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Antique firearms collector with more than 140 guns is jailed for two years for owning four air(UK)
dailymail.co.uk ^ | 6 November, 2011 | NA

Posted on 11/07/2011 3:34:49 AM PST by marktwain

An antiques firearms collector was jailed for two years after he was found to have four air rifles and ammunition without the correct licences.

When police raided Karl Blennerhassett's luxury flat in Up Holland, West Lancashire, they found more than 140 guns, including racks of rifles and revolvers, a court heard.

Expert examination found that the vast majority were classed as antiques and legally owned but it was the other items which landed him behind bars.

Liverpool Crown Court heard that Blennerhassett, who works for his father's tarmacking business, had previously held a firearms certificate.

However, it was revoked in 2008 after he was convicted and fined for failing to comply with its conditions.

Blennerhassett admitted possessing one air rifle without a certificate, which was just over the permitted velocity limit, and was convicted by a jury of illegally possessing three others which had been modified, and two charges of possessing a bullet.

'Each of these three rifles are deemed specially dangerous under the legislation,' said Judge Mark Brown.

'Each was of high specification in that each had been fitted with a sound moderator and telescopic sight. Each had been modified and modified in a very professional way.'

The judge accepted that Blennerhassett had not modified the weapons himself but he did not accept that he had not known they were modified.

'This is a serious case and I am satisfied you were deliberately flouting the provisions of the Firearms Act,' he said.

The judge said Blennerhassett had decided to sidestep the legislation by having the air rifles modified so that it appeared they were legal when in fact they were not.

The police raid last December also uncovered what was described as an "air rifle kit" involving magazines, pellets and compression springs.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
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He legally owned actual rifles, shotguns, and pistols... but goes to jail for lack of licenses for 4 air rifles! Sound moderators, suppressors, or silencers are much less controled in the UK than in the United States. I do not believe a separate license is necessary for them their, or if it now is, it is quite easy to get.
1 posted on 11/07/2011 3:34:52 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain

They might need those air rifles once their continent starts to burn.


2 posted on 11/07/2011 3:38:14 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: marktwain

Another dangerous criminal off the street.


3 posted on 11/07/2011 3:41:49 AM PST by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: driftdiver

I can understand Britains fear of these guns. When the Muslims finally take complete control they do not want anyone to be armed and able to fight the beneficent immigrant population that will take control their country, formerly the Brits country./s/


4 posted on 11/07/2011 3:42:36 AM PST by Venturer
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To: marktwain

I think it was the “two charges of possessing a bullet” that really put it over the edge.


5 posted on 11/07/2011 3:45:00 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Venturer

Has the last sane person left Britain?


6 posted on 11/07/2011 3:48:21 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: marktwain
I suppose he is fortunate, remember what they did to William Wallace.

BIAIDH NO BAS!

7 posted on 11/07/2011 3:49:07 AM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

THESE are the persecuted refugees we should be allowing into the USA.

Not tons of Mehhicccans and Somalis.


8 posted on 11/07/2011 3:52:12 AM PST by Flintlock (Photo ID for all voters. Let the dead rest in peace.)
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To: marktwain

At least the judge didn’t scream “You’ll shoot your eye out!” at him.


9 posted on 11/07/2011 3:53:14 AM PST by Jaxter ("Pro Aris et Focis")
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To: marktwain

When compression springs are outlawed, only outlaws will have compression springs.


10 posted on 11/07/2011 4:00:42 AM PST by Fresh Wind ('People have got to know whether or not their President is a crook.' Richard M. Nixon)
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To: marktwain
Nick Doherty, defending, said that there was 'no suggestion of any nefarious use of any of these items.'

However, Judge Brown asked the prosecution to write to the Home Office expressing his concerns over the need for legislation for antique firearms.

I am concerned about guns falling into the wrong hands which can have lethal consequences,' he said.

Advice from an old man: Serve your time son and go West. You would be welcome and feel right at home in Texas. England is finished.

11 posted on 11/07/2011 4:02:22 AM PST by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: marktwain

The olde axiom “the Sun never sets on England” has now become “the Sun is setting on England”!
Sir Winston has been forgotten!


12 posted on 11/07/2011 4:11:19 AM PST by GOYAKLA (Re-flush Congress in 2012, some crap remains!)
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To: GOYAKLA

All the usual cliches about the UK on this thread as I expected.

I own three guns, I carry them round in my Land Rover and shoot with them weekly. The licences required are simple and easy to comply with, I’ve never had any problems in twenty years of gun ownership. If people are incapable of complying with firearm licences, they shouldn’t own guns.

PS - your old axiom is very wrong. The sun sets on England everyday, it would be most odd if it didn’t. I think the phrase you were seeking was “The sun never sets on the British Empire” which refers to the fact that somewhere in the world it was always daylight on a part of the empire.


13 posted on 11/07/2011 4:31:30 AM PST by Caulkhead
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To: Caulkhead
You're correct sir . However, here the idea of putting a man in prison for the possession of four air rifles is ludicrous. These stories that come out of England these days defies logic and makes the whole country appear warped and dysfunctional.
14 posted on 11/07/2011 4:48:40 AM PST by MCF
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To: Caulkhead
I own three guns, I carry them round in my Land Rover and shoot with them weekly. The licences required are simple and easy to comply with...

I legally own several rifles and handguns without a single permit having been required.

I can carry open or concealed without a permit.

I do have a concealed carry permit simply because it is reconized by several other states which I visit often. There are several areas in the US that have laws similar to the UK, but it is easy to not go there.

And I have many "unregistered bullets."

15 posted on 11/07/2011 4:49:49 AM PST by CPOSharky (The only thing straight, white, Christian males get is the blame for everything.)
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To: Caulkhead
If people are incapable of complying with firearm licences, they shouldn’t own guns.

Do you own a pistol?

16 posted on 11/07/2011 4:58:46 AM PST by ontap
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To: driftdiver

I am sure there are many Brits left who are sane enough to see what is happening, In America they would be called Tea Partiers.

Unfortunately they are facing the same opposition Tea Partiers are facing in America.

Politicians who are gutless.


17 posted on 11/07/2011 5:00:16 AM PST by Venturer
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To: Venturer

Kinda makes you ponder...

Were the Crusades such a bad idea???

Hindsight being 20/20 of course...hehe


18 posted on 11/07/2011 5:49:07 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: Caulkhead

Licensing for air rifles is ridiculous!

As is pretending “compliance” should be taken in stride.


19 posted on 11/07/2011 5:51:41 AM PST by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: Caulkhead
I own three guns, I carry them round in my Land Rover and shoot with them weekly. The licences required are simple and easy to comply with, I’ve never had any problems in twenty years of gun ownership.

How nice of your government to allow you to comply. And since you licensed them like a good little boy they will be easy for the government to find if they ever decide you don't need them anymore.

If people are incapable of complying with firearm licences, they shouldn’t own guns.

So when the government decides that things are getting too dangerous out there and confiscates your guns (for your own safety, of course)the only ones left armed are the government and the criminals. Even in your fantasy world where only the capable had guns you are still left to the mercy of a bigger, stonger criminal. But don't worry. The government will protect you.

20 posted on 11/07/2011 5:53:55 AM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: G Larry
Licensing for air rifles is ridiculous!

Years ago my Uncle Bob, a man in his 70's who had never so much as had a traffic ticket, decided he wanted the 70th anniversary Daisy Red Ryder. He had owned one as a child and I guess he wanted to relive some fond memories. Just by chance I found out that he had been waiting for over a year to get his New Jersey gun permit approved, for a child's toy! I lived in New Hampshire so I went to my local Service Merchandise (remember them?) to pick one up for him. It turned out they were out of stock but they said that some were available just over the border in Massachusetts. So we went into Haverhill to buy it. The sales clerk told us we would have to go to the police department, apply for a permit, wait for approval, etc. I called my sister, who happened to be in Maine on business, and had her pick one up at Kittery Trading Post. It took her all of 2 minutes. She took it back to NJ and gave it to my Uncle, who kept it proudly displayed over the mantlepiece until the day he died.

21 posted on 11/07/2011 6:06:11 AM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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To: Caulkhead

Can you apply for a handgun permit listing self-defense alone as the reason: Answer: NO

Can the Great Britain pistol shooting team practice in Great Britain: Answer: NO, they have to practice in Switzerland

Do police restrict amount and type of ammo and where and how firearms may be used: Answer: Yes

Can you own a semi-automatic shotgun in Great Britain: Answer: You guessed it!


22 posted on 11/07/2011 6:23:45 AM PST by ImNotLying (Politicians and diapers should be changed often and for the same reason!)
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To: marktwain

One day, probably not in the too far distant future, Britain is going to once again come under attack and they will be begging us for guns AGAIN. My great uncles and my grand parents donated some guns to help them out in WWII.

I will not lift a finger to help them. I will not donate any of my guns just to be destroyed by morons after the crisis is over...not if but when they once again are under attack. I will not donate a single firearm help them out. I would highly recommend that the British citizenry demand their gun rights back and get them before it’s too late.


23 posted on 11/07/2011 6:31:13 AM PST by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: ImNotLying

Sorry, I forgot to mention that your handgun can be a muzzle-loader only! NO OTHERS. Bwahahahaha!


24 posted on 11/07/2011 6:34:36 AM PST by ImNotLying (Politicians and diapers should be changed often and for the same reason!)
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To: stevie_d_64

I am certainly no historian, but IMO the Crusades held back Islam for a thousand years.Now they become strong again, Thanks to our feeding them oil money.

If we are to survive this latest, not so subtle attack on Christianity and attempt to take over the world we will sooner or later have to have another crusade and kill them back enough for another thousand.

I know that sounds like the ramblings of a hate crazed anti-Islamic, but open your mind and see what is happening in Europe, France, England, the Netherlands, even in Muslim dominated parts of our own country.

Europe is facing an invasion of Muslims while we face a Hispanic invasion, and scattered Muslim invasion. Our Resident is inviting more, and paying their way in.

Black Muslims of Farrakhans cult are only fooling themselves,they are not Muslims they are hate filled racist blacks and the real Muslims will deal with them in a strong way if it comes down to that.

Were the Crusades a good idea? I don’t know, but I can see only two things happening with ,Muslims growing stronger every day, We will have to fight or succomb.


25 posted on 11/07/2011 8:47:50 AM PST by Venturer
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To: marktwain

26 posted on 11/07/2011 9:06:38 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom
She should be arrested for gun trafficking! /s
27 posted on 11/07/2011 9:09:37 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open ( <o> ---)
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To: Venturer; BCR #226

We’re pretty much screwed any way you look at it...And there are not enough of us left to put up a decent enough fight...

That doesn’t mean I won’t fight...


28 posted on 11/07/2011 9:25:44 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (I'm jus' sayin')
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To: ImNotLying

‘Can the Great Britain pistol shooting team practice in Great Britain: Answer: NO, they have to practice in Switzerland’.

Isle of Man actually.
Idiotic I agree.

I opposed the 1997 handgun ban, then and now.


29 posted on 11/07/2011 9:38:48 AM PST by the scotsman (I)
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To: Oshkalaboomboom

Sad commentary with a touching result!

I’d expect less hassle in Eastern Europe, 30 years ago.....


30 posted on 11/07/2011 9:41:31 AM PST by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: G Larry; marktwain

Air rifles in the UK dont need a licence unless they exceed a certain power, and are then classed as actual rifles. This man’s ‘air rifles’ are clearly of a calibre that means they are classed as a rifle, and as such has to have a licence.


31 posted on 11/07/2011 9:47:53 AM PST by the scotsman (I)
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To: BCR #226

Most of the kind ww2 guns sent to the UK were actually melted down and used to make guns for the army after the threat of German invasion receded, from 1941/2 onwards. Some left in 1945 may have been disgarded, but the facts are hard to confirm.

p.s who exactly is going to attack us?.


32 posted on 11/07/2011 9:50:56 AM PST by the scotsman (I)
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To: marktwain

Coming soon to a town near you.


33 posted on 11/07/2011 9:59:16 AM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: driftdiver

>> “Has the last sane person left Britain?” <<

.
311 years ago!


34 posted on 11/07/2011 10:00:57 AM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: driftdiver

>> “Has the last sane person left Britain?” <<

.
Correction:

391 years ago!


35 posted on 11/07/2011 10:01:49 AM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: the scotsman

>> “who exactly is going to attack us?”

.
Your own slothful ignorance already has, and completely conquered you.


36 posted on 11/07/2011 10:05:47 AM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: marktwain

I bought a Webley air pistol many years ago. Even back then, there was a note in the box that warned that if I ever had to replace the spring, I should use genuine Webley parts. Springs of unknown origin could raise the velocity to more than what was legal and subject the owner to criminal prosecution. Luckily, I am not in England.


37 posted on 11/07/2011 10:21:29 AM PST by jim_trent
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To: G Larry

There were compressed air repeating weapons used in war to kill people, a long time ago. Current American air rifles don’t go above .22 caliber, IIRC. But a projectile of nearly any acceptable rifle caliber can be accelerated to deadly speed using compressed air. One of my favorites is a twelve shot repeater in .177 caliber, using a compressed gas cylinder. Pesky woodpeckers and invading ground hogs have fallen to it.


38 posted on 11/07/2011 10:30:12 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: the scotsman

Haven’t you heard? It’s da muzlims. Obviously. Snore.


39 posted on 11/07/2011 10:46:48 AM PST by Mitch86
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To: the scotsman

I have rifles.

None licensed.

Never will be!

Licensing never stops criminal violence.

Being armed does!


40 posted on 11/07/2011 11:23:16 AM PST by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: the scotsman
the scotsman said: "p.s who exactly is going to attack us?."

Albert Einstein said, "I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones. "

What human accomplishment convinces you that your nation will never again come under attack?

Do you think that people have universally adopted "democracy" as the solution to all human problems? Or are there significant populations that believe otherwise and who would kill you to make the point?

Of those who claim to espouse "democracy", who among them do you trust not to impose their version of democracy upon you? Who among them doesn't believe that your property, your labor, your children, and your future should all be under the control of the majority?

Are you convinced that you now possess so little in the way of wealth or culture that others will not be motivated by envy to take what you have and destroy what you value?

Be aware that the destructive power of envy will only be increased by the failure of socialist systems around the world. The enormous debts incurred during the last half century will either be repudiated or defaulted. They cannot be repaid.

Will you be among those who are blamed for such economic chaos or will you be among those who blame others? Either way, what will prevent you from suffering greatly because of it? What convinces you that your best days are ahead rather than behind you?

41 posted on 11/07/2011 11:44:15 AM PST by William Tell
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To: editor-surveyor

Ah, the Moozlims, right, gotcha.

I was too distracted by the fact that 97% of the British population is NOT Muslim.


42 posted on 11/07/2011 11:45:32 AM PST by the scotsman (I)
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To: the scotsman

But are you distracted enough to allow your own “British” government to cancel your God given rights?

At least you recognize the muzzie threat, but the real threat is being ignored.


43 posted on 11/07/2011 1:23:38 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: Caulkhead

Oh, so Merry Ole England is not such a bad place to own firearms, which you seem to be implying.

Among your vast collection, are there any .44 magnum revolvers, Thompson machine guns, AK-47s, you know, interesting guns? Not shotguns, no matter how elegant they may appear.

You say that you are not allowed to own such armaments? Pity. We are.


44 posted on 11/07/2011 3:43:46 PM PST by OldPossum
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To: the scotsman; All
Thank you for taking the time to post on this thread with civility and tact.

I had a good friend who was on the Wisconsin university pistol team 40 years ago. She had just come from a visit to the UK where she had acquired a Colt .45. She said the gun laws there were not too bad, all you had to do was join a club.

40 years later, and you are not allowed to own modern pistols. Licenses are required for a number of air guns, subject to considerable police discretion.

We have the Second Amendment of our Constitution, you had an Englishman's right to arms. Because our rights were written down, we have been slower to give in to the progressive disease, and may serve as an example for finding our way back to more freedom.

I think that in many parts of the rural UK, the chains are pretty light and tolerable. The UK still has some freedoms that we have allowed to slip away, such as earning income in another country without it being taxed.

I salute you for your contributions to freerepublic, and look forward to reading them.

45 posted on 11/07/2011 5:07:37 PM PST by marktwain (In an age of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.)
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To: the scotsman

Always assume that there is an aggressor and prepare for it. Peace is fine as long as you are prepared for war.

Britain has lapsed in that regard and at some point, there will be another aggressor who wants to control Europe or the world. If you think it won’t or can’t happen again, you are only fooling yourself.

What I am referring to is that we sent guns to Britain to help in the defense of a friendly nation. Then long after the war, Britain puts draconian restrictions on gun ownership and destroys tens of thousands of guns in the hands of the citizenry. The British citizens were fools to allow disarmament. If they allow their own government to take their ability to defend themselves away, imagine what they’ll do for an invader...


46 posted on 11/07/2011 5:29:53 PM PST by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: BCR #226

If by ‘long after the war’, you are referring to the handgun ban post-Dunblane (1996), the British govt didnt destroy the guns people held at the time of tbe ban. They did have an amnesty to allow people to hand in now-illegal guns, and whilst some handed their guns in, many simply ‘disappeared’.


47 posted on 11/07/2011 10:33:30 PM PST by the scotsman (I)
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To: the scotsman

the fact that it happened is sad. Truly sad. Your government should be ashamed of what it has done.

The fear that the British Government has of firearms, including air rifles is almost laughable except that they also stripped the right of the citizens to effectively defend themselves. The fact that the citizens put up with it is even worse.


48 posted on 11/08/2011 5:02:00 AM PST by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: BCR #226

No disagreement here.

It has happened because Britain has never been a gun owning populace, so there was little opposition to the various laws over the years. Esp. after Hungerford and Dunblane.

Actually I supported the particular ban after Hungerford on assault weapons, oddly enough.


49 posted on 11/08/2011 9:53:29 AM PST by the scotsman (I)
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To: the scotsman

Brave of you to admit that. Not many people would here. I must say I’m impressed with your truthfulness on it.

This is how I see it. I support bans on guns if it applies to everyone. That includes Governments and no exemptions. At that point, once all the guns are gone, I’ll build a ton of new guns and take over. If I don’t do it, someone else will. I promise to be a benign dictator. Really I do. And, if I’m not, whose gonna stop me?

See the problem with gun bans? The people that give up the guns have to trust that those who don’t will be nice to them. They rarely are.


50 posted on 11/08/2011 10:05:07 AM PST by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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