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Crew of MT Liquid Velvet Kill Pirate Captors? Rumors Fly Within Pirate Circles
somaliareport.com via gcaptain.com ^ | 11-8-11 | Mohamed Odowa

Posted on 11/08/2011 3:28:42 PM PST by dynachrome

Claims that at least six Somali pirates were killed and three others were captured by the crew of the Greek owned MT Liquid Velvet chemical tanker which was hijacked last week, are up for debate due to infighting among pirates, according to several pirates who spoke to Somalia Report.

“Six of our colleagues were killed by the hostages who escaped while the ship was coming to the coastal city of Harardhere in Mudug region. We will retaliate against our enemy,” said Abdi, a pirate.

Abdi explained that the fighting broke out when the pirates were trying to search the pockets of the crew.

Dahir Aden Shuriye, who claimed to be a relative of one of the dead pirates, confirmed the incident and told Somalia Report that the ship signaled NATO a few minutes after the clash ended.

Mohamed Ahmed, a pirate source, disputes the claims and said no fight broke out and that the pirates were chewing khat, a stimulant herb, when they spoke toSomalia Report, suggesting that the pirates were impaired.

Mohamed Ahmed also said that a number of pirates in the Harardere and Garacad area made up the rumor after Aw-kombe’s group, the pirate group holding the vessel, refused their request to join in the ransom.

(Excerpt) Read more at gcaptain.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: hijacking; pirates; somalia
Pirates have spokesmen now?

"no fight broke out and that the pirates were chewing khat, a stimulant herb, when they spoke toSomalia Report, suggesting that the pirates were impaired."


1 posted on 11/08/2011 3:28:44 PM PST by dynachrome
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To: dynachrome

All ships need to carry weapons so they can protect themselves. Not allowing them to do so is for what reason? The pirates need to be blown out of the water immediately and don’t wait and ask for permission.


2 posted on 11/08/2011 3:32:38 PM PST by RC2
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To: RC2

Quad 50’s, 2 20mm Catlings, and a couple of 75mm deck canons.


3 posted on 11/08/2011 3:44:22 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: SandRat

Machetes. Cut them up and send them back to the mother ship.


4 posted on 11/08/2011 3:51:20 PM PST by EQAndyBuzz (To fix government, we need a rocket scientist. Oh, wait we have one!)
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To: RC2

There is no reason they can’t in international waters. But the easiest way to deter boarding is to simply raise the ladder.


5 posted on 11/08/2011 4:07:47 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: dynachrome

“Six of our colleagues were killed by the hostages”

Colleagues. I love it.


6 posted on 11/08/2011 4:13:39 PM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: dynachrome

There was a great opening scene in “The Expendables” where Stallone’s group took out pirates.


7 posted on 11/08/2011 4:28:12 PM PST by SkyDancer ("A Pessimist Is Just A Well Informed Optimist")
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To: SandRat

I think it would be an ideal bachelor party expedition. For a flat rate you get to ride along on an armed cargo ship, with all the beer and ammo you need...


8 posted on 11/08/2011 4:28:37 PM PST by LizardQueen (The world is not out to get you, except in the sense that the world is out to get everyone.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Yes they can carry weapons at sea but many of the ports will not allow them.


9 posted on 11/08/2011 4:30:38 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: ModelBreaker

“Six of our colleagues were killed by the hostages who escaped

Actually was about to post the exact same thing. The corporate culture has quite a reach.

Look on the bright side “colleagues” the Bonus checks for the quarter will be up.


10 posted on 11/08/2011 4:32:39 PM PST by Recon Dad ("The most important rule in a gunfight is: Always win and cheat if necessary.")
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To: LizardQueen
I think it would be an ideal bachelor party expedition. For a flat rate you get to ride along on an armed cargo ship, with all the beer and ammo you need...

Better ration the beer and bullets, if you make them unlimited it might cut into payload enough to make the voyage unprofitable, even with the reduced insurance rates.

11 posted on 11/08/2011 4:35:10 PM PST by magslinger (To properly protect your family you need a Bible, a twelve gauge and a pig.)
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To: dynachrome

The Russians know how to handle pirates:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOjdBp167q0&feature=related


12 posted on 11/08/2011 4:38:01 PM PST by Clay Moore (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of a fool to the left. Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

That would be, “Cut bait or fish.”


13 posted on 11/08/2011 4:39:22 PM PST by healy61
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To: dynachrome

I’m fully expecting the pirates unionize any day now.


14 posted on 11/08/2011 4:46:56 PM PST by Nachoman (I HOPE we CHANGE presidents.)
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To: Nachoman

They’ll join the SEIU!


15 posted on 11/08/2011 4:47:49 PM PST by dynachrome ("Our forefathers didn't bury their guns. They buried those that tried to take them.")
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To: LizardQueen

Bachelor Party? Why not make it a Bill Ingvall, Jeff Foxworthy, and Larry the Cable Guy Hunting Party?


16 posted on 11/08/2011 4:55:48 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: driftdiver

Private security with their own arms is another answer.


17 posted on 11/08/2011 5:19:11 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: magslinger

Try this: http://www.somalicruises.com/


18 posted on 11/08/2011 5:21:18 PM PST by vette6387 (Enough Already!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Not unless the private security is removed prior to entering port.


19 posted on 11/08/2011 5:29:47 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

Kill all pirates. Chum them to the sharks.


20 posted on 11/08/2011 5:39:14 PM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: dynachrome
Related:

Crew recapture Taiwan ship from Somali pirates

The Somali pirates fell into the sea, Tsay said, quoting the fishing boat owner, adding that details of the saga and the fate of the six pirates were not immediately clear.

21 posted on 11/08/2011 5:41:56 PM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: dynachrome
Pirates have spokesmen now?

I'm not going to look it up because the article probably a year old, but the pirates have their own stock market where you can buy shares of a venture by contributing supplies.

22 posted on 11/08/2011 5:44:38 PM PST by Pan_Yan
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To: driftdiver

That is what I had in mind. Put them onboard when they get in pirate range and then take them off when they are clear. But like I also said, RAISE THE DARNED BOARDING LADDER and they can’t get up to the ship!


23 posted on 11/08/2011 5:56:15 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Many of these ships are very low to the water. Add in that most ships are very lightly manned and the pirates have plenty of time to get on board without anyone noticing.


24 posted on 11/08/2011 6:06:15 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

Then all the more reason to hire armed guards.


26 posted on 11/09/2011 7:23:06 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Oh I agree, the pirates should be blown out of the water. The people making the decision to arm vs not arm are not on the ships. They are safely back in some office.


27 posted on 11/09/2011 7:29:37 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: dynachrome

We should “Drone” the living hell out of any ship, even a canoe anywhere within 3 miles of the Somali coast, problem solved. My son is awesome at Xbox 360 and would be willing to pilot the drones for free. He’s gotten some great training on Battlefield 3 in the past few weeks.


28 posted on 11/09/2011 7:29:56 AM PST by Scythian
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