Skip to comments.I SUPPORT HERMAN CAIN
Posted on 11/09/2011 5:31:58 AM PST by shortstop
Its a he said, she said.
And I side with him.
I liked Herman Cain before this current difficulty, and I like him now.
I dont believe he did it. And even if he did do it, Im not bothered enough to dump him.
The worst-case scenario is that 15 years ago he propositioned some women. If so, thats between him and his wife.
But I dont believe this is about passion.
This is about politics.
And this isnt just a high-tech lynching, it is a coup by innuendo. Because Herman Cain isnt really the victim here.
As the reporters race around hyperventilating, trying to bring this man down pushed on by whatever campaign orchestrated this the intent is to cheat democracy.
This isnt about workplace harassment.
This is about stealing an election.
Either Barack Obama or Rick Perry or Mitt Romney, threatened by Herman Cains success in the polls, decided to play the nuclear card. And these accusations real or trumped up were leaked for the purpose of removing Herman Cain as a candidate.
Sure, that hurts him.But nowhere near as much as it hurts those of us who would have voted for him.
See, the real point is that this information and this controversy were manufactured to make sure Herman Cain didnt become the president of the United States. The whole thing was cooked up to take an option away from voters.
That makes voters the victims.
As well as our Republic and its electoral system. When the system is cheated or manipulated, we have been oppressed, just as surely as if some palace intrigue had poisoned the prince. When you take a candidate away from the voters, you are taking freedom away from the voters. You are subverting the Constitution and fundamentally damaging our way of life and governance. If there is no choice, your vote is meaningless.
Its a big deal.
Now, lets get to the accusations.
First, an accusation without an accuser or a specific claim, is bull crud. Nameless women claiming unspecified things are not credible. Period.
Now, as to the bleach blonde who came out with Gloria Allred. She doesnt seem credible. I cant say if shes telling the truth or not, I wasnt there. But her background and her story raise real questions.
She seems to be a schemer, always working an angle. Her life seems to hop from controversy to controversy.
That doesnt mean shes lying, but it doesnt help her credibility.
Neither does the way she told her story.
She claims that after dinner and drinks, Herman Cain drove her someplace and then put his hand on her thigh and attempted to slide it up her dress, and that he tried to push her head toward his lap.
Maybe those things happened. Like I said, I wasnt there. He says no, she says yes.But it strikes me as odd that those things would happen in a vacuum.
Typically, I think the hand up the dress comes after a fair amount of kissing and boob squeezing. There is an order of escalation to these things, as I understand, and I think human experience shows theres a fair amount of logic in that first base-second base-third base-home plate progression we heard about when we were young.
Further, I think the push-the-head-toward-the-lap thing makes more sense when one or both people are in some stage of at least partial undress.
Dont make me get graphic.
But the notion that this guy tries to get somewhere with this girl and his play is to immediately go gyno or try to physically suggest some intimate act, Im not sure that is the most likely course of events. Perhaps. But more commonly, I believe there is an escalating pattern of seduction and arousal. Physical contact between two people tends to build, and liberties are built upon other liberties.Maybe a guy would just get grabby like that, but experience would seem to teach him that hes not going to get anywhere that way.
I dont want to be crude or inappropriate, but in the context of two folks together alone in a car, and one of those folks is hoping to get something sexual from the other, there probably are some typical patterns of events.
The events described by Herman Cains accuser do not fit those patterns. Quite possibly, shes leaving out part of the story that they were making out and were engaged in some level of physical intimacy or shes lying. The first would indicate that she was a willing participant, to a point, and only objected when that point was about to be passed which is a normal human interaction, not an act of sexual harassment.
Or shes lying.
Which is, to my way of thinking, more likely.
Personally, I believe Herman Cain.
His sense of moral indignation seems real. The passion of his denunciation of these claims strikes me as genuine.
I believe him.
I know that is subjective, and others might feel otherwise, but I believe him.
And I support him.
And I hope I get the chance to vote for him.
And I hope that we are smart enough not to let this media circus derail us or destroy him. I hope we can recognize an ambush when we see it. I hope we can be smart enough not to be manipulated by politicians who are afraid of this mans ideas.
If they want to fight Herman Cain, let them do so. But let them do it fair and square.
And dont let them hide behind women.
And their unlikely claims.
I am also supporting Mr. Cain all the way.
“Herman Cain isnt really the victim here. We are.”
Right on. The struggle we’re engaged in today is between the government of the United States and the people of the United States.
When a candidate rises up and represents the peoples’ wishes, he draws heavy fire from both Democrats and Republicans. He’s a threat to their good-ol’-boy club that is suffocating us.
born December 13, 1945 in Memphis, TN (Meets the Jus Soli Requirement)
Luther Cain Jr., born March 16, 1925 in TN, died March 29, 1982 in Atlanta, GA
Lenora Davis, born July 27, 1925 in GA, died August 20, 2005 in Atlanta, GA
Both parents were US Citizens at the time of his birth (Meets the Jus Sanguinis Requirement)
Herman Cain is a NATURAL BORN CITIZEN
Barry Soetoro aka Barack Hussein Obama ISN'T!
Click on the cane, (Go Cain.)
I’m on board as well. This is a good man.
so we either go with Cain who is almost certainly innocent of these frivolous charges, or we have only Newt left ... who is on his third wife after cheating on the other two and even delivered divorce papers to the first while she was in the hospital for cancer. It doesn't really make a lot of sense to me to dump one man for unproved allegations, and choose as an alternative a man with a well documented and proven record of infidelity. I would love Newt to be part of the Cain administration, and I think Cain/Newt would be a winning ticket, but I think Cain has to be at the top of that ticket.
There are plenty of reasons in Cain’s platform and record to not support him, but the media (LMSM) will not examine and criticize his policies, so they have chosen to focus on a sex scandal instead.
They’re just solidifying my support for him.
The elites want to take away choice away from the voters. If Cain is a flawed candidate, let the voters make that judgment - not the media and certainly not the GOP Establishment. Voters can make up their minds for themselves if they like Cain and his political program.
Well said. I too stand with Herman. I am not going to let the media railroad my candidate just so we can get another McShame
A lot of people do. A lot of people also don't believe the two-dollar trollop.
So...in your mind there are only the two choices?
Could not agree more. This is classic Obama machine destruction. See: http://www.teapartytribune.com/2011/11/09/kaushaar-cain-accuser-wants-another-payout/
Very well said. I agree.
This is a fight for our freedom to pick our own candidate basically. I just hope people wake up in time .
It ticks me off too that the news won’t cover the PRO Cain character witnesses, there are 100s of people coming forward who know Cain and testify he is not like this, including some folks on FR. Here are just a few:
National Restaurant Association chairman during Cains tenure: Its a hatchet jobhttp://dailycaller.com/2011/11/03/national-restaurant-association-chairman-during-cain%e2%80%99s-tenure-its-a-hatchet-job/#ixzz1cgsqrOLy
Cains Former Secretary: This Is Not the Herman Cain I Know
Karol Markowicz (2004 Campaign Staffer)
Why this guys no sexual harasser
This will have to go down as and most heinous and malicious act in a LONG history of heinous and malicious acts in American journalism... because the whole circus of accusations and innuendo would still be on the drawing board if the MSM was not eagerly and actively complicit in publicizing these accusations, with or without proper verification.
At this point I personally do not give a F$#@ IF Cain did anything or not ... I don't care WHAT Cain did to who or when.... PERIOD!!! I am done with this BS!!
THEIR allegations are SO disgraceful and Cain's defense of his own character is SO sterling that I am EVEN MORE assured in my support of Cain NOW than ever before AND I look forward to voting for him as President!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Can anyone find a similar picture of Obama and Michele or Bill and Hill showing such natural, easy, and good natured affection? I doubt it.
Me too. I don’t believe these Anita Hill Clones ONE BIT.
I intend to FIGHT them with ANOTHER Contribution to Hermann Cain.
Considering his comments on Muslims initially, and other posts here on Grover Norquist, I think this whole conspiracy against him bears a closer look at those generating it and their motivations to get a pro-Muslim nominated on the GOP ticket.
Karen Kraushaar raises some questions too:
Cain accuser filed complaint in next job