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Wisconsin governor: It's a 'Christmas' tree - not 'holiday' tree
pioneer press ^ | 11-8-11 | scott bauer

Posted on 11/08/2011 5:31:32 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB

Walker said Monday that the evergreen decorated with ornaments and adorned with a star in the center of Wisconsin's Capitol Rotunda is a Christmas tree, not a holiday tree as it's been called for the past 25 years.

The roughly 30-foot-tall tree was called a Christmas tree from the first display in 1916 until 1985. That's when politicians bowed to concerns about government endorsing religion and started referring to it as a holiday tree.

The Madison-based Freedom From Religion Foundation has opposed the term Christmas tree, saying it offends nonreligious people and amounts to a government endorsement of Christianity.

The president of that group, Annie Laurie Gaylor, called Walker's decision rude and insensitive to non-Christians.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: christmas; holiday; tree; walker; waronchristmas; waronchristmas2011
WI, I'll trade you our gov, Marx Dayton, for yours.
1 posted on 11/08/2011 5:31:34 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB
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To: WOBBLY BOB
Annie Laurie Gaylor, called Walker's decision rude and insensitive to non-Christians.
TFB ... go pi$$ up a rope.
2 posted on 11/08/2011 5:34:02 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Has he officially been labeled a racist yet (for this, I mean).


3 posted on 11/08/2011 5:34:44 AM PST by YourAdHere (If Michael Jackson had gone to jail he'd probably still be alive. Just saying.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Scott Walker is politically incorrect.

I’d like to see him be our next President.


4 posted on 11/08/2011 5:34:52 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: oh8eleven

Please accept with no obligation, implied or implicit, my best wishes for an environmentally conscious, socially responsible, low-stress, non-addictive, gender-neutral celebration of the winter solstice holiday, practiced within the most enjoyable traditions of the religious persuasion of your choice, or secular practices of your choice, with respect for the religious/secular persuasion and/or traditions of others, or their choice not to practice religious or secular traditions at all.

I also wish you a fiscally successful, personally fulfilling and medically uncomplicated recognition of the onset of the generally accepted calendar year 2010, but not without due respect for the calendars of choice of other cultures whose contributions to society have helped make America great. Not to imply that America is necessarily greater than any other country nor the only America in the Western Hemisphere .

Also, this wish is made without regard to the race, creed, color, age, physical ability, religious faith or sexual preference of the wishee.

By accepting these greetings, you are accepting the aforementioned terms as stated. This greeting is not subject to clarification or withdrawal. It is freely transferable with no alteration to the original greeting.

It implies no promise by the wisher to actually implement any of the wishes for herself/himself/others, and is void where prohibited by law and is revocable at the sole discretion of the wisher.

This wish is warranted to perform as expected within the usual application of good tidings for a period of one year or until the issuance of a subsequent holiday greeting, whichever comes first, and warranty is limited to replacement of this wish or issuance of a new wish at the sole discretion of the wisher.


5 posted on 11/08/2011 5:36:37 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (See ya later, debt inflator ! Gone in 4 (2012))
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To: WOBBLY BOB

It’s a “Christmas Wishing Tree”

Ask Obama


6 posted on 11/08/2011 5:36:42 AM PST by Mr. K (The enemy of my enemy is my candidate.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

“The Madison-based Freedom From Religion Foundation has opposed the term Christmas tree, saying it offends nonreligious people and amounts to a government endorsement of Christianity.”

Well they offend me and its does NOT amount to an official government endorsement of Christianity, just an acknowledgement of the fact that 80 percent of Americans are Christians and that are Nation was founded on and based on Judeo/Christian values


7 posted on 11/08/2011 5:36:52 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Your results may vary.


8 posted on 11/08/2011 5:38:01 AM PST by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: WOBBLY BOB
Have a RamaHanaKwanzMas, it's the PC time of year...
(my favorite Glenn Beck song)
9 posted on 11/08/2011 5:38:16 AM PST by DTxAg
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To: goldstategop

The president of that group, Annie Laurie Gaylor, called Walker’s decision rude and insensitive to non-Christians.

Well lady I consider you rude, insensitive and offensive.


10 posted on 11/08/2011 5:38:52 AM PST by SECURE AMERICA (Where can I sign up for the New American Revolution and the Crusades 2012?)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Unfortunately, for too damned many Cheese State voters, one of the best governors in the USA is being maligned for putting State first and himself second.

One of our most honorable men in politics is being maligned by a vicious campaign financed and carried out by rats who align themselves with Obozo and his scheme to destroy this nation!


11 posted on 11/08/2011 5:39:17 AM PST by IbJensen (What this country needs are more unemployed politicians.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

One. Annie Gaylor is a braindead ditz. What the hell does a Christmas tree have to do with Christianity? Two. The First Amendment doesn’t say a damn thing about not “offending” anybody. Gaylor needs to get a life and leave the rest of us alone. What a pig.


12 posted on 11/08/2011 5:40:17 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Stop Government Greed Now!!!!)
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To: goldstategop

Political correctness is how we got into this quandry in the first place.

PC is not designed to make people “nicer”, it is a form of intimidation to force the majority to be ashamed of their opinions, and make that majority conform to the demands of the few.

But there is no way to be nice to a porcupine. Try, and you end up with quills sticking out all over you.


13 posted on 11/08/2011 5:40:39 AM PST by alloysteel (Are Democrats truly "better angels"? They are lousy stewards for America.)
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To: oh8eleven
amounts to a government endorsement of Christianity.

I'd respond with, "Why,yes,it does,doesn't it? Good.We've made the correct impression,then.Now,let's move on."
14 posted on 11/08/2011 5:41:02 AM PST by gimme1ibertee ("Criticism......brings attention to an unhealthy state of things"-Winston Churchill)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

The govt is forbidden to be rude and insensitive, it’s in the Constipation ya know. That’s why we killed the king in eighteen sumptin.


15 posted on 11/08/2011 5:41:15 AM PST by Lady Lucky
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To: WOBBLY BOB

LOL, that’s a keeper!


16 posted on 11/08/2011 5:43:55 AM PST by Lady Lucky
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To: WOBBLY BOB

From Dennis Prager last night:

When someone greets him with “Happy Holidays”, he responds, “Which Holidays did you have in mind?”


17 posted on 11/08/2011 5:46:23 AM PST by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: G Larry

Everybody knows the “Happy Holidays” come in February.

You know, Groundhog’s Day, Lincoln’s Birthday, Valentine’s Day, Washington’s Birthday, Leap Year Day....


18 posted on 11/08/2011 5:52:05 AM PST by alloysteel (Are Democrats truly "better angels"? They are lousy stewards for America.)
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To: SECURE AMERICA
Doesn't she mean, "...insensitive to anti-Christians."?
19 posted on 11/08/2011 5:54:56 AM PST by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: oh8eleven

“Annie Laurie Gaylor, called Walker’s decision rude and insensitive to non-Christians.
TFB ... go pi$$ up a rope.”

Is that a physical possibility?? Just asking.


20 posted on 11/08/2011 5:55:59 AM PST by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

God Bless him


21 posted on 11/08/2011 5:56:40 AM PST by NonValueAdded (At 4 AM, it is a test; at 2 PM, it is a demonstration)
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To: NonValueAdded

I’m trying to figure out what the hell “offends” means?? Offends goes to purpose...The Christmas Tree offends no one.


22 posted on 11/08/2011 5:58:56 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: oh8eleven; Mrs. B.S. Roberts

Annie Laurie Gaylor finds the sight of a CHRISTMAS TREE rude and offensive and demands they be removed.
I seem to remember that in 1930’s Nazi Germany, there were those who found the sight of STARS of DAVID, rude and offensive and they demanded the loathed symbols be removed.
I remember they were and we saw the end result.
Annie Laurie Gaylor stays true to her beliefs.


23 posted on 11/08/2011 5:59:01 AM PST by CaptainAmiigaf (NY TIMES: "We print the news as it fits our views")
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To: WOBBLY BOB

When they have the diverse displays (which I support) do they call the thingy next to the illuminated tree a “Holiday Candelabra”?


24 posted on 11/08/2011 6:02:44 AM PST by Atlas Sneezed (Author of BullionBible.com - Makes You a Precious Metal Expert, Guaranteed.)
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To: SECURE AMERICA

The whole point of her organization is to hate religion. And she’s worrying about offending someone? By shunning the central essence of the way in which another views the world?

You can mark me down as being a supporter of anything opposed by the Freedom from Religion Foundation. I don’t even need to know the issue.


25 posted on 11/08/2011 6:17:35 AM PST by CaspersGh0sts
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To: WOBBLY BOB

And what other Holiday traditionally decorates a tree?

If the answer is “none”, then a “Holiday tree” is nothing more or less than a “Christmas tree”.

I don’t see anyones concerns about “offense” when everyone clearly knows what “holiday” a “Holiday Tree” refers to.


26 posted on 11/08/2011 6:30:08 AM PST by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: SECURE AMERICA

“..the fact that 80 percent of Americans are Christians and that are Nation was founded on and based on Judeo/Christian values”

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This means that calling it a Christmas tree will offend 20% of the population instead of offending 80% of the population by NOT calling it what it is, a Christmas tree.


27 posted on 11/08/2011 6:31:32 AM PST by 101voodoo
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To: oh8eleven

This Buddhist says, “Amen!”


28 posted on 11/08/2011 6:34:04 AM PST by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: G Larry

When they wish me happy holidays, I return with....... “and a Merry Christmas to you also.......”


29 posted on 11/08/2011 7:00:53 AM PST by sniper63 (If Obama pats himself on the back anymore, his shoulder will dislocate.....)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

I love this man. I wish I could help him against all the vermin out there.


30 posted on 11/08/2011 7:02:13 AM PST by TribalPrincess2U (WE ARE AMERICA! DONATE TO FR MORE!)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Freedom From Religion Foundation?

Here in America it’s FREEDOM OF RELIGION.

You are rude and insensitive.
Go live somewhere else. No one is pushing religion on you.


31 posted on 11/08/2011 7:04:59 AM PST by TribalPrincess2U (WE ARE AMERICA! DONATE TO FR MORE!)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

I’ll see your gov trade and raise you both legislative houses here in MD.

Wisconsin, you would get Martin O’Malley, just about as far left of Obama as any governor can be, and a state house full of liberal idiots.


32 posted on 11/08/2011 7:17:46 AM PST by Bigg Red (Maryland girl, born and bred)
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To: alloysteel

My birthday... :)


33 posted on 11/08/2011 7:19:52 AM PST by Hoosier Catholic Momma (How long till my Arkansas drawl fades into the twang of southeast Ohio?)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

I am Jewish and like Christmas trees and the Christmas season. Get rid of all this multiKulti PC nonsense


34 posted on 11/08/2011 7:22:00 AM PST by dennisw (What good is a used up world and how could it be worth having - - Sting)
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To: dennisw
I'm a Christian, and I always try to wrangle an invite to my best friend's, who is Jewish, for their big get-together around the holidays.

His father in law has contacts with a Deli up in NYC, and he arranges to get a trunkload of stuff delivered.

Geez, the food is good. "Best Pastrami in the city", his F-i-L says, and I'm inclined to agree. :-)

35 posted on 11/08/2011 7:28:31 AM PST by wbill
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To: TribalPrincess2U

IMHO,by 2016 the “radical” reforms Walker signed into law will be common practice around the country when the taxpayers figure out nationwide how hard the public sector has been screwing them.


36 posted on 11/08/2011 7:33:09 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (See ya later, debt inflator ! Gone in 4 (2012))
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To: G Larry

Had to laugh yesterday, saw a sign advertising Christmas trees here in MN already.

Everything on it was wrong.

(Frazir =Fraser ; Spruse= Spruce)

It was like reading a Craigslist ad.


37 posted on 11/08/2011 7:39:57 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (See ya later, debt inflator ! Gone in 4 (2012))
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38 posted on 11/08/2011 7:46:04 AM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: TribalPrincess2U

Hi TribalPrincess2U,

“I love this man. I wish I could help him against all the vermin out there.”

You can, Pray for Gov. Walker in Jesus name.

Pray for us all in His name, we sure could use the help.

I will pray for you likewise.

TL


39 posted on 11/08/2011 8:04:28 AM PST by Tomato lover (Jesus is the way, the truth and the light)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Somebody needs to tell Freedom From Religion that Christmas is a Federal holiday. So it is federal sanctioned religion.


40 posted on 11/08/2011 8:13:56 AM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: wbill

Share the wealth! Jews can learn good stuff from Christians and vis versa and yes Jews are the pastrami kings I just so happen to be a connoisseur.

Jews used to own so many of Americans retail operations...You better believe they loved Christmas w the increased sales and put up Christmas displays. Now you get some disgusting atheists (some Jewish born) who try to ruin Christmas. Those Grinches should FOAD!


41 posted on 11/08/2011 8:16:38 AM PST by dennisw (What good is a used up world and how could it be worth having - - Sting)
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To: alloysteel

“PC is not designed to make people “nicer”, it is a form of intimidation to force the majority to be ashamed of their opinions, and make that majority conform to the demands of the few.”

BINGO


42 posted on 11/08/2011 10:18:23 PM PST by max americana (CAIN 2012)
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