, what was he supposed to do based on one allegation?

FRegards,
LH

34 posted on 11/06/2011 7:20:44 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Campion
Still less is it an alibi for the dumb horse's behind who actually witnessed the abuse and didn't call the cops immediately.

Well, that's true. But of course the rest of your post therefore makes no sense since Paterno DID call the cops immediately.

35 posted on 11/06/2011 7:23:05 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: mware; free me
The grand jury also noted that the 1998 report involving Sandusky and boys in the showers was reviewed by University Police and Child Protective Services, with the blessing of Wendell Courtney, who at the time served as University Counsel and was (and remains) counsel to The Second Mile - though no criminal charges were ever pursued.

http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/press.aspx?id=6270

36 posted on 11/06/2011 7:24:07 PM PST by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: Tex-Con-Man

Thanks for the link tex. I was trying to find the grand jury report and didn’t recall what thread it was on.


37 posted on 11/06/2011 7:27:36 PM PST by mware (By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West)
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To: free me

By the way, what I find most intriguing is that the homo hugging Penn State President Graham Spanier hasn’t been indicted. Yet.


38 posted on 11/06/2011 7:30:17 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: abb
In the fall of 2000, according to prosecutors, a janitor found Sandusky in the showers of the football building performing oral sex on a young boy pinned against a wall. The janitor, distraught, told a fellow employee that he had seen people killed in the Korean War, but that he had just see something he would never forget. The employee thought the janitor was at risk of a heart attack.
In the end, no report was made, not by the janitor or the fellow employee he had told, both of whom, according to prosecutors, worried about their job security. And not by the janitor’s supervisor, who also had been informed.

Begs the question, why did they worry about their jobs?

39 posted on 11/06/2011 7:30:28 PM PST by razorback-bert (Some days it's not worth chewing through the straps.)
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To: Lancey Howard
He did NOT report it to the cops, just his boss. Then he dropped it:

Per a grand jury’s indictment of Sandusky, Paterno followed the chain of command when alerted to an “incident” involving Sandusky in 2002 — per the grand jury, Sandusky was witnessed by a graduate football assistant engaged in anal sex with a 10-year-old in the shower of the Lasch Football Building — informing athletic director Tim Curley of “something” involving the now-retired assistant coach. The school’s administration allegedly took no action when it came to the alleged incident other than slapping Sandusky, who at the time was retired but was given an office and access to all things PSU, on the wrist, failing to report allegations of sexual abuse of minors as required by law.

According to the attorneys we have spoken to over the past 48 hours, Paterno was technically correct in his approach to the situation; he reported it to his superior. Morally, ethically, not reporting the allegations of sexual abuse of children to the authorities after it was clear that the administration he had reported the incident to was going to sit on its hands? That’s the blurred line of a moving target that shouldn’t be so blurred, so moving.
read the rest at link

You seem upset, bunky, that your hero screwed up. If you ever have someone come to you and report they witnessed the rape of a ten year old let's hope you now have learned that it's not enough to tell your boss and forget about it.

I know it must be hard for you to see your hero now disgraced, but calling people names isn't going to change that.

40 posted on 11/06/2011 7:30:28 PM PST by free me (heartless)
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To: Lancey Howard

I think Camp was talking about the guy who walked into the shower area where Sandusky was raping a 10 year old kid. He is the guy who called his dad,and eventually notificed Paterno.


41 posted on 11/06/2011 7:30:31 PM PST by mware (By all that you hold dear on this good earth, I bid you stand, Men of the West)
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To: free me; Lancey Howard

You know what, I’m too angry about this as I’m reading more about it.

I think JoePa should have called the cops is all.

The whole thing is a mess.

Please disregard anything I said that was offensive.

I’m signing off tonight.


42 posted on 11/06/2011 7:36:28 PM PST by free me (heartless)
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To: Kid Shelleen

ok. My husband is not a head football coach or anything, but I tell you that if someone told him they had seen bad stuff happening between a former ass. coach and a child in a locker room, then my husband would personally remove that man’s ability to breathe. In self defense, of course. It is a natural reaction of a MAN.


43 posted on 11/06/2011 7:41:31 PM PST by petitfour
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To: LeonardFMason
No. I think JoePa should have retired years ago. However, to think Joe Paterno KNEW about this and did nothing is absurd. I am more concerned about what the AD knew. Attacking Joe Paterno on this is weak.

Joe Paterno knew of Sandusky's tendencies YEARS before the 2002 event and years after the 2002 event but kept silent in the coverup.

44 posted on 11/06/2011 7:53:44 PM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: petitfour
I'd like to beat Sandusky with a baseball bat until I was exhausted. I'm irrationally venomous towards everyone involved. I'm so sick of this crap.
45 posted on 11/06/2011 7:57:32 PM PST by Tex-Con-Man (T. Coddington Van Voorhees VII 2012 - "Together, I Shall Ride You To Victory")
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To: free me

I am a Penn State grad (’75) and always liked Joe. But I wouldn’t say he’s my hero. That would be my Dad. However, I maintain that pointing fingers at (at the time, in 2002) a 75-year-old football coach for failing to “do more” is weak. In any event, I am at least as angry about this disgusting mess as you are. But as I posted to someone else:

Paterno knew of only the one allegation, and he says the assistant coach who reported seeing the inappropriate behavior did not get into any specifics. Paterno wasn’t entirely sure about what he was dealing with, but he knew it couldn’t be good. He did the right thing and immediately reported it to the people who were supposed to follow through.

We really don’t know for sure what Paterno may or may not have done in the interim. For all we know, Joe did indeed continue to inquire about the matter. Beyond that, there just wasn’t much he could do. One thing is for sure - - you don’t point fingers and publicly accuse somebody of being a homosexual pedophile predator without a whole lot of proof.

Please keep in mind that we are looking at this situation now from the perspective of a lot more information, and a pile of additional accusations beyond that single hearsay report Paterno got back in 2002.

And so, that’s all from me on this mess. We shall see how it all shakes out.

FRegards,
LH


46 posted on 11/06/2011 8:04:58 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Tex-Con-Man

I’m with you. There is something about this that is making me so angry (more so than other crimes I read about) ... I keep asking myself: does anyone have courage anymore? To do the right thing. Protect the innocent, even if it means your hide might be on the line. I’d like to think that I’d risk losing my job to make sure a predator was locked up forever. These are child rapes we’re talking about - not a bully who stole a kid’s lunch money.

My gut tells me a lot of people may not have had intimate knowledge of Jerry’s habits, but they had inklings and clues. They did not dig deeper for fear of what they might discover. (Expletive) cowards.


47 posted on 11/06/2011 8:15:16 PM PST by kemathen7
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To: Kid Shelleen

In an effort to maintain the credibility of PS, some folks put on their blinders, and pretended it never happened. Now the time has come to pay for sins of the past. It’s called Karma. No excuses offered now will be sufficient to relieve PS of this crime.


48 posted on 11/06/2011 8:28:17 PM PST by takenoprisoner (Constitutional Conservatism is Americanism.)
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To: Lancey Howard

I see your point, but like it or not, JoePa will be associated with this, and that is going to affect recruiting. Because of the sheer ugliness of this situation, maybe unfairly, Joe has to go, the sooner the better, for PSU to put this behind them, and move the program forward.


49 posted on 11/06/2011 9:13:13 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: abb

The coverup stands out loud and clear.

Penn State’s President Graham Spanier issued a statement of support for the two administrators accused of perjury and failure to report the sexual abuse of a child.

He said he believes in their “innocence.”

My a**.


50 posted on 11/06/2011 9:25:59 PM PST by Nextrush (President Sarah Palin sounds just right to me)
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