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Rick Perry on debate gaffe: 'I stepped in it'
Polutico ^ | Wednesday November 9, 2011 | Alexander Burns

Posted on 11/09/2011 8:30:08 PM PST by Bigtigermike

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To: MHGinTN

I’ve been thinking the same thing. If it turns out later that he’s got early-stage Alzheimers that would be horrifying.


51 posted on 11/09/2011 9:58:49 PM PST by Junior_G (Funny how liberals' love affair with Muslims began on 9/11)
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To: Allegra

It’s hard to explain Perry to non-Texans.

I think there is another financial sinkhole about to go, soon.
Moreso than I thought even yesterday, if there’s a blowout, I’d rather Perry be here recruiting the survivors.


52 posted on 11/09/2011 10:00:36 PM PST by txhurl
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To: gunsequalfreedom
This is so stupid. How many people have had a thought slip their mind.

If this were the only time we'd seen Rick Perry's synaptic brain connections fail, it might be forgivable, but it's not. He's slipped in every single debate he's been in. Badly so.

Sorry, but the next president has got to have a razor sharp mind, and the ability to communicate like a real statesman. The stakes are too high to risk the future of the country on a man who is seemingly more lost than Barack Obama.

53 posted on 11/09/2011 10:01:51 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Isabel2010
We have a good speaker in the White House now~

Who, Obama? You've gotta be kidding. He speaks well when he's reading a prepared speech from a teleprompter, but as soon as he has to talk and think on his feet at the same time, he comes off like a dunce.

And Rick Perry isn't just gaffe-prone, like say, Joe Biden. He actually has trouble putting words together in a coherent fashion. It's almost as though he's got a real neurological condition going on.

54 posted on 11/09/2011 10:06:52 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Junior_G

Hey, watch out with the alzheimers remarks, lots of us freepers are old fogys or in my case an old goat, I made this post to you but don’t remember why.. anyway its honest..I think


55 posted on 11/09/2011 10:10:17 PM PST by goat granny
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To: txhurl
The Perry un-supporters will have to wait and see what happens.

We just did. It's over.

56 posted on 11/09/2011 10:10:39 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Nat Turner
3”E”’s Perry...Education, Energy and the EPA...it was a simple no brainer...oh well you can still go back to being governor...

You just made yourself look no better than Perry. Commerce, one of Perry's three, doesn't begin with an "E."

When EPA was suggested, he said he'd rebuild the EPA.

CNBC's after show said Perry rattles the three off at appearances daily according to reporters so this was a simply a high profile momentary lapse.

57 posted on 11/09/2011 10:15:39 PM PST by newzjunkey (Republicans will find a way to reelect Obama.)
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To: Bigtigermike
Rick Perry is the first candidate to come with Microsoft WindozeTM ME pre-installed.

He obviously had a General Protection Fault right on stage tonight.

Abort, Retry, Fail?

Cheers!

58 posted on 11/09/2011 10:15:44 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Windflier

Well, if Perry’s planning to attend the next debate, apparently it ain’t.


59 posted on 11/09/2011 10:16:25 PM PST by txhurl
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To: Windflier

So, if Newt wins the nomination you will guarantee that he won’t stumble in a debate? (I have seen him really blow it in debate, btw)


60 posted on 11/09/2011 10:17:53 PM PST by Quicksilver (Defeat Obama - zero-sum games will get us Zero, again.)
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To: txhurl; Allegra

“so I’d be surprised if there were Perry supporters on Palin threads bashing her. But I could be wrong.”

On Aug 14 The site owner threaten to zot Perry supporters if they didn’t clean up their act. Most of the Palin supporters “bad behavior” was directed at these Perry supporters causing trouble on Palin threads....something the Perrywinkles have conviently forgot.

A very few former Palin supporters have returned the favor on Perry threads. Yes, there are a few, but less than a small handfull have chosaen to return the favor. Compare those to the regular anti Palin/pro Perry posters that swarmed Palin threads.

At this juncture it appears that Palin is out of this cycle and Perry is busy destroying his own candidacy.......

What is more important, is that we, as Conservatives, do not allow the Dems/Obama/MSM to succeed in their very obvious smear of Herman Cain.......

We need to hang together on this point....or, as the man said “......we will all hang together.”


61 posted on 11/09/2011 10:19:53 PM PST by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry bear formerly known as..........Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: independent in tx
We’ll see if it’s really over. I doubt it.

Yeah, you just watch. Perry's gonna recover that 22% points he lost in the polls, and talk circles around that bunch of posers! He's gonna kick all their butts.....if they, uh...just shut up and give him a few more months to practice...

Aw, nuts...come on home, Rick.

62 posted on 11/09/2011 10:20:39 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: goat granny

I’m older than I was before, but not as old as I can get. Thankfully I’m at the point where I forget enough of what I’m forgetting that it doesn’t upset me much.


63 posted on 11/09/2011 10:25:59 PM PST by Junior_G (Funny how liberals' love affair with Muslims began on 9/11)
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To: Windflier

Again, didn’t see the debate but on another thread it claims there was a !43 second stumble with Rick trying to name the three agencies he wants gone? 43 seconds?


64 posted on 11/09/2011 10:32:20 PM PST by txhurl
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To: txhurl
It’s hard to compress what you do everyday into sound bites or debate zingers. People who excel at saying things are rarely DOers, and vice-versa. That’s why we have spokesmen.

Sorry, but one of the primary, requisite skills for a POTUS, is the ability to speak in a way that is intelligent, convincing, and charismatic. World class leaders do this effortlessly. It's why people follow them, and entrust them with the awesome responsibilities of running a nation.

Even those who seek lesser offices must be able to articulate their views with ease and confidence.

The fact that Rick Perry has demonstrated over and over again that he doesn't have the ability to do this (for whatever reason) is a deal breaker for most voters. His performances in these debates (not to mention some of the positions he's taken) have turned off a huge number of those who formerly supported him (as evidenced by his terrible slide in the polls).

Frankly, the man just isn't inspiring confidence in the voters. On the contrary, he's creating a negative impression, which will be almost impossible for him to turn around now.

65 posted on 11/09/2011 10:33:55 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier

Do you know the next debate date and format? I don’t.


66 posted on 11/09/2011 10:38:43 PM PST by txhurl
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To: txhurl
Well, if Perry’s planning to attend the next debate, apparently it ain’t.

Just because the man is willing to keep going, and still has the money to do so, doesn't mean that he's still a viable candidate.

He just hasn't caught fire with the voters. On the contrary, he's actually lost at least 22% of the support he came in with. I don't know why it's so hard for some folks to see that he's fading.

67 posted on 11/09/2011 10:43:04 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: bigbob

The beef is that all i heard about the debate was charges of sex haras against cain and perrys slip. Where’s the beef is my question. the coverage of the debate has not focused on issues when we are in very, very serious times that call for beef


68 posted on 11/09/2011 10:43:24 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: Windflier

I’m a teacher.

I had to do a class on Mary, and I was preparing for it and it totally slipped out of my head what we call the term for the holy spirit overshadowing Mary.

Could not for the life of me recall it. Sat down did some other stuff, and it came to me, annunciation.

Now I’ve taught this stuff before, but that’s memory for you. You get in the middle of things and that one, great word, just eludes you. It’s probably totally obvious.

It happens. I thought Perry did well, I don’t see how this one slip up is going to cost him. I’m really not sure why people are writing him off, but ok.


69 posted on 11/09/2011 10:46:34 PM PST by BenKenobi (Honkeys for Herman! 10 percent is enough for God; 9 percent is enough for government)
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To: Quicksilver
So, if Newt wins the nomination you will guarantee that he won’t stumble in a debate?

No, of course not, but I can guarantee you that Newt wouldn't have trouble stringing simple sentences together in every single debate he's in.

This isn't something new for Perry. He's been stumbling, mumbling, and bumbling since he first got into the race. Sorry, but people are going to judge a candidate on something like that. Looking at his slide in the polls, it's apparent that they've done so already.

70 posted on 11/09/2011 10:47:30 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: txhurl
on another thread it claims there was a !43 second stumble with Rick trying to name the three agencies he wants gone? 43 seconds?

I heard it on a live radio broadcast. It was so embarrassing, that I was turning red!

71 posted on 11/09/2011 10:50:18 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: txhurl
Do you know the next debate date and format? I don’t.

No. I don't even try to keep up with that. I just tune in when I see the threads pop up on the forum.

72 posted on 11/09/2011 10:52:02 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: BenKenobi
that’s memory for you. You get in the middle of things and that one, great word, just eludes you. It’s probably totally obvious.

It happens. I thought Perry did well, I don’t see how this one slip up is going to cost him.

What happened tonight isn't what's going to cost him. It's the chain of similar bad debate performances that has piled up into a train wreck of failures for Perry.

Not to mention some of the deal-breaking stances he's taken. It's death by a thousand gaffes.

73 posted on 11/09/2011 10:56:58 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Forty-Niner
On Aug 14 The site owner threaten to zot Perry supporters if they didn’t clean up their act. Most of the Palin supporters “bad behavior” was directed at these Perry supporters causing trouble on Palin threads....something the Perrywinkles have conviently forgot.

Threats don't have any impact on me; I have a life.

However, I've seen a few of the "Sarah Squad" get the zot for bad behavior, so they obviously aren't exempt.

74 posted on 11/09/2011 10:59:53 PM PST by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: Windflier

Well, let’s look at this realistically. He has six weeks to go before Iowa and New Hampshire.

There was an income earthquake the last few weeks: a ton of people lost their only (reported) income, unemployment insurance.

The next six weeks joe 6-pack and his wife are lost in Thankgiving and Christmas plans, and won’t be paying too much
attention to politics. Good for some candidates who need a break, but even better for one who who knows where and how to swoop at the last minute for the rally.

As a Texan (native or no), surely you know how Perry picks his battles. He wastes not one calorie of energy he doesn’t have to. I will eat my hat and whatever else is demanded of me if Perry doesn’t get out of that brier patch at the time he has the most opportunity.

Like I said, we’ll see. The SRM goes on vacation for the next six weeks. With those hyenas gone, Perry either will wrap it up or drop out. It’s one or the other.


75 posted on 11/09/2011 11:00:36 PM PST by txhurl
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To: txhurl
The next six weeks joe 6-pack and his wife are lost in Thankgiving and Christmas plans, and won’t be paying too much attention to politics. Good for some candidates who need a break, but even better for one who who knows where and how to swoop at the last minute for the rally.

Perry's been in the race since June, and has steadily lost ground the entire time. He's lost 22% off his initial high, which means that those voters walked from him and chose another candidate (the undecideds are a pretty small group at this point).

Perry has to win all those people back, and more, if he wants to be a contender again. So far, I don't see any evidence that he can. Every time he slips on his own tongue, his remaining supporters make excuses for him and say, "watch - he'll do better next time."

Well, that hasn't come to pass. He keeps failing to impress in these debates, and it's killing him.

Hiding out during the holidays isn't going to help his numbers. The other candidates will all be out there getting as much face time as possible, and he'll have to do the same, if he has any hope of regaining any of his lost ground.

Unless he can find some sort of other venue where he shines as bright as the sun, he's on a fool's errand.

76 posted on 11/09/2011 11:09:17 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Allegra

“I’ve seen a few of the “Sarah Squad” get the zot for bad behavior.....”

Like who? pissant???? lolololol


77 posted on 11/09/2011 11:17:01 PM PST by Forty-Niner (The barely bare, berry bear formerly known as..........Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: Windflier

OK, but if you’ve been around Texas for long, you know he doesn’t pick battles he don’t think he can win.

He’s not the type to run for POTUS so he can brag about it, and you know it. He’d only do it if the math supported the move.

And he has (pre-America) Ancient Establishment against him, he knows it yet he presses. Texas IS a whole ‘nother country, always has been, and has always used its trade advantages to tell DC how and where to stick it (if you don’t count the ‘re-construction’).


78 posted on 11/09/2011 11:23:05 PM PST by txhurl
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To: independent in tx

Yeah, to shallow people.


79 posted on 11/09/2011 11:37:03 PM PST by Politicalmom
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To: txhurl
Didn’t see the debate, but probably 85% of those who did including DC bureacRATS were screaming ENERGY! in their heads because they know what he intends to do with that department.

Best comment so far and certainly true.

I was thinking, Energy! because I've heard Perry list it so many times before - Education, EPA, Energy, HHS. And as mentioned earlier, as governor he's been battling these monsters up front and personal here in Texas -- and scoring wins against them.

It was touching and Christian of Perry to take some of that heat off of Herman Cain (Lord knows he needs it).

I wonder, will Rush come to Gov. Perry's defense today about a gaffe put up by Drudge, as Top News of the World, or not. Hmmmmmm???

80 posted on 11/09/2011 11:37:04 PM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Forty-Niner

I’m not going to name them out on the board, but they were extremely obnoxious.

I take it you were deeply in the tank as well?


81 posted on 11/09/2011 11:42:04 PM PST by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: alicewonders
Yes, he will do well turned out to graze in Texas . But his hunt for higher office is finished.
82 posted on 11/09/2011 11:47:34 PM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: Forty-Niner
On Aug 14 The site owner threaten to zot Perry supporters if they didn’t clean up their act.

That there's pretty interesting, seeing as how Perry didn't enter the race until August 13...

83 posted on 11/09/2011 11:54:39 PM PST by Allegra (Hey! Stop looking at my tagline like that.)
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To: Carl from Marietta

I asked her point blank 2 nights ago if she actually believed the things she posted. After trying to avoid the question she said that she did in a following post.

It is what it is.


84 posted on 11/10/2011 12:06:05 AM PST by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: BenKenobi

“I’m really not sure why people are writing him off, but ok.”

Because he stinks in debates, all of them. Duh.


85 posted on 11/10/2011 12:21:46 AM PST by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: Quicksilver

Newt does more than stumble when he repeats his mantra of destroying our “secular” society. That’s the part of him that scares me and I can’t get past it. Aside from the fact that it is wrong on its face, Christian or Judeo-Christian theocracy—even veiled approaches to it—paves the way for tolerance of Sharia and Lord knows what else. Keep America secular.

Too bad SCOTUS avoided this one. Clarence Thomas is right.


86 posted on 11/10/2011 12:25:37 AM PST by firebrand (It's almost too late.)
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To: Allegra; Windflier; onyx

As a Palinista I agree that there were indeed obnoxious troops in the ranks. Many consider me such. So be it.

Anyone with an ounce of integrety who is interested in seeing the truth about the Palin flamewars and how they compare to the Perry flame wars need only go back to the posts themselves and read. Of course that will take weeks of reading since the SP threads were one rolling nonstop trollfest.

You will note that some of the worst Palin trolls...jla, Clarity, Carling and a few others, were amongst the hardest of the hardcore Perry supporters. For every zotted Palinista, 5 or more Perry supporters self immoliated. And note I say ‘self’ immoliated. A few openly argued and got rather snippy with the boss.

Not one Perry supporter, nor one Palinista got the zot because of their prefered candidate. They crossed lines they should have known to leave alone and did it anyway.

That said, as readers peruse those threads, they will notice exceptions of course, but a couple things stand out. The people ragging on Palin used a lot of inuendo, false representation and flat out BS in their attempts to discredit her. You will see post after post by myself, Windflier, Onyx and others calling them on it and saying ‘lets debate the FACTS.”

On the Perry threads like this one, you see those of us pointing out FACTS about perry and his disassociation from conservative values. From the beginning issues like guardasil, TTC Gore and most importantly his stance on illegals/tuition/LaRaza and Muslims...all legitimate issues concerning this country... have been met with claims of irrelavance and being ‘personal attacks’.

As to the so called ‘attacks’ on Perry supporters themselves, people should not be shocked that when they defend and support non conservative positions on a conservative website that people take issue and respond in kind.


87 posted on 11/10/2011 12:30:37 AM PST by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: Nat Turner

It was Energy, Education and Commerce.


88 posted on 11/10/2011 12:52:41 AM PST by no dems (Why do you never see "Obama" bumper stickers on cars going to work in the morning?)
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To: Proud2BeRight

It is now between Gingrich and Cain for me now.
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That’s where I’ve been for weeks. And, btw, check this out: An investigator says Cain is innocent.

http://www.cbsatlanta.com/story/16002149/investigator-herman-cain-innocent-of-sexual-advances


89 posted on 11/10/2011 12:57:30 AM PST by no dems (Why do you never see "Obama" bumper stickers on cars going to work in the morning?)
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To: Norm Lenhart

I’ve made it my point to stay away from the flaws of our more conservative candidates, given that all have some weak points, but nothing compared to obama and Romney.

Not one vote has been cast, so all of our guys and Michele Bachmann remain the running.

I also omit Ron Paul, because he’s a Libertarian and I think he will run on that ticket and I find Huntsman a total 1% bore and RINO.


90 posted on 11/10/2011 12:59:18 AM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC BY DONATING NOW! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: Nat Turner

NO, Governor Perry’s third Department was AGRICULTURE and he recovered the very next round!

He made a human error. Like I said on the LIVE thread, he had a momentary memory lapse.

It happens to all of us.

I forget what I go into the kitchen for!


91 posted on 11/10/2011 1:02:08 AM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC BY DONATING NOW! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: txhurl

I know there is a FOX Debate, December 15th, from Sioux City, IA. Not sure if there is another before that.


92 posted on 11/10/2011 1:02:24 AM PST by no dems (Why do you never see "Obama" bumper stickers on cars going to work in the morning?)
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To: onyx

NO, Governor Perry’s third Department was AGRICULTURE and he recovered the very next round!
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Are you kidding or are you serious? The three were Commerce, Education and, the one he forgot...Energy.


93 posted on 11/10/2011 1:04:50 AM PST by no dems (Why do you never see "Obama" bumper stickers on cars going to work in the morning?)
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To: no dems

Yeah, Energy!
See? My memory is worse than Governor Perry’s, but I’d shut the EPA!


94 posted on 11/10/2011 1:14:52 AM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC BY DONATING NOW! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: onyx

Shutting the EPA is a foregone conclusion if any restart of the economy and American energy independence is to occur.

I don’t care if it’s a campaign issue (though it should be) as long as it’s in the top 3 things done by the incoming admin. Most of the lower of the Lib/Dems trace back to enviro BS.

BP cannot patrol the border over eco concerns and pays millions from their budget annually to the EPA for the areas they are ‘allowed’ to patrol. No I’m not kidding.

Logging/mining/drilling/fracking all stumoed by EPA regs.

Your local auto mechanic ...ever wonder where all the old style garages went? Ask the EPA.

And on and on...

Hay as a dust preventative = pollutant

Breath and cow flatulance = global warming.

and on and on...

Kill the EPA and american business thrives.

Land closure and rights stripped from land owners over turtles and bugs.

There is no end to the damage the EPA does daily.


95 posted on 11/10/2011 1:32:10 AM PST by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: Norm Lenhart

“Most of the lower “

POWER...grrrr....


96 posted on 11/10/2011 1:33:01 AM PST by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Exactly so. It has gone completely mad. Enviro whackos.


97 posted on 11/10/2011 1:35:47 AM PST by onyx (PLEASE SUPPORT FREE REPUBLIC BY DONATING NOW! Sarah's New Ping List - tell me if you want on it.)
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To: Allegra; TheMom; humblegunner; TheOldLady; thackney

Perry has a brain freeze, Our Sarah is a quitter, Romney is a gun grabbing baby killer, Cain is a boob grabbing pizza maker, Bachmann ....... who, oh the chick, Gingrich drives a Prius and Paul is a nut.

What are we going to do?

This ought to draw some fire and “go back to DU” comments!

;<)


98 posted on 11/10/2011 1:41:02 AM PST by Eaker (Nothing even remotely praising Romney should be posted because one should stick to the truth.)
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To: onyx

The enviro issue is my ‘thing’ as my history in the OHV world and related writings suggest. But that aside, people should think critically about it because it’s the one thing that touches all other aspects of Dem/Lib power/control.

There literally is no aspect of liberalism that does not use environmental concerns on big ways as the biggest hammer in the tool box.


99 posted on 11/10/2011 1:42:31 AM PST by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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To: Eaker

“Romney is a gun grabbing baby killer”

He is ;)


100 posted on 11/10/2011 1:43:42 AM PST by Norm Lenhart (Chief Druid of Trollhenge: Cult of Palin)
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