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Dem lawmakers seek to end smoking in all federal buildings
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Posted on 11/07/2011 4:46:30 PM PST by Sub-Driver

Dem lawmakers seek to end smoking in all federal buildings By Pete Kasperowicz - 11/07/11 03:55 PM ET

Rep. Susan Davis (D-Calif.) and four other House Democrats on Friday proposed legislation that would completely ban smoking in and around all federal buildings.

The Smoke-Free Buildings Act, H.R. 3382, would build upon a 1997 executive order that banned smoking in most areas of federal buildings, but still allowed for smoking sections. Davis said that decision doesn't fully eliminate the risk of secondhand smoke.

"President Clinton's order was a great first step," Davis said. "But it's time to take the next step and eliminate all smoking in federal buildings. Despite setting aside certain areas for smoking, we know that people still get exposed to secondhand smoke."

Under the bill, no smoking at all would be allowed in or within 25 feet of all federal buildings, a ban that would take effect 90 days after the bill becomes law. It allows each agency to decide how to enforce the ban, and allows for exceptions only related to "research that may benefit public health."

The findings section of the bill says that tobacco smoke contains more than 7,000 chemicals, of which dozens are carcinogens, and says secondhand smoke is responsible for "almost 50,000 deaths in the United States each year." It also points out that the surgeon general of the U.S. has found there is "no safe level of exposure to secondhand smoke," and that creating smoke-free workplaces is the only way to eliminate exposure.

Co-sponsors to the bill are Rep. Diana DeGette (D-Colo.), Del. Eni Faleomavaega (D-American Samoa), Rep. Rush Holt (D-N.J.) and Rep. Gregory Meeks (D-N.Y.).


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: smoking
Having solved all the budget problems we have this priority.....
1 posted on 11/07/2011 4:46:31 PM PST by Sub-Driver
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To: Sub-Driver

I have a feeling this one won’t make it to the floor for a vote. lol


2 posted on 11/07/2011 4:48:14 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Sub-Driver

Long overdue.

This is not a Republican vs. Democrat issue....it’s a health issue.


3 posted on 11/07/2011 4:50:16 PM PST by O6ret (for)
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To: Sub-Driver

The most economically productive way to cut down on smoking in Federal buildings is cut the number of Federal employees working in them.


4 posted on 11/07/2011 4:53:33 PM PST by chuckee
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To: Sub-Driver

How about starting with the White House?


5 posted on 11/07/2011 4:54:35 PM PST by parthian shot
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To: O6ret
Long overdue. This is not a Republican vs. Democrat issue....it’s a health issue.

Agreed.

6 posted on 11/07/2011 4:59:07 PM PST by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: Sub-Driver

This is great! At the margin it’ll decrease the percentage of feds who vote Dem.


7 posted on 11/07/2011 4:59:29 PM PST by NativeNewYorker (Freepin' Jew Boy)
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To: Sub-Driver

The economy is in the toilet, unemployment is skyrocketing, the Muzzies are taking over the world and people are being thrown out of their homes. It’s good to see that the “do nothing Congress” has found something to keep themselves occupied.


8 posted on 11/07/2011 5:00:14 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Stop Government Greed Now!!!!)
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To: Sub-Driver

What are they gonna’ tell Obambi? He still smokes in a federally owned building! Would we be allowed to smoke if we got in a visitor line in our White House? Our resident asshat does.


9 posted on 11/07/2011 5:03:34 PM PST by laweeks
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To: Sub-Driver
"Dem lawmakers seek to end smoking in all federal buildings..."

Unfortunately when the government is paying most of the healthcare bills .... they can now control almost every aspect of the lives of the citizenry under the heading of "Health Care." This is why it is important for a Marxist Socialist movement to first take control of healthcare. The rest then falls like dominos.

10 posted on 11/07/2011 5:07:18 PM PST by R_Kangel (`.`)
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To: Sub-Driver

And yet Democrats refuse to do anything about the wearing of colognes and perfumes that create severe irritation in others.


11 posted on 11/07/2011 5:08:09 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Sub-Driver

The president will be standing out in the rain on Pennsylvania Avenue...


12 posted on 11/07/2011 5:11:22 PM PST by heartwood
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To: O6ret
Long overdue.

This is not a Republican vs. Democrat issue....it’s a health issue.

Really? How so?

Don't suppose you can provide us with any "Peer Reviewed" Scientific study to show CONCLUSIVELY that that Second hand smoke is harmful?

As an aside, if you are interested (and too afraid or lazy to do your own due diligence) I can provide you with a link to the ONLY recognized--albeit "BURIED"--study conducted by none other than the "World Health Organization," proved that 2nd Hand Smoke had NO affect on others who were exposed thereto.

Like GORE-BULL Warming, you should not simply accept what the biased lame stream media puts forth, or worse the wholly corrupt EPA, which FALSIFIED data and was "B-slapped" by a Fed Judge for doing so, re: their phony 2nd hand smoke study!!!

13 posted on 11/07/2011 5:12:05 PM PST by Conservative Vermont Vet (l)
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To: muawiyah

take chill pills before entering...that will curb the urge to smoke and j.k


14 posted on 11/07/2011 5:13:10 PM PST by katiedidit1 ("This is one race of people for whom psychoanalysis is of no use whatsoever." the Irish)
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To: Sub-Driver
"Democracies have been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their death." James Madison

Remember democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide. John Adams: letter to John Taylor, April 15, 1814

The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.:Thomas Jefferson

15 posted on 11/07/2011 5:14:44 PM PST by Rome2000 (OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST CRYPTO-MUSLIM)
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To: Sub-Driver
Why didn't she do this when the Dems ran everything?

I'm stunned this wasn't done years ago. It should've been.

16 posted on 11/07/2011 5:42:34 PM PST by newzjunkey (Republicans will find a way to reelect Obama.)
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To: O6ret

First they came for the communists,
and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a communist.

Then they came for the trade unionists,
and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn’t speak out because I wasn’t a Jew.

Then they came for me
and there was no one left to speak out for me.


17 posted on 11/07/2011 5:45:05 PM PST by YankeeDoodleRebel
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To: parthian shot

Ha! Good one.


18 posted on 11/07/2011 5:45:32 PM PST by Krankor
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To: parthian shot

Ha! Good one.


19 posted on 11/07/2011 5:45:40 PM PST by Krankor
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To: YankeeDoodleRebel
What about Barbara? You forgot about when they came for Barbara.
20 posted on 11/07/2011 5:50:54 PM PST by Krankor
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To: O6ret; Drango
The basis for morality is property rights.

Federal buildings belong to all of us, not just anti- or non-smokers.

21 posted on 11/07/2011 6:06:03 PM PST by elkfersupper (Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: Sub-Driver
secondhand smoke is responsible for "almost 50,000 deaths in the United States each year."

Horse hockey. There is no way to do research on effects of secondhand smoke on anyone other than what they have been brainwashed with.

22 posted on 11/07/2011 6:30:02 PM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: Sub-Driver
If WE can't smoke in any buildings, why should THEY?

Screw the feds - they need to experience the same nanny BS we have to!

23 posted on 11/07/2011 8:20:51 PM PST by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: elkfersupper

I agree, Federal buildings belong to the people.

And smokers have the right to foul their lungs if they choose.

But they don’t have the right to make me inhale their dirty and foul smelling fumes.


24 posted on 11/07/2011 8:36:35 PM PST by O6ret (for)
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To: O6ret

Don’t inhale.


25 posted on 11/07/2011 8:59:12 PM PST by elkfersupper (Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: elkfersupper

Now that’s a thoughtful response, one that clearly meets the “morality” criteria you cite.

I hear that the OWS anarchists still allow smoking.


26 posted on 11/08/2011 11:00:43 PM PST by O6ret (for)
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To: O6ret
It wasn't too long ago that people with no regard for property rights were shot, incarcerated, hanged or all three. Now, they are in charge of almost every aspect of our daily lives.

Where is the morality in that?

27 posted on 11/09/2011 4:21:34 AM PST by elkfersupper (Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: elkfersupper

No matter how you try to twist the facts smoking in Gov’t buildings (or the banning of it) is not a property rights issue. It’s a human rights issue...you have the right to smoke but you don’t have the right to force me to live with the stinky, poisonous consequences of that dirty habit.


28 posted on 11/09/2011 5:59:56 PM PST by O6ret (for)
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To: O6ret

How about smoking outside Federal buildings in open air?


29 posted on 11/09/2011 7:03:10 PM PST by YankeeDoodleRebel
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To: O6ret

How about smoking outside Federal buildings in open air?


30 posted on 11/09/2011 7:03:16 PM PST by YankeeDoodleRebel
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To: O6ret

So, every time you go into a federal building, somebody chains you to an immovable object.

Now I understand.


31 posted on 11/09/2011 11:14:35 PM PST by elkfersupper (Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: YankeeDoodleRebel

Go for it.


32 posted on 11/13/2011 4:16:06 AM PST by O6ret (for)
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To: elkfersupper

Maybe we should let all non-smokers take a break whenever smokers decide light up.

Or we could have ventilation hoods installed over the desks of smokers.


33 posted on 11/13/2011 4:23:12 AM PST by O6ret (for)
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To: Conservative Vermont Vet

You beat me to it
Funny how some of these so called conservatives turn into raving Facists when it comes to smoking.
If 2nd hand smoke killed,my dad’s Old Golds would have dropped me in about 1959.


34 posted on 11/13/2011 5:14:24 AM PST by coolbreeze (giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teen-age boys.)
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To: O6ret
Or maybe people could adapt, not accept the propaganda about 2nd and 3rd-hand smoke and just quit bitchin'.

I'll quit bitchin' about fat chicks if a few of you will quit bitchin' about willingly running into a tobacco fume.

Theoretically, you could control when you run into a tobacco fume. I have no way to control running into fat chicks, other than to give them their own country.

35 posted on 11/13/2011 11:44:25 AM PST by elkfersupper (Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: elkfersupper

Smoking is a dirty, filthy, smelly habit that is also known to kill people. I’m sorry that you don’t have the self control to quit.

If you feel so strongly about your property rights being abridged perhaps you should hire a lawyer and go after those nasty Gov’t bureaucrats who want to deprive you.


36 posted on 11/14/2011 12:15:03 AM PST by O6ret (for)
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To: O6ret
Smoking is a dirty, filthy, smelly habit that is also known to kill people. I’m sorry that you don’t have the self control to quit.

So is overeating. Where do you draw the line where government gets involved?

If you feel so strongly about your property rights being abridged perhaps you should hire a lawyer and go after those nasty Gov’t bureaucrats who want to deprive you.

Underway, thank you. Get ready to have your statist a$$ handed to you.

37 posted on 11/14/2011 4:02:34 PM PST by elkfersupper (Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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To: elkfersupper

So you’re a skinny smoker. I’m a skinny non-smoker. Still doesn’t give you the right to foul the air where others have to work.

It seems you want to tie this to being fat but your logic is flawed...over-eating and smoking in Gov’t buildings are two separate issues.


38 posted on 11/15/2011 12:10:01 PM PST by O6ret (for)
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To: O6ret
Statists want to use the state and its armaments to impose their will upon people.

Free men (what few are left) seek to oppose that and fight it where they can win it.

Which camp do you fall into?

39 posted on 11/15/2011 3:56:59 PM PST by elkfersupper (Member of the Original Defiant Class)
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