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Weighing Pentagon Cuts, Panetta Faces Deep Pressures
NYTIMES ^ | 11/06 | THOM SHANKER and ELISABETH BUMILLER

Posted on 11/06/2011 7:57:57 PM PST by RummyChick

Under orders to cut the Pentagon budget by more than $450 billion over the next decade, Defense Secretary Leon E. Panetta is considering reductions in spending categories once thought sacrosanct, especially in medical and retirement benefits, as well as further shrinking the number of troops and reducing new weapons purchases.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cuts; military; obama; panetta; waste

1 posted on 11/06/2011 7:58:00 PM PST by RummyChick
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To: RummyChick

He’s a Clintonista. He has talked as if he supports Defense, but I believe he wants nothing more than to eviscerate the place. It’s people that count, and he’s suggesting cuts that will make quality people stay away.


2 posted on 11/06/2011 8:00:09 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (I won't vote for Romney. I won't vote for Perry.)
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To: RummyChick

That’s what happens when you put a Communist crook in charge of the Defense Department. At least clinton had the good sense not to stick his pet thug in there.

Does Obama have any qualified people AT ALL in the top positions of his government? Nobody comes to mind.


3 posted on 11/06/2011 8:06:27 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: RummyChick

Bad news for me, and for the USA in general.


4 posted on 11/06/2011 8:13:34 PM PST by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: Cicero

Panetta was confirmed 100-0 by the Senate.


5 posted on 11/06/2011 8:53:04 PM PST by Montanabound
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To: ClearCase_guy

I think military bennies and pensions are out of control but if anything our govt should do FIRST before touching the military is fire about 25% of the federal workforce....seriously....we need soldiers more than we need bureacrats....


6 posted on 11/06/2011 9:40:34 PM PST by cherry
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To: RummyChick

So are we to go back to more in the military on food stamps while we “give” illegal aliens more than we give the defenders of our nation? Are we talking about members in the military paying for their own medical insurance as NObama once let slip? If that is what we are looking at than say good-bye to an effective military. Say hello to one giant welfare program with San Francisco style bath house mentality.


7 posted on 11/06/2011 9:44:41 PM PST by Dapper 26
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To: RummyChick

End all use of military aircraft for non-military use.

End all use of military facilities to non-military.

Have state dept. provide all security to all embassies and Consulates.

CLOSE ALL BASES IN JAPAN,SOUTH KOREA, GERMANY, ENGLAND, ETC.

.........GROUND AIR FORCE ONE. REPLACE IT WITH A C-147

Just a start.


8 posted on 11/07/2011 3:47:05 AM PST by maine yankee (I got my Governor at 'Marden's')
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

The war with Iran will more than take care of this. It’ll also take care of the so-called Supercommittee. Thanks RummyChick.


9 posted on 11/07/2011 3:47:51 AM PST by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: RummyChick

There are more state public sector employees in New Jersey alone then there are active duty Marines in the entire USMC.


10 posted on 11/07/2011 4:00:53 AM PST by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: RummyChick
...reductions in medical, retirement benefits

This is an atrocity and needs stopped!!!They want to ponzi scheme the government further with wasteful spending too make who should be serving us even wealthier and cut retired military and health care!THEY MUST BE STOPPED!

11 posted on 11/07/2011 7:25:22 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: Montanabound
Panetta was confirmed 100-0 by the Senate.

It does make you wonder.

12 posted on 11/07/2011 7:28:49 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: RummyChick

He could eliminate stupid paperwork for MIL-Spec manufacturing and have more to spend despite the cuts.


13 posted on 11/07/2011 7:42:17 AM PST by Carry_Okie (GunWalker: Arming "a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as well funded")
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To: Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!

where do our candidates stand on this? looks like the Tea Party doesnt think the cuts are deep enough? Apart from the prospect of the automatic cuts, some Republicans have already criticized the administration’s planned reductions as dangerously severe. Some Tea Party members and liberals, by contrast, have argued that the administration’s reductions are too modest

I want the names of the Tea Party Members that endosre the cuts and more info!


14 posted on 11/07/2011 7:59:19 AM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: RummyChick

Do you know which elected members of the Tea Party believe the cuts do not go deep enough? “Apart from the prospect of the automatic cuts, some Republicans have already criticized the administration’s planned reductions as dangerously severe. Some Tea Party members and liberals, by contrast, have argued that the administration’s reductions are too modest


15 posted on 11/07/2011 8:04:17 AM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: RummyChick

No matter what I think of Panetta, I believe the military has a ton of waste. Some suggestions:

Trim Flag / General Officer perks (e.g. private plane usage)
Cut Flag and General Officers. I read a military white paper once on how we have multiples of the number of generals and admirals than is really necessary for the size of our armed forces.
Cut the officer corp in general. Allow mid-grade officers to retire early with partial pensions and benefits.
Cut pensions and retirement benefits for non-combat vets. IMO, doing powerpoint presentations CONUS for 20 years shouldn’t guarantee the same benefits as some grunt who took rounds and will have a hard time transitioning to a civilian job.

One of my beefs is that REMFs seem to have absorbed the same Culture of Sloth that infects civilian gov’t employees. This needs to change too.


16 posted on 11/07/2011 8:09:17 AM PST by jjm2111
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To: RummyChick
There are so many other things that should be cut; this is a clear effort to weaken our military.

That said, we do not need military bases in every other country. How bout they close some of those?

Cutting benefits to veterans, those who are currently serving with the expectations of benefits promised when they went in, and those who will be less likely to sign up in the future is just wrong for our military and the country.

17 posted on 11/07/2011 8:47:28 AM PST by teenyelliott (Obama warned if he loses the election it could herald a new, painful era of self-reliance)
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To: RummyChick
This is EXACTLY where Zero wants the USA - it is our turn to be trashed. /sarc

It really is the end of America that I grew up in and there is no stopping this a$$hat - he will be reelected because there is a culture ROT that has swept through this country since the 1960s. We are not reaping the "rewards" of turning our education system over to the commies, and allowing the 4th estate to be run as a propaganda arm of the RAT party - add to that the hijacking of the RAT party by the commies.
18 posted on 11/07/2011 8:58:06 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Cheerio
We are now reaping the "rewards"
19 posted on 11/07/2011 8:59:20 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: RummyChick

One of his main goals for years. He is enjoying this, as his boss is as well.


20 posted on 11/07/2011 9:05:39 AM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11)
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To: Cicero

Wasn’t he one of the more classier/least partisan showing; slick willy lawyers?


21 posted on 11/07/2011 9:19:28 AM PST by Dubya-M-DeesWent2SyriaStupid!
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To: RummyChick

Our Tea Bag Rep..Ryan, supports the cuts to military entitlements.


22 posted on 11/07/2011 10:09:11 AM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: RummyChick

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/topsecretamerica/

The amount of redundancy in our “intelligence” gathering entities is absolutely insane. But let’s not make any cuts there....


23 posted on 11/07/2011 10:24:10 AM PST by moehoward
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To: RummyChick

In what he described as the most sensitive of the potential cuts facing an all-volunteer force, Mr. Panetta said the Pentagon was considering raising fees for the military’s health insurance program, Tricare. Today, military retirees and families, who are guaranteed Tricare for life, pay only $460 a year in fees — far below what they would pay if they worked for a private employer — although a modest increase for new enrollees began last month.

The White House and Pentagon have made clear that Tricare fee increases would be phased in over a few years and would affect current retirees and troops serving today when they retire. Health care costs for the Pentagon, the nation’s largest employer, total $50 billion a year, or about a tenth of its base budget. Ten years ago, health care cost the Pentagon $19 billion, equal to about $25 billion in today’s dollars.

This will have a very adverse affect on our retirement. It is not fair to compare the military to the private sector. The military recieves more in benefits because they take more risks, make less money and make more sacrifices than most in the private sector. There may very well be protests in DC that make the OCW crowd look like girl scouts.


24 posted on 11/07/2011 11:02:48 AM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: katiedidit1

I believe they are going to protect most military benefits using them as an excuse to raise taxes.


25 posted on 11/07/2011 11:09:33 AM PST by OldGoatCPO
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To: maine yankee

Good points


26 posted on 11/07/2011 11:10:26 AM PST by OldGoatCPO
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To: cherry

“....we need soldiers more than we need bureacrats....”

The left/Liberals always see Defense as a financial affront for their pet social programs.They take their cue from European Socialists who built their programs on the backs of American taxpayers that provided the military might/prowess for their national defense....

If only we didn’t have all that military we’d be as great as Europe..../s


27 posted on 11/07/2011 12:19:22 PM PST by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry bear formerly known as..........Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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