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Raw milk supporters rally around 'criminal' moms
The Washington Times ^ | November 2, 2011 | Jessica Claire Haney

Posted on 11/07/2011 6:53:17 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

SILVER SPRING, Maryland, November 2, 2011 – They escaped arrest. The “raw milk freedom riders” who illegally transported raw milk from a farm in Pennsylvania to FDA headquarters in Silver Spring, Maryland and then drank it and distributed it to a crowd rallied in support of their efforts got away with their crime.

As reported yesterday in this column, this group of raw milk activists planned the ride and rally to protest government restrictions on the sale of raw milk and the spending of taxpayer money to raid and bankrupt small family farms.

The rally began at noon as the swelling crowd gathered to hear speakers and await the arrival of the caravan, which, after celebrating its arrest-free arrival, gave out milk and cookies for all to enjoy.

In the crowd of 150 were raw milk supporters from Massachusetts, Wisconsin, New Jersey, Minnesota, and Ohio and throughout the DC Metro area. Said Kimberly Hartke, publicist for the Weston A. Price Foundation: 

“The rally was celebratory, as the moms, with joy, took back their power and acted out their food sovereignty as citizens of a free country.”

Organizer Karine Bouis-Towe of the Farm Food Freedom Coalition read a statement from the Obama administration that said:

“Barack Obama and Joe Biden recognize that local and regional food systems are better for our environment and will support family-scale producers. They will emphasize the need for Americans to buy fresh and local.”

(Excerpt) Read more at communities.washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Maryland
KEYWORDS: ban; donutwatch; fda; nannystate; rawmilk
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1 posted on 11/07/2011 6:53:20 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: Eric Blair 2084; SheLion; Gabz; Hank Kerchief; 383rr; libertarian27; traviskicks; bamahead; CSM; ...

Nanny State PING!


2 posted on 11/07/2011 6:55:07 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I pray that you all go to NaturalNews. The Health Ranger Mike Adams.
Great Guy, all over this subject!


3 posted on 11/07/2011 6:58:48 PM PST by acapesket
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
They want to drink raw milk? Go for it.

I don't find the authority in the Constitution for the federal government to regulate milk.

Myself, missing a spleen, I'll take mine pasturized and dried and in baked goods. ;)

/johnny

4 posted on 11/07/2011 6:59:03 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I drank raw milk once when i was 9

I was visiting a girl from school for the weekend...

We took our Corn Flakes out to the pasture, caught one of the cows and milked her right there so we would have hot milk on our cereal

the girl was used to the milk...

I got Yellow Jaundice a type of hepatitis


5 posted on 11/07/2011 7:00:33 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: JRandomFreeper

correct.

wait until someone gets listeria.


6 posted on 11/07/2011 7:08:40 PM PST by ken21
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

All my siblings and I were raised on raw milk that is until we were a year or so old and Mother weaned us.


7 posted on 11/07/2011 7:11:00 PM PST by yarddog
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To: Tennessee Nana

That is very unfortunate.

I was the oldest of 6 brats and we were brought up on raw milk. We made our own butter from the cream too.

We were never sick and so far, I have made it to 63. ;>)

I don’t drink it anymore, but probably would if I could get it without having to raise a cow.


8 posted on 11/07/2011 7:14:02 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~... Newt/Cain 2012..."Save a pretzel for the gas jets.")
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To: acapesket

He’s the best, love his reports!


9 posted on 11/07/2011 7:14:26 PM PST by Borax Queen
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To: ken21

There seems to be a kind of detente in the restaurant industry where if you warn on your menu about possible food borne illness from certain kinds of foods, then the FDA considers it not necessary to nose further into your business. Doubtless the reason we do not see an analogous accommodation in the raw-milk biz is because the big money isn’t there to fight the nanny state. But it would make no less sense.


10 posted on 11/07/2011 7:18:41 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (ya don't tug on Superman's cape/ya don't spit into the wind--and ya don't speak well of Mitt to Jim!)
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To: ken21
Some can. Some can't. I know I'm compromised because of the missing spleen.

I've had raw milk, raw eggs, steak tartar (including the raw egg yolk garnish), and even chicken sushi. But that was before.

After, I really have to watch things like that now.

But Fed-Gov has no place telling me what to eat, or not, even if listeria is around.

/johnny

11 posted on 11/07/2011 7:23:01 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (gone Galt)
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To: ken21

Listeria is far more likely from pasteurized milk; the daries that produce it are unbelievably filthy.

Raw milk contains active colostrum, which makes it much safer than pasteurized.


12 posted on 11/07/2011 7:27:28 PM PST by editor-surveyor (No Federal Sales Tax - No Way!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

This is the same crowd that demands that the government pass all sorts of laws to hinder non-”organic” farming and promote “organic” farming.


13 posted on 11/07/2011 7:29:32 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I raised Nubian goats for a few years and simply loved the raw milk. Not a bit of goaty taste and I miss raw milk a lot. The stuff in stores is a poor substitute. (goat milk in stores even my dog won’t drink)


14 posted on 11/07/2011 7:35:05 PM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Did you know that the GOVT mandated spraying cold cuts with silica (silicon) in order to prevent Listeria? It used to be an uncommon disease.

Silicon is NOT a welcome visitor to the human body.

Just sayin’.


15 posted on 11/07/2011 7:35:28 PM PST by acapesket
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To: American in Israel

I’ve heard there are no carbs in raw milk. That all pastuerized milk has sugar added. Is that true?


16 posted on 11/07/2011 7:38:14 PM PST by Terry Mross (Where is the OPPOSITION party? I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Pasteurized milk was invented to prevent disease, and it did the trick quite well.

This invention was necessary because the dairies were producing raw milk that frequently caused serious illness.

Colostrum was in the raw milk back then, too, and yet there was a serious disease problem that led the world to adopt pasteurization.

Facts are always helpful.

As we can read elsewhere on the internet:

Proponents of unpasteurized milk make the unfounded and incorrect argument that if milk is obtained from humanely raised cows that are grass fed and handled hygienically, then there is little problem with disease. However, raw milk can become contaminated in a number of ways: by coming into contact with cow feces or bacteria living on the skin of cows, from an infection of the cow’s udder, or from dirty equipment, among others. Raw milk is responsible for nearly three times more hospitalizations than any other foodborne disease outbreak, making it one of the world’s most dangerous food products.


17 posted on 11/07/2011 7:42:54 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: Notwithstanding

Should you adore eating chemically/pesticide
sprayed foods,
Go for it.

I think my family and I will “take a pass”.


18 posted on 11/07/2011 7:45:46 PM PST by acapesket
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To: acapesket

Ever since they’ve been sprayin’ them thar chemicals and pesticides, in the developed world people have been healthier and loved longer, and hunger is non-existent.

If you want to pass on that, go for it. I LOVE LOVE LOVE chemicals and pesticides. They have been a great blessing to the people of the world.


19 posted on 11/07/2011 7:55:39 PM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: Terry Mross

No sugar is added to milk, unless some other flavoring (e.g., chocolate) is being added. The milk sugar, lactose, is put there by the cow.

I would not drink raw milk under any conditions. No matter how clean the dairy (and no dairy is ever spotless), cows are prone to any number of illnesses—including rabies—which can end up in the milk.


20 posted on 11/07/2011 7:58:29 PM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I would not personally drink raw milk but I’ll fight for their right to drink it.


21 posted on 11/07/2011 8:08:57 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Gator113
I was the oldest of 6 brats and we were brought up on raw milk. We made our own butter from the cream too. We were never sick and so far, I have made it to 63. ;>)

'brought up on a north woods farm - with our two cows, their milk, cream and butter. Same as everyone else we knew. As did people for thousands of years.

Hellava lot healthier than all the processed, GMO's, chemicalized foods and milk full of growth hormones and antibiotics and pus. Yes, pus. and drinks and baked goods full of HFCO,

I don't drink much milk nowadays, but I use organic whole. (and organic butter) I have a farmer down the road that delivers my order for eggs and vegetables right to my doorstep every week, I leave money in a cooler on the porch. How simple is that.

I'm 76 -

22 posted on 11/07/2011 8:32:42 PM PST by maine-iac7 (ALWAYS WATCH THE OTHER HAND)
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To: Tennessee Nana
Fresh whole milk! Yummy!


23 posted on 11/07/2011 8:33:16 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I am a firm believer in not just raw milk, but wholesome, natural, unrefined foods in the diet. Weston A. Price Foundation is very worthwhile, and their educational website has been a real blessing.
24 posted on 11/07/2011 8:36:23 PM PST by redhead (Don't START with me...you know how I get.)
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To: Notwithstanding

ROFL That’s why none of us are really here. We all grew up on raw milk as our parents and their parents and their…… well you get the picture. That’s why none of us are really here.


25 posted on 11/07/2011 8:37:01 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Most Americans do not realize that Food Freedom is at risk. That big agribusiness, through its enforcement arm, the FDA, is actively suppressing small farms who produce raw dairy. I imagine that type A2 beta casein will never see the light of day in our supermarkets.
26 posted on 11/07/2011 8:40:09 PM PST by blackpacific
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To: exDemMom

If no sugar is added why does low fat and 2% have more sugar? I remember Atkins saying they add the sugar to give it some taste once the fat is removed.


27 posted on 11/07/2011 9:04:27 PM PST by Terry Mross (Where is the OPPOSITION party? I'll only vote for a SECOND party.)
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To: Gator113

Me too, and my kids and some of my grandkids.
You know something? I fear raw milk less than those immunizations they all try to mandate on us.


28 posted on 11/07/2011 9:10:24 PM PST by bog trotter
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Thanks for the ping!


29 posted on 11/07/2011 9:12:46 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Abundy; Albion Wilde; AlwaysFree; AnnaSASsyFR; bayliving; BFM; cindy-true-supporter; ...

People actually rallying for Food Freedom in Maryland!

Maryland “Freak State” PING!


30 posted on 11/07/2011 9:13:28 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Occupy DC General Assembly: We are Marxist tools. WE ARE MARXIST TOOLS!)
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To: maine-iac7

“I’m 76 - “

I hope to see how that is. ;>)

We use organic butter and I no longer use much milt and we have our own chicken, duck and goose eggs. I’m up to 60 birds. LOL


31 posted on 11/07/2011 9:30:31 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~... Newt/Cain 2012..."Save a pretzel for the gas jets.")
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To: bog trotter

I have the same concerns about all of the junk that is now in our food.


32 posted on 11/07/2011 9:33:25 PM PST by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~... Newt/Cain 2012..."Save a pretzel for the gas jets.")
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To: ken21
wait until someone gets listeria.

I'm less worried about someone getting listeria, assuming they know what they're consuming, than I am about the government presuming they have the authority to delve into this aspect of my (or anyone's) life.

33 posted on 11/07/2011 10:20:41 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; SunkenCiv; Red_Devil 232; tubebender; Diana in Wisconsin; JustaDumbBlonde
Then they came for the milk, but...

Then they came for the eggs, but...

Then they came for the honey, but...

Now, they're coming for MY zucchini!

34 posted on 11/07/2011 11:11:54 PM PST by ApplegateRanch ("Public service" does NOT mean servicing the people, like a bull among heifers.)
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To: ken21
wait until someone gets listeria.

Shouldn't matter, IF the government wasn't paying the health care bill.

Get the government out of the health care business, and a LOT of their "justification" for nanny-statism evaporates.

Freedom includes the freedom to die from the consequences of your own ignorance, stupidity, pig headedness, or experiments.

35 posted on 11/07/2011 11:20:48 PM PST by ApplegateRanch ("Public service" does NOT mean servicing the people, like a bull among heifers.)
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To: bog trotter; All

`_____those mmunizations they all try to mandate on us.’

Such good posts here, don’t know who to respond to, then picked your post.

Our 4 daughters were raised on raw milk, delivered to the doorstep from a local dairy, around the 1970’s.
Since cow’s milk is for baby calves, our girls were not encouraged to drink milk past the age of about 12. There is calcium, better utilized, from foods other than milk.

Raw milk dairies are held to a higher cleanliness standard than others.

A few weeks ago I had this huge post going on the raw milk subject with a fellow Freeper.
And here it is again!

We continue to get raw cheese products, from the health food store.

Will fight mandated dangerous vaccines - all vaccines, actually. We consider all vaccines dangerous.

There is a provision on school forms to skip vaccines, thank God.

And yep, we are quite right of center!


36 posted on 11/07/2011 11:50:29 PM PST by USARightSide ( * SUPPORTING OUR TROOPS * Click on my screen name)
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To: Notwithstanding; editor-surveyor; acapesket
by coming into contact with cow feces or bacteria living on the skin of cows, from an infection of the cow’s udder, or from dirty equipment, among others.

Wasn't "handled hygienically" in those cases then, was it? It's a wonder you didn't mention a worker sneezing into the bucket, too.

And when you talk about "Raw milk is responsible for nearly three times more hospitalizations than any other foodborne disease outbreak, making it one of the world’s most dangerous food products," you're conflating unsupervised, unregulated (in any meaningful way) Developing Countries (e.g. China) commercial enterprises; and Third World farmer families who have never heard of soap & water, let alone refrigeration, bacteria or disinfectants; with milk "handled hygienically". This a lie via true, but mostly irrelevant, statistics. Dishonest, to say the least

In any case, deceptively selling raw to the public at large, is not the same as selling to willing customers who are seeking the product, and should not be the government's business.

37 posted on 11/07/2011 11:58:01 PM PST by ApplegateRanch ("Public service" does NOT mean servicing the people, like a bull among heifers.)
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To: Terry Mross
If no sugar is added why does low fat and 2% have more sugar? I remember Atkins saying they add the sugar to give it some taste once the fat is removed.

I Googled milk nutrition facts, and didn't see a difference in carbs between skim, 2%, and whole milk. They all had 12 or 13g carbs per serving.

It is true that some processed foods have sugar added to replace removed fat.

38 posted on 11/08/2011 3:17:13 AM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: Notwithstanding

I have read that statement about raw milk, also, but cannot find it now that I am looking for it.

Please include the html reference for items you post from the internet.


39 posted on 11/08/2011 3:36:57 AM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: ApplegateRanch
Wasn't "handled hygienically" in those cases then, was it? It's a wonder you didn't mention a worker sneezing into the bucket, too.

I have yet to see cows that are worried about hygiene. It really makes no difference how hygienically the milk is handled; those cows are out there grazing in the same pasture where they and other animals poop, flies tend to breed where livestock is kept, and cows have frequent contact with wild animals. It is impossible to raise cows in a pathogen-free environment.

And when you talk about "Raw milk is responsible for nearly three times more hospitalizations than any other foodborne disease outbreak, making it one of the world’s most dangerous food products," you're conflating unsupervised, unregulated (in any meaningful way) Developing Countries (e.g. China) commercial enterprises; and Third World farmer families who have never heard of soap & water, let alone refrigeration, bacteria or disinfectants; with milk "handled hygienically". This a lie via true, but mostly irrelevant, statistics. Dishonest, to say the least

I have seen that statement before. I cannot find the original statement now that I am looking for it, but I'm fairly certain that it is talking strictly about US foodborne illnesses, which are tracked by the CDC.

In any case, deceptively selling raw to the public at large, is not the same as selling to willing customers who are seeking the product, and should not be the government's business.

A list of all pathogens known to be found in raw milk and raw milk products should be included on the label. Placing a poster of typical microbial analysis of raw milk samples nearby would be nice, too. Shouldn't people who choose to risk their health by using raw milk pay higher health insurance premiums, so the rest of us won't be subsidizing their choices?

40 posted on 11/08/2011 3:56:59 AM PST by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: exDemMom

Do not deceive yourself into thinking that the CDC does anything to protect your health. They are way too busy building a health club and spa in Atlanta.


41 posted on 11/08/2011 4:40:10 AM PST by acapesket
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To: Tennessee Nana

“I got Yellow Jaundice a type of hepatitis”

I had an infant brother who died of complications of Yellow Jaundice around 1940, (Before I was born) easily treated with Bili light nowadays.

Bili light:

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/002394.htm


42 posted on 11/08/2011 5:42:14 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Of course Obama loves his country but Herman Cain loves mine.)
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To: ApplegateRanch

Thanks for the ping. I fully support those that choose raw milk. The real criminals are the thug officials that raid farms, confiscate possessions and traumatize families for doing nothing more than producing and/or drinking their choice of a natural product.


43 posted on 11/08/2011 7:34:32 AM PST by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar; Tennessee Nana; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; Eric Blair 2084; SheLion; Gabz; ...
***Fresh whole milk! Yummy!***

Where did my picture go!

And yes, I also was raised on raw milk. Try it when a cow has grazed on green grass with wild onions growing in the field. the meat is even worse!

44 posted on 11/08/2011 8:13:26 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“local and regional food systems are better for our environment and will support family-scale producers. They will emphasize the need for Americans to buy fresh and local.”

Funny, this was just debunked on “Stossel” last time.

All this Enviro-Mental and “natural” crap is just that - crap.


45 posted on 11/08/2011 8:25:45 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: exDemMom

I found it in several places. Just google it.


46 posted on 11/08/2011 8:34:30 AM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: exDemMom

How dare you suggest that
granola head organic snake oil salesmen
should be honest about their product! /sarc

(what follows is not directed to you, exDemMom)

This is eco-green crapola no different than globaloney man-made warming. If its it a person’s hobby, then just say so, but it is always dishonestly couched as the healthy alternative to something evil. A crisis. The sky is falling. Something else to spend money on. I don’t have time or patience to assist and subsidize people who want to luxuriate in their hobbies.

Unless a person will be paying cash for all treatment in a fully private hospital (subsidized not at all by the government) when their family gets severely ill due to e-coli or listeria or jaundice from the raw milk, then damn right its my business to denounce this non-scientific feel-good back-to-nature ideology that is shared by the enviro-whackos.

Given the same cow, pasteurization alone has no effect on the nutrition, taste or texture of that cow’s milk. Its the homogenization of that same milk (pasteurized or not) that changes that same milk’s nutrition, taste and texture. It is dishonest to conflate the two processes (Past. & Homog.).

And if a person does like the taste and texture of non-homogenized milk, then they stir a little heavy cream into a glass of homogenized milk.

I really pity people who make such things a priority in their lives. It reminds me of Oprah.


47 posted on 11/08/2011 9:23:32 AM PST by Notwithstanding
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To: Terry Mross
We never added sugar, got a fancy pasteurizer and about never used it. I know there are agents in raw milk that really help with arthritis, but they neutralized with pasteurization. The active agent was discovered by a guy name Wultzan or W something. It has been nicknamed vitamin W.

Fascism has taken over America, so that the big corporations are destroying the small producers to squeeze a bit more out of the markets. A little bribe to our Politicians and they have a monopoly.

Sad thing, the more corporations control health, the worse our health is. Most things I believe can be cured with nutrition, something sorely lacking in the industrialized food system.

48 posted on 11/08/2011 9:32:20 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Notwithstanding

“it is always dishonestly couched as the healthy alternative to something evil. A crisis. The sky is falling. Something else to spend money on.”

This. Exactly.

They act as if all these EEEEVVILLL “chemicals” (hint: that’s what the world is MADE OF, genius) are killing everyone.

Well, excuse me for being in highly populated areas all my life with low access to “natural” products, but I’m not seeing or even hearing about people dying at young ages all the time due to XXXX or YYYY “chemical poisoning”.

It’s ludicrous.


49 posted on 11/08/2011 9:36:22 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: USARightSide

Vaccines are far far far far far far less dangerous than the diseases they prevent.

Families that don’t vaccinate are freeloading. Such families enjoy the huge advantage of living in a society that has nearly eradicated the danger of these diseases through mass vaccination, yet these families have no skin in the game because they won’t accept the minute risk a vaccine poses. Vaccination programs eradicate disease only if the vaccinations are virtually universal; these families set themselves up as primadonna exceptions to the rules that little people have to follow. Families who don’t vaccinate are selfish to the nth degree.

There is a huge problem with some vaccines, but it is that some are derived from human embryos. I can understand refusing such vaccines as immoral. But most vaccines we were asked to give to our children were not derived that way.


50 posted on 11/08/2011 9:36:43 AM PST by Notwithstanding
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