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To: indpndtguy

I said this about Cain the other day, and I still think it’s true:

I really, really like Cain, but I think he’s toast. With as much time as he had to prepare a response, how hard would it have been to say something like this:

“I worked for many years as a successful executive in the business world. During that time, the definition of the term ‘sexual harassment’ was a constantly moving target because it was based on the perceptions and motivations of the accuser. Unfortunately, during my tenure at the National Reataurant Association, there were a couple of women who felt that I had crossed that line, blurry as it was. As a result, they filed complaints against me, the facts of which I have always disputed. Because of the sensitive nature of the subject and the legal costs involved in defending against such complaints, the decision was made in conjunction with our legal counsel to settle these complaints rather than proceed to costly court battles. We always felt we could win on the facts of the cases if we had been forced to proceed, but these types of settlements happen every day in corporate America. One cannot infer anything from a settlement like this unless one has a political axe to grind. Because of the sensitive nature of the complaints and the confidentiality agreements, which bind all parties involved, I won’t comment any further, except to say that if anything I’ve said in my many years in business was taken in the wrong way or made someone uncomfortable, I am sorry that there was such a misunderstanding. My career has been marked by success and respect for and from those who have worked for me and around me. Now I have more important things to discuss like how I am prepared to lead this country out of this disaster-in-the-making that the Obama presidency has become. Thank you.”

I came up with that in five minutes. He had years to prepare something better, but instead, he chose to mislead, obfuscate and conceal, and then he was forced to start changing his story a little at a time. It’s his RESPONSE that bothers me, because it makes me wonder how bad the truth is if he was so set on hiding it.

If he had said something like I suggested, then as details emerged, he could have said “as I’ve said, perceptions differ among people, and I did not believe that I said or did anything that should have made anyone feel uncomfortable. If someone felt that way, it certainly wasn’t my intention and I am sorry that they misunderstood.”

A statement like that would largely insulate him from further criticism about all this. I am almost willing to bet that there is more coming to this story. Even if there isn’t, Cain hasn’t handled this well at all.

Oh, and he also played the race card when he said that he was prepared for a high-tech lynching. I HATE when anyone plays the race card, especially on our side.


62 posted on 11/07/2011 1:25:37 PM PST by RightFighter (It was all for nothing.)
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To: RightFighter
A statement like that would largely insulate him from further criticism about all this.

Here's the problem - your statement might not work in the long run. Years ago a friend who represented companies in sexual harassment cases explained it this way: when the employee (man) is guilty, settle. When the employee is innocent - fight it every step of the way. The logic was companies didn't want sexual harassment turning into winning the lottery. They also knew when a case was not worth defending... The fact that all these cases appear to have been 'settled' isn't good. That said, I agree it was a fuzzy area of the law... and still is...

72 posted on 11/07/2011 1:33:20 PM PST by GOPJ ( Democrats are the only reason to vote for Republicans.... Will Rogers)
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To: RightFighter

Ezxellent observation and sage advice. I wished my 5 minutes of thinking was as productive. I could think 10 minutes then call it a day.


92 posted on 11/07/2011 1:43:22 PM PST by st.eqed
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To: RightFighter

He has handled it poorly, but he has time to recover and learn how to handle these BS attacks. Rats and media will attack whoever the Republican nominee is. How often do you think you will hear the atrocities of “Mormons” from the media if Romney gets it, or how Newt left his wife in hospital if he gets it. At least now they went a bit over the top with Gloria A. and this women in the attack. Won’t work the wheel will now turn. PS he needs to get a better team, his current advisers are not real strong.


96 posted on 11/07/2011 1:45:58 PM PST by GoMonster (GO)
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To: RightFighter
I really, really like Cain, but I think he’s toast.

Toast over this? Surely you jest!

This is the new Obama world, where morals don't count, where rapes (in the Occupy park) don't count, where selling drugs (in the Occupy park) don't count, where men can marry men, women can marry women, babies can be murdered.

The man in the White House advocates violence by the Occupy groups, he ignores the constitution & you think Cain is TOAST OVER THIS?

116 posted on 11/07/2011 1:58:11 PM PST by blondee123 (WWIII, happening now in our streets! Wake up People!)
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To: RightFighter
I won't argue that the Cain campaign - led by Herman Cain - has bungled their handling of these sexual harassment allegations. However, the kind of precise, reasonable hypothetical statement you offered as an example of what you think Cain should have said may seem logical to us but I seriously doubt that it would get any real coverage in the MSM, who are determined to 'stop' Herman Cain. Oh, it might be briefly noted - and instantly dismissed as skirting the issue of whether Cain 'harassed' any female employees. The fact is that the media have different 'rules' for Democrat politicians accused of sexual misconduct. Basically, as with Clinton, the MSM portrays them as wholly innocent until the accuser can be destroyed and thus, dismissed as a nut/slut.

Herman Cain is in a bad spot. This garbage is intended to (a) make him look like a creep and, (b) put him on the defensive all the time and thus, throw his campaign off message - permanently. Sure, this woman is probably lying but she and Gloria Allred know full well that Cain can't disprove her allegations because there were no witnesses and it was too long ago to find any records that might sabotage her account of what allegedly happened between her and Herman Cain during a brief car ride back in 1997. That being the case, I'll stipulate that this definitely hurts Cain's campaign. That you and others are eager to criticize his handling of these accusations may be factual but is hardly helpful - to anyone. What Cain's people need to do is to to try to find some aspect of this woman's story that can be proven false. That is probably not possible due the time lapse involved but it's worth a shot. If some aspect of her story can be proven false, it will put all these accusations into doubt and help thwart the Democrats goal of destroying a good man's public image by making him look like a creep trying to take advantage of women.

If Cain cannot surmount these accusations the public perception of Herman Cain will be badly damaged, which is exactly the point of the accusations that are almost impossible to disprove due to no witnesses or corroborating testimony, one way or the other. We had all said that the 2012 campaign would be brutal and fought 'Chicago style' meaning, in the gutter. Obama can't campaign on his abysmal record so he'll have to try and destroy his opponent's credibility. The media is eager to help him do so. The vicious and constant attacks on non-candidate Sarah Palin were a forerunner of what the Republican presidential nominee will have to deal with. Now we see that the left is trying to effect a pre-emptive strike to take out Herman Cain and likely clear the way for their favorite Republican, Mitt Romney, to take his place. We cannot allow that to happen. Romeny is a RINO of the worst kind and will be happy to 'accommodate' the Democrats all day long. America needs a conservative leader, not a limp, pseudo-Republican that has no core values.

Most conservatives are quite willing to give Mr. Cain the benefit of the doubt (I am) but harping on his handling of the accusations is hardly productive. Because all the accusations seem to stem from a very narrow time period (approximately 12 - 15 years ago) I'm highly suspicious. A man that is sexually aggressive in the way this woman described would have been doing this kind of thing on a regular basis. After all, even then, Herman Cain had power as a senior corporation executive and he certainly could afford to 'buy' any woman he really wanted. That no accusations are lodged against him from any other time frame makes the whole 'scandal' appear manufactured. When the accuser claims that Cain stopped groping her when she objected is damning him with faint praise. Sort of like saying that you're glad to hear that your co-worked stopped beating his wife. Most of us already know that Gloria Allred is a notorious publicity hound and loves to attach herself to alleged victims of 'sexual harassment' so her sudden involvement in this faux scandal is hardly a shock to the Cain campaign or anyone who follows politics. As for your disappointment with Cain 'playing the race card' I agree that is unfortunate. I think he should have saved it for a more opportune moment.

137 posted on 11/07/2011 2:20:42 PM PST by Jim Scott (on the 'Cain Train')
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