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Penn State Said to Be Planning Paterno Exit Amid Scandal
New York Times ^ | 8 November 2011 | Mark Viera & Pete Thamel

Posted on 11/08/2011 11:40:43 AM PST by bjorn14

STATE COLLEGE, Pa. — Joe Paterno’s tenure as coach of the Penn State football team will soon be over, perhaps within days or weeks, in the wake of a sex-abuse scandal that has implicated university officials, according to two people briefed on conversations among the university’s top officials.

The board of trustees has yet to determine the precise timing of Paterno’s exit, but it is clear that the man who has more victories than any other coach at college football’s top level and who made Penn State a prestigious national brand will not survive to coach another season. Discussions about how to manage his departure have begun, according to the two people.

Paterno was to have held a news conference Tuesday but the university canceled it less than an hour before it was scheduled to start.

At age 84 and with 46 seasons as the Penn State head coach behind him, Paterno’s extraordinary run of success — one that produced tens of millions of dollars for the school and two national championships, and that established him as one of the nation’s most revered leaders, will end with a stunning and humiliating final chapter.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: collegefootball; paterno; pedstate; psu; retirement; sandusky
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To: bjorn14

Whoops...Hope my granddaughter DOES NOT get a sports scholarship.


41 posted on 11/08/2011 12:21:26 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: bereanway

I thought I read yesterday that the AD and one other person were being tagged for lying to a Grand Jury, in an attempt to cover up the deal, and that’s a federal offense.


42 posted on 11/08/2011 12:22:24 PM PST by USNA74
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To: Ramcat

He should NOT receive any retirement benefits, period. His aquired wealth is something his victims could go after.


43 posted on 11/08/2011 12:22:28 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: lacrew
According to the indictment, the second time this guy was caught in the shower (having anal sex with a young boy), the witness reported it directly to Paterno.

I haven't been following this. What was a young boy doing in a college shower?

Or was it a 17-year-old Freshman?

44 posted on 11/08/2011 12:22:50 PM PST by PapaBear3625 (Civilization is unnatural. It is a whim of circumstance. Barbarism must always ultimately triumph.)
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To: bjorn14
Read the grand jury report:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2804362/posts

It's pretty clear that by 1998 everyone, including Paterno, knew that Sandusky was a pedophile, and it lead to Sandusky’s “retirement” in 1999.

45 posted on 11/08/2011 12:23:00 PM PST by mojito
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To: Sacajaweau

I was wondering about your initial comment ;0)


46 posted on 11/08/2011 12:24:50 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier currently deployed in the Valley of Death, Afghanistan)
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To: Drill Thrawl

Well, obviously. That is the easy and expected cop-out answer.

When sweep-it-under-the rug Paterno is sued, if not prosecuted, I expect those are the exact primary questions that will indeed be asked.


47 posted on 11/08/2011 12:25:06 PM PST by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: trumandogz
The NCAA needs to slap heavy sanctions on Penn State up to and including the Death Penalty.

Fence it off and call it State Pen.

48 posted on 11/08/2011 12:25:45 PM PST by MARTIAL MONK (I'm waiting for the POP!)
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To: PapaBear3625
The witness said that the boy appeared to be 10 years old.

Sandusky was a child rapist, and everyone connected with the PSU football program knew it and covered it up.

49 posted on 11/08/2011 12:25:59 PM PST by mojito
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To: Amerikan_Samurai

In the words of Johnny Cash

..you can roll on for along time, but soon or later God will cut you down...

Paterno stayed in coaching way too long, and by doing so he has exposed himself as someone who was not looking out for the best intrests of his university and people in general.


50 posted on 11/08/2011 12:26:54 PM PST by se_ohio_young_conservative
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To: EyeGuy
Why don’t you get you head out of your disgustingly biased asz and answer an honest question? I’m trying to understand the DETAILS of this case and was looking for facts. It is quite clear I need to look elsewhere.

Thanks for the attack.
I'm not sure of your intentions but I understood your questions to be accusatory without adding any proof. Much like Politico.
If you are here seeking information about the incident just google Paterno / Penn State and read what Joe had to say.
Is it disgustingly biased to defend an honorable and distinguished man who has positively impacted thousands of men and women?

51 posted on 11/08/2011 12:27:12 PM PST by Ramcat (Thank You American Veterans)
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To: PapaBear3625
As with may pedophiles, they seek out places and positions where they will have access to children - particularly troubled children.

The Penn State pedophile ran a program for troubled young men - he had access to Penn State athletic facilities - and he brought the young men to Penn State from his troubled youth program.

So that is what a young boy was doing in a college shower.

What an adult was doing in the shower with him, and why just his presence there was not grounds from removing him permanently from Penn State is something I cannot answer.

52 posted on 11/08/2011 12:28:14 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: USNA74

I believe that is correct. I believe Paterno ran to the admin within 24 hours of being told (I think he was told on Saturday and reported on Sunday), and then the entire thing was buried. Their is a great deal of coverup resulting in criminal actvity here and heads need to roll at PSU.


53 posted on 11/08/2011 12:28:24 PM PST by bereanway
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To: mojito
It's pretty clear that by 1998 everyone, including Paterno, knew that Sandusky was a pedophile, and it lead to Sandusky’s “retirement” in 1999.

What did Courtney know and when did he know it and what did he advise who to do?

54 posted on 11/08/2011 12:29:02 PM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: Owl_Eagle; brityank; Physicist; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA; GOPJ; abner; baseballmom; Mo1; Ciexyz; ...

ping


55 posted on 11/08/2011 12:30:21 PM PST by Tribune7 (If you demand perfection you will wind up with leftist Democrats)
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To: Ramcat
If you witnessed something of this nature at work (assuming you don't own the company), would you tell your boss or call the cops?

Well, first of all I'd put a beat down on Sandusky, and I'm not Mike McQueary. Then, I'd call the cops.

What on earth would lead someone to turn the other way and let that rape continue? That was a TEN YEAR OLD KID BEING ANALLY RAPED!!! It seems that it'd be hard wired into any normal person to intervene.

What does that say about the culture of Penn State? These coaches walk around like Gods and no one questions their actions.

This whole story is disgusting.

56 posted on 11/08/2011 12:30:56 PM PST by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: mojito

“It’s pretty clear that by 1998 everyone, including Paterno, knew that Sandusky was a pedophile, and it lead to Sandusky’s “retirement” in 1999.”

####

Ok, so then was Sandusky not seen ANYWHERE NEAR the Penn State program after 1999?

If so, then I’d say Paterno and crew are relatively in the clear, depending on how long BEFORE 1999 they knew about this?


57 posted on 11/08/2011 12:33:06 PM PST by EyeGuy (2012: When the Levee Breaks)
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To: Ramcat
If you witnessed something of this nature at work (assuming you don't own the company), would you tell your boss or call the cops?

I'd call the cops. Actually, I'd like to think I would have punched the fellow out and dragged the poor kid out of there.

OTOH, if someone simply told me about it without going into specifics, and I wasn't really sure I believed it, I'd probably would just pass it down the line, if that.

58 posted on 11/08/2011 12:34:43 PM PST by Tribune7 (If you demand perfection you will wind up with leftist Democrats)
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To: Amerikan_Samurai

I just read the Grand Jury indictment via a link in a previous thread. It sounds like the Penn State administrators were only worried about protecting the school’s reputation, with little concern about learning the truth.

But the testimony about the 2002 shower incident is particularly strange. If the timeline is correct, several people didn’t see any need to immediately report a serious crime to the police:

The 28-yr old graduate assistant reportedly saw Sandusky sodomizing a 10-yr old boy in the locker room shower; then the assistant left the area, went to his office, and telephoned his father. His father told him to leave the building and come home.

The next morning, the graduate assistant notified Paterno, and the day after that Paterno notified Athletic Director Curley. Then 1.5 weeks later, Curley met with the graduate assistant.

From the moment the 28-yr old assistant witnessed the sodomy being performed on the juvenile victim, none of these Penn State air-heads thought to immediately help the 10-yr old boy. Morally, ethically, and perhaps legally, they were wrong.

If the graduate assistant is telling the truth (the Grand Jury said he is credible), Paterno and Curley should be ashamed of themselves.


59 posted on 11/08/2011 12:34:43 PM PST by 04-Bravo
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To: EyeGuy
Well, obviously. That is the easy and expected cop-out answer.

Huh?

60 posted on 11/08/2011 12:35:54 PM PST by Drill Thrawl (The patient is too far gone to save.)
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