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Charles Krauthammer Sternly Advises Herman Cain To Stop Accusing People Of Setting Him Up
MEDIAITE ^ | 11/09/2011 | Frances Martel

Posted on 11/09/2011 7:59:38 AM PST by SeekAndFind

With the possibility of making it to a primary increasingly slim for Herman Cain as he faces a number of sexual harassment accusations, Charles Krauthammer visited Bill O’Reilly tonight to give a review of his press conference.

Krauthammer was impressed with Cain’s “high wire act” but warned him that he had made one mistake that had surfaced before– accusing the Democrats of having something to do with the story surfacing, after his chief of staff previously accused the Perry campaign of the same. Krauthammer noted that he did believe Cain could survive, “but it won’t be easy.” In today’s “high wire act,” Krauthammer argued Cain “crossed a wire just about intact,” but for him to “blindly blame it on the Democratic machine” did him no good: “you can’t go around making charges if you don’t know they’re true or not.”

O’Reilly agreed, noting there was a lot against Cain, including CNN (which he called “the Cain Network now over there”) and the establishment Republicans, who “weren’t on his side to begin with.” Despite that, Krauthammer argued, “the establishment Republicans aren’t behind this,” and warned Cain should “stop throwing out accusations.” He also advised voters to keep the presumption of innocence, though O’Reilly didn’t believe this was possible: “we live in a country where judgments are based on nothing and people are destroyed,” he concluded.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: charleskrauthammer; hermancain; sexualharassment
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1 posted on 11/09/2011 7:59:42 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

shut up charles, you are not in charge


2 posted on 11/09/2011 8:01:33 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Color me quite cynical for a moment — it could have well been both — but how did it eventually get clarified that just one of the parties was to blame for the leak from a hustler of dubious credentials? Cain may simply have been going after the biggest target he saw at the moment.


3 posted on 11/09/2011 8:03:27 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (ya don't tug on Superman's cape/ya don't spit into the wind--and ya don't speak well of Mitt to Jim!)
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To: driftdiver
Charles probably told us to lay off the INS "spokes lady" back during the Elian kidnapping days.

Can we find out if he did? Then he is RUINT!

4 posted on 11/09/2011 8:04:22 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: SeekAndFind

I tend to agree with the admonition to cease laying blame. His campaign directed initially poisoned those waters by blaming Perry’s campaign without substantiation. Now, to blame the Dems (though I personally think they’re behind it), rings a bit hollow. Better that he stays on the message defending his innocence in the matter.

One thing that might’ve been a good tactic very early on, would be to regret coming off as clumsy in his initial response, because getting hit with baseless, public accusations isn’t something to which he’s accustomed.


5 posted on 11/09/2011 8:04:31 AM PST by ScottinVA (Hurrah me boys, for FREEDOM! `Tis the risin` o` the moon!)
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To: driftdiver

Go hammer some sauerkraut chuckie!


6 posted on 11/09/2011 8:04:50 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (ya don't tug on Superman's cape/ya don't spit into the wind--and ya don't speak well of Mitt to Jim!)
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To: SeekAndFind

It seems that Cain has identified the Republican pundits that everyone hates and gotten them to say nasty things about Cain. Smart move.


7 posted on 11/09/2011 8:05:27 AM PST by truthfreedom
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To: ScottinVA

directed = director


8 posted on 11/09/2011 8:05:46 AM PST by ScottinVA (Hurrah me boys, for FREEDOM! `Tis the risin` o` the moon!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Charles.....can’t you see that when Glory-a Allred enters from stage left that something’s cooking?


9 posted on 11/09/2011 8:06:31 AM PST by ErnBatavia (Obama Voters: Jose Baez wants YOU for his next jury pool.......)
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To: ScottinVA

I agree that the allegation against Perry was at best irresponsible. Nevertheless, I think it is very likely he is being “set up”. The left learned its lesson with Clarence Thomas - they need more than one psycho liar to make a smear effective.

Cain isn’t my first choice, but I hate to see what is being done to him.


10 posted on 11/09/2011 8:08:56 AM PST by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: SeekAndFind

It is a setup and who does anyone with average intelligence think did it? Communists Democratic Party.


11 posted on 11/09/2011 8:08:56 AM PST by Logical me
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To: SeekAndFind
With the possibility of making it to a primary increasingly slim for Herman Cain

It used to be that the media was the only one on the block for news and commentary.

Now the average Joe can search out the facts on the internet, and they don't like it.

They don't like the fact that their dirty deeds are becoming exposed.

A comment like that just doesn't fly anymore.

12 posted on 11/09/2011 8:09:55 AM PST by stars & stripes forever ( Blessed is the nation whose God is the Lord.)
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To: ScottinVA

It does tend to set up a moral equivalency argument (even if bogus) in the minds of the audience. Cain’s nose may well be accurate about this and both Perry, Romney, AND the Rats may all be ballyhooing this smear campaign, but proving it is harder, and Cain is concurrently arguing that nobody has proved any of the smear on him. He could still back away from that trap, and in the long run he will have to if he doesn’t want to look like he has stooped as low as his accusers.

In a more honorable age, presidential candidates wouldn’t have to worry about this. But that’s then and this is now.


13 posted on 11/09/2011 8:10:29 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (ya don't tug on Superman's cape/ya don't spit into the wind--and ya don't speak well of Mitt to Jim!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Sour Krauthammer is so pissed off at Cain. I have lost a lot of respect for Krauthammer. The guy is nothing inside the beltway elitist.
14 posted on 11/09/2011 8:10:29 AM PST by Sprite518
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To: SeekAndFind
Oh so it ok for CK to endlessly repeat baseless accusation with no substantiation AT Cain but it's then end of the world if Cain shoots back?
15 posted on 11/09/2011 8:10:35 AM PST by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

One of the Perry freepers - when this first broke - said there was “more to come.” I asked her how she knew and she never answered me. I asked once again and never got an answer. She hasn’t been posting recently.

So I can very well understand why Cain first thought it was Perry. I still believe that. But then I think the RINOs and DIMs are sharing opposition research with each other—


16 posted on 11/09/2011 8:10:41 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Let's have a Cain Mutiny!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Krauthammer:“you can’t go around making charges if you don’t know they’re true or not.”

O'Reilly: “stop throwing out accusations.”
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Yah, Herman, in order to defend yourself against against unproven and unsubstantiated allegations, you're not allowed to express opinions you can't prove.

17 posted on 11/09/2011 8:11:02 AM PST by Riodacat (And when all is said and done, there'll be a hell of a lot more said than done......)
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To: SeekAndFind

Charles Krauthammer is the living embodiment of the hazard of being the smartest person in the room: assuming that makes you right.


18 posted on 11/09/2011 8:11:14 AM PST by papertyger (What has islam ever accomplished that treacherous, opportunistic, brutality couldn't do on its own?)
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To: SeekAndFind
Despite that, Krauthammer argued, “the establishment Republicans aren’t behind this,” and warned Cain should “stop throwing out accusations.”

Methinks he doth protest too much.

19 posted on 11/09/2011 8:11:47 AM PST by OB1kNOb (The prudent see danger and take refuge, but the simple keep going and pay the penalty. - Prov 22:3)
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To: SeekAndFind; All

He also said, last night, on Bret Baier’s Election Coverage Special, that if Cain drops out, his support will initially go to Gingrich but will ultimately end up “with Romney”. Charles is an establishment, country club, Rockefeller Republican.


20 posted on 11/09/2011 8:12:25 AM PST by no dems (Why do you never see "Obama" bumper stickers on cars going to work in the morning?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Uh Mark Block could accuse Politico for having ties to Adolf Hitler for all I care. They deserve it. They are scumbags.

And as for the “Democrat Machine”? So what. Even if they weren’t behind this— they have smeared enough conservatives let’s just call it even.


21 posted on 11/09/2011 8:12:39 AM PST by exist
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To: SeekAndFind
Herman Cain is the Litmus Test by which we will be able to identify who are the friends of the Constitution and who are its enemies.
22 posted on 11/09/2011 8:12:55 AM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR!)
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To: driftdiver
Note, Charles was against sending Elian back to Cuba.

Now, an invisible connection. Edward Bennett Williams used to employee Greg Craig, the lawyer for the Cuban diplomat in the UnitedStates.

So, I asked the other day if this Bennett guy who succors poor widdle miss victim #2 is a relative of Williams ~ hunh? Anyone know, nephew, grand nephew maybe? Is this guy a buddy of Greg Craig and his Cuban Commie buddies?

That'd drag this particular scandal right into the lap of the Cuban Commie attack on Senator Rubio!!!!!

23 posted on 11/09/2011 8:12:54 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: Sprite518

Sour Kraut always looks like he’s sucking a lemon. What an insufferable bore!


24 posted on 11/09/2011 8:13:05 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Let's have a Cain Mutiny!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Actually, I agree with Charles on this one. I think Herman needs to just stick to his firm denials and make statements like the Home Run Press Conf yesterday.

Let underlings make other statements and release information. But, VET the information first so Block doesn’t continue making erroneous accusations — find out for sure what is what, dot the I’s and cross the T’s and THEN let loose with both barrels.


25 posted on 11/09/2011 8:13:17 AM PST by commish (Freedom tastes sweetest to those who have fought to preserve it.)
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To: driftdiver

Charles is right. I do believe he is being falsely accused, but now Cain may very well be falsely accusing others as the source of the attacks. He started by blaming Perry, then maybe Romney, now Democrats. Get the proof, THEN lay the blame!


26 posted on 11/09/2011 8:14:21 AM PST by Tatze (I reject your reality and substitute my own!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Didn’t Rush Limbaugh say last week that it didn’t matter who started the story about Cain? Its politics and something to be expected. If you can’t respond properly to this what will happen to Cain when the Obama machine attacks him?


27 posted on 11/09/2011 8:14:51 AM PST by tlozo
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To: Riodacat

The upside of this is that Herman Cain may mount a successful reductio ad absurdam defense. He might be the one springing the trap. If he keeps his wits about him and doesn’t let his anger overwhelm his reason.


28 posted on 11/09/2011 8:16:15 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (ya don't tug on Superman's cape/ya don't spit into the wind--and ya don't speak well of Mitt to Jim!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Kraphammer has lost ALL credibility as a Conservative Spokesperson. Like many on FOX, he’s shilling for Romney.

If you want to tell Kraphammer, how full of crap he is, his e-mail at the Washington ComPost is:

letters@charleskrauthammer.com


29 posted on 11/09/2011 8:17:40 AM PST by ZULU (Anybody but Romney)
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30 posted on 11/09/2011 8:17:46 AM PST by NoGrayZone (Stay involved..because stupid people are running America! - Herman Cain - Amen!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Sorry, folks!!! POTUS Barack Hussein Obama is behind the Cain attack 100%!!! The truth will opt as these accusers of Herman Cain have the light of sunshine truth illuminating their many shortcomings and failings. These women are the agents of Obama, and...are quite incompetent and sleazy to boot!!! Watch out for Sharon Bialek. Methinks, this Bialek woman is truly female sleaze and low life at its finest hour!!! Her only quest in life, IMHO, is cash, cash, someone else’s cash!!! Rush, Sean, Bill, Mark.....best you guys due some serious digging on Ms. Bialek and her questionable past and actions!!! Rove & Krauthammer are dead wrong!!!


31 posted on 11/09/2011 8:18:35 AM PST by JLAGRAYFOX
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To: tlozo

There’s less to work with when he’s fighting the GOP.

Fighting the Democrats will be like high schoolers dissecting a formaldehyded frog pinned to black wax. With such a rich lode of scandal, one will hardly know where to begin.


32 posted on 11/09/2011 8:19:21 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (ya don't tug on Superman's cape/ya don't spit into the wind--and ya don't speak well of Mitt to Jim!)
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To: no dems
Krauthammer was NEVER a country club Republican. That applies ONLY to the young men and women the money guys send out to work for party organizational purposes.

In some places I believe you'll find Young Republicans doing a bit of that.

Charles cannot possibly do that kind of work from a wheelchair ~ and besides he's a Democrat.

33 posted on 11/09/2011 8:19:26 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: SeekAndFind
In a more "civil and respectful" time, those who insinuated questionable character issues outside the court of law had to back them up.

Andrew Jackson was one of the best in shutting up hearsay.


34 posted on 11/09/2011 8:19:26 AM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians)
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To: SeekAndFind
A decade late for his requirement, Charles keeps pushing the Rove/Rino bs.


35 posted on 11/09/2011 8:21:35 AM PST by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: SeekAndFind
“we live in a country where judgments are based on nothing and people are destroyed,” he concluded.

If you are a Republican, Charles is right. Will it happen with Cain? I don't know yet.

Clinton, Obama are examples that if you are the right party, you can get away with almost anything and pay no price.

36 posted on 11/09/2011 8:21:55 AM PST by listenhillary (Look your representatives in the eye and ask if they intend to pay off the debt. They will look away)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

Except for the fact I think Rove does a bit of stepping on the wild side I’d think he’d been tapping the Blond Lady (or wishing he could).


37 posted on 11/09/2011 8:22:59 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: SeekAndFind

Stuff it, beltway elitist


38 posted on 11/09/2011 8:23:18 AM PST by AmericanInTokyo (When the British hung a Colonialist Patriot one by one, it was an attack on ALL AMERICANS.)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
The second somebody found that picture of Bennett and Podesta together, and it doesn't matter the reason, that clearly identified this attack as DEMOCRAT, and probably Clintonista inspired.

Now we have the Clintonista INS spokes lady involved (and identified), and she's a serial complainer, we also have David Axelrod implicated as being involved.

This is Democrat top to bottom and barely conceals a second conspiracy by these guys to EASE Obama out of the Presidency, and wire Hillary in!

39 posted on 11/09/2011 8:27:38 AM PST by muawiyah
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To: SeekAndFind

Perry Operative Chris Wilson Accuses Cain Of Sexual Harassment…To Politico, Of Course
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2804047/posts


40 posted on 11/09/2011 8:29:40 AM PST by truthfreedom
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To: SeekAndFind

I love Cain, but Krauthammer has a point.

Cain needs to avoid traps.
Even if Cain is right, the evidence of any connection to the DNC has certainly been swept clean. Take, for example, the birth certificate issue.

However, in opposition to Krauthammer, I don’t view the accusation that Cain has made as a serious blunder, provided that Cain doesn’t mention it further (unless he has solid proof).


41 posted on 11/09/2011 8:31:10 AM PST by kidd
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To: Tatze
He started by blaming Perry, then maybe Romney, now Democrats. Get the proof, THEN lay the blame!

Agree.

When someone seems to be grabbing names out of the air to hurl unsubstantiated blame at for their situation, that says more about their situation than about the one(s) being blamed.


42 posted on 11/09/2011 8:31:37 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: All

I think Cain needs to stop accusing without proof, too. It is interesting the one person he gives a pass is Romney.


43 posted on 11/09/2011 8:32:09 AM PST by Irenic
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To: SeekAndFind
Krauthammer will find out when he gets
a note from L. Lin Wood.

44 posted on 11/09/2011 8:32:10 AM PST by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your law is my delight.)
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To: SeekAndFind

So is Krauthammer saying that nobody is behind this campaign? My bet is on stuffy, imperious RINO’s.


45 posted on 11/09/2011 8:33:37 AM PST by mas cerveza por favor
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To: SeekAndFind

I do find it bizarre the the media comes out and runs with unconfirmed reports and accusations all the time.

The double standard at work again. When they screw up, they rarely retract where it is firm and noticable. They bury it on page 20 or make a brief statement. A lot of the times the “news” they spew is an outright lie or disinformation.

Do they care or apologize for anything? Nope, they just forget about it. They claim the high road for themselves.

Then they move on down the road.

The average person knows the media is always working against them, so, they try to find out for themselves. Sometimes it works out great, other times they may make a mistake.

And when they do...wow...they are considered reckless and incompetent and not too bright.

Another what a joke moment.


46 posted on 11/09/2011 8:35:30 AM PST by dforest
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To: SeekAndFind

Hey, Cain was given the perfect opportunity to go after (and perhaps blame) Romney yesterday and he didn’t... things that make you go hmmmmmm


47 posted on 11/09/2011 8:38:27 AM PST by rhombus
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To: SeekAndFind

Chuck...I don’t believe Herman needs to be taking any advice from a Democrat.


48 posted on 11/09/2011 8:41:06 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: SeekAndFind

So now the Kraut is trying to set him up too?


49 posted on 11/09/2011 8:41:58 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: SeekAndFind

Krauthammer has been irritable ever since his boss Walter Mondale failed to defeat Ronald Reagan in 1984.


50 posted on 11/09/2011 8:48:23 AM PST by Pelham (Every nation that rose to power did so by protecting its manufacturing base)
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