Posted on 11/06/2011 10:37:58 PM PST by TBP
"I have been called 'Uncle Tom,' 'sellout,' 'Oreo,' 'shameless," Cain often tells his overwhelmingly white audiences as he seeks the Republican presidential nomination. "In the words of my grandfather," he said last spring in Iowa Falls, "I does not care. I does not care."
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"The 'oversexed black man' is one of the most powerful negative charges," said Niger Innis, a friend of Cain's who runs the Congress for Racial Equality, a conservative group.
Excuse me, CORE is a CIVIL RIGHTS organization.
This shows how frightened the liberals are of Cain and what they really think of black people. They should be ashamed of their efforts to destroy Cain personally, but they are shameless.
An minority that thinks for themselves is “too uppity” and must be put in their place.
The Left makes sure they know their place and if they leave, they’ll be discredited.
That’s why few blacks are Republican these days.
And any success Cain has might prompt some blacks to reconsider. We cannot allow that.
Liberals regard blacks as their property. One described Dr. Alan Keyes on a board where I post as “not a human being at all.” Shameful, but not atypical.
The Left accuses others of racism but revels in its own. Not too surprising.
CORE Under Niger Innis is a conservative organization...so much so that when he was on either CNN or MSNBC they put up his name as Nigger Innis...The old Congress of Racial Equality was far left but that was quite a few years ago.
Yes he is a free thinking independent American, a non professional politician smooth talking flip-flopping used car salesman establishment type. Yes he knew China had nukes since he was working on programs in the Navy with ballistics missile technology thus had access to secrets on China.
I wonder why they never fail to tag a group “conservative”, but never tag any group liberal. For example have you ever seen NAACP, a liberal group; or Rainbow Coalition, a liberal group; or Politico, a liberal web site....
The hypocrisy of the lefty liberals is shameless.
This will probably go over poorly but the Thomas case is nothing like the Cain case.
-Thomas’ accuser never filed a contemporaneous complaint. In fact, she remained close to Thomas after the alleged harassment.
-Cain has not attempted to answer all questions related to the charge nor has he tried to get all the facts of the case out in the open. Saying he did nothing does not address the charges brought against him. If I was wrongly accused I would demand the record be unsealed.
Fair or unfair it is Cain’s responsibility to clear the air. He should start by asking the NRA to release the statements the women made at the time so that he can deny them and offer his own evidence.
I think the Left inadvertently shot itself in the foot by its hideous treatment of Thomas.
Much of the resistance to the assault on Cain is probably due to the assault on Thomas being remembered.
Sort of like, for crying out loud, not this again.
“That’s why few blacks are Republican these days.”
But the black Republicans are pretty awesome - Sowell, Thomas, Cain, Alfonzo. . . they really have a lot of courage.
“This will probably go over poorly but the Thomas case is nothing like the Cain case.”
It is true, in the Thomas incident we had one accuser who had not done anything about the “harassment” until it was politically expedient to do so.
We now have two (or three?) who complained when politics was not a factor.
Money was, though.
Also, to hear that Mr. Cain was said to have been inappropriate because he said, “Honey, would you mind doctoring my tea?” really made me disinclined to believe anything.
If there is proof, let’s see it. Otherwise the accusers really need to shut up.
“In fact, she remained close to Thomas after the alleged harassment.”
Which is why I did not believe Anita Hill. Had I been subject to the harassment she charged him with, you could not have put enough miles between me and my harasser.
But now that his campaign is floundering due to the emergence of sexual harassment allegations made when he ran the National Restaurant Assn. in the 1990s...
The polls don't indicate this.
He did nothing wrong. There are anonymous charges brought by anonymous people. What do you want him to do? Confess every sin he ever committed to you?
By the way, I accuse you of doing much worse unspecified things. You should probably confess and address the charges I am bringing against you. Its your responsibility to clear the air now.
You forgot Congressman Allan West!
The filing or not filing of contemperaneous complaints is certainly a distinction to be made, but I hardly believe that this makes it “nothing like” the Thomas affair. Whatever was brought up against Cain was settled to the formal agreement of all parties, and no action was taken against Cain at the time. The reignition of these issues which have lain quiet for more than a decade make it very much like the Thomas affair, IMHO.
The NRA released them to speak if they chose. Cain was not even aware of one of them and not privy to the negotiations in the other (because of how it was handled and the small amount it’s a nuisance claim) there really was nothing for him to defend. It was gestures, or something. Or cab rides or something. It happened once or something. It happened a lot or something. Everyone knew except everyone didn’t. As is typical with the MSM the story gets more dramatic and bizarre the less traction they get. Everyone’s running around saying he shoulda/coulda/woulda because he didn’t handle it “right” (whatever that is). Except if he handled it so poorly then his rising in the polls and amazing amount of money sent in to his campaign is an anomaly. He didn’t handle it the way the “professional political class” would. Well good. I’m sick of managed & handled & being forced to justify an action because the media is pushing a bunch of innuendos as a real story.
Cindie
Cain is certainly a freeman and a citizen. It is not so certain he’s a natural born Citizen.
I don’t think Cain has to do anything. Something happened, I think we can assume that, but what exactly? Was it terrible or minor, like one of the stories here on fr where the response is “what has the world come to where someone gets $90K for something like this?” Is it worse than what Newt did to his wives?
“He should start by asking the NRA to release the statements the women made at the time so that he can deny them and offer his own evidence.”
First of all, Cain DID ask the NRA to release the info, but they could not. And since the agreements were signed between the NRA and the woman/women involved and NOT Cain, he had no legal sranding to even make the request. The women could ask, but not Cain.
Secondly he didn’t even know what the “charges” were and had no part in the investigation.
Thirdly now that the NRA has effectively released at least one woman from the confidentiality agreement, she has stayed silent.
This has gotten downright ridiculous.
I agree. I doubt Thomas would have been confirmed if Anita Hill and another woman had, fifteen years earlier, received tens of thousands of dollars to keep quiet about their accusations.
She has reason to. Just consider all the insults - printable and unprintable - FReepers have already heaped on her. Do you think everyone will suddenly become fair - let alone kind - once they have her name?
Not sure what you mean by that but here are the stats on Cain and his parents which clearly make him a natural born citizen.
Herman Cain born December 13, 1945 in Memphis, TN (Meets the Jus Soli Requirement) Parents were Luther Cain Jr., born March 16, 1925 in TN, died March 29, 1982 in Atlanta, GA Lenora Davis, born July 27, 1925 in GA, died August 20, 2005 in Atlanta, GA Both parents were US Citizens at the time of his birth (Meets the Jus Sanguinis Requirement) Herman Cain is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN
Your bias shows in how you attribute the settlement as a payment "... to keep quiet about their accusations." The money paid out in these situations is to make them go away without forcing the corporate entity to spend the money required to prove them liars (and/or lousy employees).
The confidentiality clauses are so they can't take their extorted gains and then go around publicly badmouthing the company about how badly they were treated. As others have pointed out, if they had legitimate complaints, they'd have been able to get much more than the amounts mentioned, and it would have been Cain who was shown the door. Sexual harrassers of that ilk do it consistently, and they don't have multiple non-anonymous people who were in a position to actually witness the pattern of behavior stepping up to say that it's BS.
You mean that was not an accident!?
The CAIN case is EXACTLY like the THOMAS case.
You got a conservative black man. He MUST be destroyed lest the Democrat Plantation be threatened. Period.
NOTHING is stopping the “women” from going public as much as they like. They can show their faces; but it appears they do not want to. (I would like to see them, see if they’re believable or just plug ugly.)
CORE is a conservative outfit now. Has been for years under Niger Inniss and father, Roy.
Sounds rather self-serving, RINO behavior to me. Sort of like it was planned by Romney or Perry? Of course not! None of these upstanding “Republicans” would stoop so low. Yeah, right, sure, got it, nothing to see here, move on.
And, if you believe that, I've got 100 acres of prime Florida Everglades swamp land to sell you for your new house that's only six feet underwater.
Have you ever considered that YOU and those who think like you are exactly why these women want to remain private?
What do their looks have to do with anything? What you really seem to want to do is trash them..."women"...and you don't have a clue what did or didn't happen!
I have a few black women working in my clinic. All of them are devoutly Christian. All have Obama stickers on their cars.
The oldest and I joke. E.g. I’ll pretend to be pulling off the Obama sticker from her car etc.
One day I came into work, and put on Cains gospel CD. I asked them, “Ok, tell me who this is.” They listened and of course were very moved by the music.
None could guess it was Cain, in fact two of the women didn’t even know who he was.
Give CAin time, and in his own style to win these people over.
This does nothing but piss me off and respect Cain less and less, deepening the racial divide.
IS THIS HIS MESSAGE?
Well if this is true, then I’ve been educated today:
“Membership in CORE is still stated to be open to “anyone who believes that ‘all people are created equal’ and is willing to work towards the ultimate goal of true equality throughout the world.” Today, CORE advocates for controversial, conservative causes”.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congress_of_Racial_Equality
First time I have heard that one. Got anything to back it up with?
You should never use wikipedia as a source... anonymous people get to write disparaging things until someone corrects it. As a wise professor once said, “Only use wikipedia to utilize their sources at the end of the article.” :-)
That’s why I posted #35.
nice, i will use that
I pretty much agree with him. No credible evidence has emerged against either one.
He has said he did nothing wrong and that it was investigated 20 years ago and found baseless.
It's not Herman Cain's job to provide details -- it's the accuser's, and the accuser(s) simply hide behind some legal language to avoid having to answer any questions.
Until any evidence emerges to support the charge, I'm inclined to believe that nothing happened and that this is the same kind of political witch-hunt as in the Clarence Thomas matter.
So are Bill C of BDroppings and wolfcreek Perrybots or Romneybots?
So are Bill C of BDroppings and wolfcreek Perrybots or Romneybots?
Because they're so fair, unbiased, and objective, I guess. At least, that's what they claim.
MSNBC said it was a typographical error and apologized. Well, I'm skeptical. At best, it was Freudian -- and that's the best case scenario. MSNBC is leftist. If that was just a typo, then I'm the King of France.
“You forgot Congressman Allan West!” Also Walter Williams, the Black Avenger, J.C. Watts, my bad!
The term natural born citizen is a bit more complicated. Founder James Wilson wrote we went back to the ancient Saxon customs when they formed the country. Not sure if he meant Anglo Saxon or Saxon.
During the Anglo Saxon period natural did not mean what it does today.
Shakespeare wrote the word natural in Henry the V to describe children.
The Founders use of natural in NBC certainly limits who can be President.
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