Questions on Sandusky Are Wrapped in a 2005 Mystery (Penn State)

The New York Slimes ^

[TigerClaws]

One of the questions surrounding the sex-abuse case against Jerry Sandusky is why a former district attorney chose not to prosecute the then-Penn State assistant coach in 1998 after reports surfaced that he had inappropriate interactions with a boy.

In 2005, divers searched the Susquehanna River in Lewisburg, Pa., for Ray Gricar, who was a Centre County prosecutor. The answer is unknowable because of an unsolved mystery: What happened to Ray Gricar, the Centre County, Pa., district attorney?

[Old Teufel Hunden]

"I was also told that if I hadn’t followed policy, I and anyone else who tried to wing it would be dismissed."

Okay, that might be a good excuse for the janitor who witnessed Sandusky sodomizing a boy. However, do you really think that Joepa was in danger of being fired for not following policy? Seriously? He makes the policy!!!!

"Paterno called Tim Curley ("Curley"), Penn State Athletic Director and Paterno's immediate superior, to his home the very next day, a Sunday, and reported to him that the graduate assistant had seen Jerry Sandusky in the Lasch Building showers fondling or doing something of a sexual nature to a young boy."

So by Joepa's very own testimony, he was told in the 2002 incident that Sandusky was in the showers with a young boy doing something sexual. Do you really think that Joepa did everything in his power to stop his former assistant? Let me ask you something, if McQuarry had told Joepa that Sandusky was in the shower doing something of a sexual nature not to a young boy, but to one of Joepa's grandchildren, do you think Joepa would have just reported it up the chain and left it at that? No, Joepa would have went to the police and got an investigation started. He would have had Sandusky banned from the campus. Which is what Joepa should have done in this situation. If McQuarry would not have went with him to the police, then he should have told the police what McQuarry told him and the police would have interviewed McQuarry. This is Joe Paterno. He's a god in Happy Valley!! He could have made things happen.

[dools0007world]

This is really the crux of it. Along with the fact that there was enough evidence to indicate Sandusky was a potential problem. The University was not beholden to continue the man’s asso. with the University.

All of this stems from basic moral defect and arrogance. The University actually believed it was protecting the “institution” by covering up and/or turning a blind eye. Rather than being upfront and deal with Sandusky immediately it knew of his shower room assault it went into “protect the institution mode”. It did not give a fig for the assaulted boy—or future Sandusky assaulted boys. PSU is reaping the cost of that immorality. Like the “prevent defense” it mostly fails.

I’m a PSU alum, 1961-65. I’ve watched a University I was proud to have graduated from turn hard left. Even in the sciences. Penn State professors have been in the forefront of the bogus global warming campaign and have been caught cooking their science.

In the mid 70’s I returned to PSU for homecoming. I was a journalism major and visited the journalism school building. A man approached and asked what class I was in and what I did after graduation. I told him I had been in the US Army for 5 years after graduation. He said “f*** you” and walked away. I later found out the man was dean of the Journalism School. In the late 60’s students tried to set fire to the Wagner Bldg. This building was used by Army, Navy and Air Force ROTC programs.

Presently a student mob is rioting in downtown State College destroying private property. This is what Marxist mobs excell at. The students are “protesting” Paterno’s dismissal.

Two years ago I returned to PSU for my 45th reunion. While walking about canpas I came upon the Student Union building. On a bench outside was a blind (why are so many of them blind?) obviously Muslin man with a Koran in his lap. He was conversing with a group of students in a low voice. Couldn’t hear what he was saying, but I bet I can guess.

The Penn State Board of Trustees has an opportunity to fix Penn State. But it must go much deeper than Firing Paterno and PSU Pres. Spanier. I wonder what it will do.

[Shannon]

That was the only incident involving Paterno.

That we know of.

[massgopguy]

Bob Parks put out on Facebook that there is one word missing from the Penn State story. “GAY”.

[Free Vulcan]

Until it comes out everything else is speculation. I don’t play those liberal games. If there is more we’ll know it soon enough.

[NewinTexsas]

The man was a pretty good football player when he was young

McQueary was recently the starting quarterback for PSU and had 30 years on Sandusky.

[NewinTexsas]

“Until it comes out everything else is speculation. I don’t play those liberal games. If there is more we’ll know it soon enough.”

People we know that knew Sandusky raped little boys.

President Spanier
AD Curley
VP Schultz
PSU Attorney Wendell Courtney
Second Mile Attorney Wendell Courtney
University Police (Detective Ronald Shreffler)
State College Police (Detective Ralph Ralston)
Department of Welfare (Investigator Jerry Lauro)
Child Services
County DA Gricar
County Prosecutors
Coach McQueary
Coach Paterno
Various elementary and high school officials
Second Mile officials
Joe Paterno’s staff including down to the janitors

[abb]

Must listen.

http://audio.weei.com/a/48513317/mark-madden-talks-about-the-penn-state-scandal-and-drops-a-new-bomb-about-jerry-sandusky.htm?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Thu, 10 Nov 2011

Our friend from Pittsburgh, Mark Madden, joins D&C to give his take on the Joe Paterno/Penn State scandal

[NewinTexsas]

This may be a ring and if we let the media bait us into a feeding-frenzy on Paterno the real players may get away.

Paterno's fault. If he had stood and and said and done the right thing but he did not. The gall of the old guy. The first thing he said to the media was "If these charges are true". Good God. He knows they are true. He has agreed to testify against them.

And his 'pep rally' last night. It was all about him. He was smiling, laughing talking about how great life was. He is in the spotlight because of who he is and how he acts. As I said last night, 'I don't think his mind works right anymore.'

[NewinTexsas]

I was in that situation, followed the company policy, reported that I was contacted by the accused and the incident was properly handled.

What would you have done if it had not been handled properly? Kept quiet to save your job?

[NewinTexsas]

Listening. I have seen (due to google) several articles written about the investigation during the investigation and have posted here wondering why no real coverage and everyone is all of sudden acting like this is breaking news. As I said, EVERY ONE knew. I probably should add the press and the board of trustees to my list.

People we know that knew Sandusky raped little boys.

President Spanier
AD Curley
VP Schultz
PSU Attorney Wendell Courtney
Second Mile Attorney Wendell Courtney
University Police (Detective Ronald Shreffler)
State College Police (Detective Ralph Ralston)
Department of Welfare (Investigator Jerry Lauro)
Child Services
County DA Gricar
County Prosecutors
Coach McQueary
Coach Paterno
Various elementary and high school officials
Second Mile officials
Joe Paterno’s staff including down to the janitors

[NewinTexsas]

Mark is talking but I beat him to the prediction that Spanier and Paterno would be gone ASAP. (Post Nov. 7). Mark is now saying that big things will come out about Second Mile. I have been posting for days that this was not football but was about a sex ring.

[abb]

Absolutely stunning.

[allmendream]

And a mere SEVEN YEARS later........

Whatever the lame excuse for not choosing to prosecute, or do much of anything AT ALL- ending up dead SEVEN YEARS LATER was probably not one of them.

[NewinTexsas]

Mark is saying Bradley’s career is finished. He was there for 31 years.

BTW, it was one of Mark’s articles that I had read from April of this year.

[Free Vulcan]

Wrong newby. You treat Paterno as if he has god-like powers. I think that’s fantasy. I doubt he even knew about most of what was going on. In fact nobody knew because 4 of the 8 victims were never witnessed by anyone, one was never reported, one was completely off campus, and one wasn’t witnessed but reported by the mother after the fact based on indirect evidence, and then dismissed by the police and DA.

You can gut Joe open and burn him at the altar in some kind of turd world scapegoating, but the bottom line is that whatever Joe did, his superiors, the DA, and the police were 10X worse. Yet you want to keep the Alinsky-like focus on JoePa for some kind of cathartic bloodfest. Keep doing that and the bigger fish you listed will get away.

[NewinTexsas]

So according to Mark, what we have here is a sex-ring supplying little boys to rich PSU donors. Sick that Joe would help cover that up.

One might say that it was too big for Joe to bring down but if it was that big Joe was the one person that could bring it down ... with one call to the governor.

[old and tired]

The thing is Joe Pa should go down for what he has failed to do. As should the others as well. Excusing Paterno is the same as excusing the Catholic Hierarchy. What would you have done if you were in Paterno’s shoes? Would you have let the issue die with a single instance of reporting it? If not, why do you hold Paterno to a lesser standard than yourself? Just because he’s major college football’s winningest coach he gets exemption from acting like a human being?

[abb]

Assuming the governor “didn’t know.” But explain these remarks from the governor a couple of days ago.

http://articles.mcall.com/2011-11-09/sports/mc-penn-state-joe-paterno-corbett-20111109_1_tom-corbett-sandusky-president-graham-spanier

Tom Corbett on Penn State mess
November 09, 2011|By John L. Micek, CALL HARRISBURG BUREAU

HARRISBURG — Gov. Tom Corbett on Wednesday said he was “personally disappointed in the lack of action” by university officials. “And I had to contain that for the last two years.”

Corbett, a former state attorney general, said his office first began investigating accusations against Sandusky in 2009, after receiving a referral from the Centre County District Attorney’s Office. Because of his investigatory role, he declined to comment on many of the specifics in the case.

[Tribune7]

So according to Mark, what we have here is a sex-ring supplying little boys to rich PSU donors.

I wouldn't be surprised if Second Mile was that.

but if it was that big Joe was the one person that could bring it down ... with one call to the governor.

Of course, you are still not the slickest bit of oil in the salad.