Skip to comments.In tough economy, Toyota plant brings Miss. jobs
Posted on 11/07/2011 1:50:19 AM PST by markomalley
Before Toyota came, Cassius Perry was struggling like many in this hilly, sparsely populated region of north Mississippi that's shed thousands of furniture manufacturing jobs since the 1990s. The young father of three went to school to be a barber, but ended up working for a salvage company while he held out hope for something better.
This year Perry landed good pay and health insurance when he went to work for a supplier to the sprawling new Toyota plant on the outskirts of the tiny town of Blue Springs. Hundreds have been hired, giving local leaders hope that their area will become another Southern automotive boomtown. The plant is finally set to begin production on Nov. 17, following more than a year's worth of agonizing delays.
"It changed my whole life around. I was struggling before I got this job. It made a difference for me, my family, my kids and even my church. I can pay tithing now," said Perry, 22. "The benefits make the difference. I don't want to be 30 and stacked up in medical debt."
So far, about 1,250 Toyota employees are already building test cars at the plant, and the company expects to hire another 280 this year. More will come aboard in the future, and dozens of others are employed by suppliers.
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I love the jobs... I hate the corporatism of Haley and his crony capitalists. I cannot wait to replace him with Phil Bryant... who has promised unlike Haley... to NOT veto eminent domain reform and to pass it into law.
Many of these companies get these sweet deals... and like Oreck in Long Beach, Mississippi... when the exemption time passes for tax free sailing... they packed up their plant and moved it to Tennessee... where they cut another 20 year tax free deal... etc etc etc.
Consider this: When was the last time you heard about GM building a new unionized plant that caused excitement in a community? Or any unionized industry for that matter.
Please freepmail me if you wish to be added or dropped from the mitten ping.
Consider what BMW cost the upstate of SC. It cost them thousands of jobs at BMW, hundreds in businesses supplying BMW, millions of dollars in taxes paid by NON UNION workers, thousands in clothes bought locally for employees children to go to school..You can’t swing a dead cat and not hit a BMW on the roads of the Upstate driven by the employees of BMW....yea boy, that sure sucks for the state of SC. It sucks so much it encouraged Boeing to come to SC.
Just curious, what's the population of Blue Springs and how many folks allegedly had their lives upheaved and lost their personal wealth and property? As a side note, how was it they lost that stuff?
TAKING SOMEONE'S PRIVATE PROPERTY TO ONLY TURN AROUND AND GIVE IT TO ANOTHER PERSON OR COMPANY FOR REASONS OF PROFIT... are not the ideals of nor the Rights given by our FOUNDERS. This is government stealing one persons property to give to another... and the politicians get rich by doing it.
Haley vetoed a bill that would have stopped this crony capitalism/nepotism once and for all... Phil Bryant... the Republican running to replace Haley... has sworn an oath to pass eminent domain reform... and he will. I will vote for him tomorrow!
At this point, you're sounding like a reporter for the Politico........It's not the lack facts, it's the severity of accusation right?
You've made that statement several times dude, time to step forward with the facts.........As for that "WE" business, you got a mouse in your pocket?
It was in the Jackson paper... YOU find it... I do not owe you anything. I will state my opinion here and no one but Jim has the right to stop me... all Jim has to do is ask. If you do not like hearing my opinion... do us both a favor and ignore me from now on.
Figures, classic unsubstantiated allegations.........You should change your screen name to "anonymous source", that way, you can post your lies to your heart's content and you won't have to provide any facts to verify anything you say......
You'd like that wouldn't you? Post facts and you'll have no problem from me or anyone else around here.......
No it didn't, reread his initial post #3.........
Then reread my subsequent postings to him requesting facts relevant to his allegations...which he could not provide.......
As for your last question, it does not apply until the facts are provided.......
If and when this dude provides the facts that I have requested, then we can discuss your last question..........
Since the dude could not answer my initial question about the population of Blue Springs, it's in the neighborhood of 144....and the surrounding area is nothing but rural woodlands....
I supplied you with the source of the Nissan plant story... I owe you nothing. Piss off troll.
No I'm not, it's the bogus accusation that subject poster has been unable to substantiate......and now you.
Provide the evidence that anyone in the Blue Springs city had their property confiscated under the "Emminent Domain" laws then we can have a discussion........Thats fair enough isn't it?
But to humor you, here is your "UNSOURCED" reference about Nissan......
"we have a Nissan plant"
Oh really? Where, on Uranus?
I owe you nothing. Piss off troll.
Nasty, nasty, nasty.........YOU LOSE!
A Google search of something to the effect of “Toyota eminent domain” might prove a more valuable expenditure of your time than huffing and puffing.
The Toyota plant is just off the highway on 78, outside of Tupelo. I have not seen any homes built near the highway, it’s just flat land on either side. I, also, would like to see some proof that people were kicked out of their homes for this plant. I do not live in MS but my company has a manufacturing plant down there and I’ve passed by the Toyota plant a few times while it was under construction.
Do it yourself or leave it up to LLS, he's making all the claims against Toyota in Blue Springs........In case you've forgotten, this is about Toyota in Blue Springs.......
I find it not surprising that he has been unable to answer my previous questions..nor have you but giving you the benefit of the doubt, you're merely a pawn in his bogus claim about Toyota, BS......
I saw the same satelit4e immag4es and you're right, nothing there, no farm land no nothing..........
As a side not LLS, what do you personally know about Blue Springs, MS, that qualifies you to to determine that Toyota srewed some residents there, do you live there? Do you live even remotely close to that town?
There are homes involved in the case of Nissan... and private property was seized in the Case of Toyota (for these public roads). These seizures were not for schools but for roads... but the roads were built in a comprehensive deal to lure these plants here... this is splitting hairs... bottom line... tomorrow's referendum on a Constitutional Amendment will stop these types of sleight of hand politics.
Here is the link to the article and an excerpt from it. Below that are my comments on this... and if this does not satisfy you then I have nothing more to say.
Was any reason given for the governors veto of a measure that had won overwhelming approval in both houses?
I never heard any official reason. There was talk at the time that if such legislation had been in place, we would not have got either the Nissan or Toyota plants in Mississippi.
I attended the hearings in the eminent domain case related to the Nissan plant, and the judge ruled in favor of the landowner, saying the state couldn'tt take the land through eminent domain for economic development. The only land that was taken through eminent domain for the Nissan plant was for access roads and other infrastructure that was for true public use.
The same was true for the Toyota plant; the only land taken through eminent domain was for roads for public use.
Haley offered them long term tax exemptions and seized private properties for very little money
This is true the Clarion Ledger ran a couple of stories about below market value payments.
... so that Toyota could build this plant. Every single Mississippian is paying for these jobs... and will for years... some paid with their personal wealth and property... and the upheaval of their lives.
It seems that it was just property and not homes seized in the case of Toyota it was private property that was taken from individuals for access to this plant property and in the case of Nissan the Nissan plant had one home that was under direct threat but was not taken for the plants use itself (court case cited in the linked article) but there were homes taken for public access of right of way. In addition to this, we cut these companies some lucrative tax deals etc..
Now I was wrong (partially) about homes being taken for the direct use for plant property... in the case of Toyota no homes were taken for use on actual plant property... but property was taken to build roads into and out of that facility. I was right that in the case of Nissan... there was one home threatened for direct use... but there were homes taken for the public roads leading into and out of the Nissan plant. Property seizures... even in this case... would not have happened if it were not directly for the fact that this plant was being built and the sole purpose for these roads were to close the deal on building these plants... and who paid for these roads and who paid for that property? WE the people did... through tax receipts... but I was partially wrong and I freely admit that. By focusing on this one subject, you have totally ignored the larger story here.
Haley was involved in a land deal in Stone County, where a convicted (in Florida of the same kind of deal that he was working here in Mississippi) land developer (from Florida) was promising the County Commissioners the moon schools shopping centers golf course tennis courts apartment complexes turning rural Mississippi into an extension of the Gulf Coast the entire dream ticket. They started a few Spec houses and cleared some land Haley sent a representative down to do whatever he could to help implement this plan. Most of the populace saw through this charade and the Sun Herald and WLOX TV ran stories on this fellow and this land deal one contentious “Town Hall Meeting” was held in Wiggins, Ms WLOX ran some video on it... and people were raging... and about 4 months ago the banks that were stuck with the loans from this failed plan... held an auction to liquidate the property they now own they still own a great deal of land.
Many of these companies get these sweet deals... and in the case of Oreck Corporation in Long Beach, Mississippi... when the exemption time passed for tax free sailing... they packed up their plant and moved it to Tennessee... where they cut another 20 year tax free deal... etc etc etc. They should have some protections built into these agreements for the investments of the tax payers... to see to it that this abandonment cannot happen as soon as an agreement ends.
I was not 100% correct... but I was not “wrong”. There are also many cases where homes have been taken for redistribution of wealth... and they are documented... and that is the motivating factor behind the vote tomorrow for a Constitutional Amendment barring this practice... if the problem were not real... there would be no referendum vote tomorrow.