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Questions on Sandusky Are Wrapped in a 2005 Mystery (Penn State)
The New York Slimes ^

Posted on 11/09/2011 10:32:36 PM PST by TigerClaws

One of the questions surrounding the sex-abuse case against Jerry Sandusky is why a former district attorney chose not to prosecute the then-Penn State assistant coach in 1998 after reports surfaced that he had inappropriate interactions with a boy.

In 2005, divers searched the Susquehanna River in Lewisburg, Pa., for Ray Gricar, who was a Centre County prosecutor. The answer is unknowable because of an unsolved mystery: What happened to Ray Gricar, the Centre County, Pa., district attorney?

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Unclassified
KEYWORDS: gay; gaystate; homosexualagenda; nyslimes; paterno; pederastagenda; pederasty; pedophile; pedophileagenda; pennstate; sandusky
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To: abb
But explain these remarks from the governor a couple of days ago. . . Gov. Tom Corbett on Wednesday said he was “personally disappointed in the lack of action” by university officials. “And I had to contain that for the last two years.”

He wanted to have a chance to get convictions.

41 posted on 11/10/2011 7:36:26 AM PST by Tribune7 (If you demand perfection you will wind up with leftist Democrats)
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To: Tribune7
but if it was that big Joe was the one person that could bring it down ... with one call to the governor.

Of course, you are still not the slickest bit of oil in the salad.

You keep making it personal but don't refute my post.

42 posted on 11/10/2011 7:37:35 AM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: abb
Assuming the governor “didn’t know.” But explain these remarks from the governor a couple of days ago.

I was thinking that Joe should have called the governor YEARS ago. Tom Ridge was governor in 1998.

43 posted on 11/10/2011 7:40:14 AM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: NewinTexsas; old and tired

JoePa is gone. There was no cover-up by Joe, Joe didn’t tell McQueary not to report it, there was that one incident and not a string where Joe stopped someone from reporting or squelched an investigation. Let’s call it one-time negligent inaction. We’ve set the punishment for his inaction by saying he should lose his job right now. Fine.

That only raises the bar for everyone else above him, because they engaged in willful obstruction, actual cover-up, and possibly worse. If Joe should lose his job they should go to jail. Where do you think I’m going to put my focus, on Joe or them?


44 posted on 11/10/2011 7:42:01 AM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: Free Vulcan
You can gut Joe open and burn him at the altar in some kind of turd world scapegoating, but the bottom line is that whatever Joe did, his superiors, the DA, and the police were 10X worse. Yet you want to keep the Alinsky-like focus on JoePa for some kind of cathartic bloodfest. Keep doing that and the bigger fish you listed will get away.

It happened in Joe's locker room and Joe knew it. Joe thought it more important to go out and win on Saturday than to do the right thing and stop it.

45 posted on 11/10/2011 7:42:48 AM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: Free Vulcan
Keep doing that and the bigger fish you listed will get away.

If you and others would quit defending Paterno with your pathetic lies about how he 'knew nothing' we could move on. Thank you.

46 posted on 11/10/2011 7:44:28 AM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: Free Vulcan
JoePa is gone. There was no cover-up by Joe

Joe knew Sandusky was raping boys in Joe's locker room. What did Joe do? He covered it up ... FOR YEARS! Joe has the burden of knowing that every boy that was raped after 1998 by Sandusky and the other members of the sex-ring could have been saved from that ordeal if he had stood up like a man.

But, we saw him laughing and smiling last night enjoying the attention. The dude's mind don't work right.

47 posted on 11/10/2011 7:48:18 AM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: NewinTexsas
but if it was that big Joe was the one person that could bring it down ... with one call to the governor.

Paterno is a Republican. He does not have as much clout as you think he has. Just about every candidate he has endorsed in this state has lost. He could not even get his own kid elected to Congress.

When it came to politics, Spanier had a lot more influence and success than JoePa -- especially during the Rendell years.

When the global warming scandal happened Spanier had no problem at all squashing it. He had no problem getting rid of Joe Bastardi when Bastardi started expressing skepticism of AGW.

So, no. Paterno could not have made this go away with "one call to the governor."

In fact, in a head-to-head with Spanier on anything other than the football team, I think JoePa would have lost.

48 posted on 11/10/2011 7:49:26 AM PST by Tribune7 (If you demand perfection you will wind up with leftist Democrats)
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To: Free Vulcan
Wrong newby.

I am 65. How old are you?

49 posted on 11/10/2011 7:49:26 AM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: NewinTexsas

Your hyperbole is crap newby. You can engage in the media bloodlust of the great JoePa coverup and conspiracy all you want, the grand jury report says otherwise. You talk about calling the Governor, the President, the UN, Jesus, and leading a contingent of Marines to destroy the place in some righteous crusade, but in the end it’s all bloviating, because you’re trying to leverage a heinous crime into some off-the-hinge mob frenzy.

I want justice. Real justice. Curley, Schultz, the DA, and the cops were the gatekeepers, the ones willfully enabling. Why won’t you focus on them.? It kind of bothers me.


50 posted on 11/10/2011 7:50:13 AM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: Tribune7
Paterno is a Republican. He does not have as much clout as you think he has. Just about every candidate he has endorsed in this state has lost. He could not even get his own kid elected to Congress. When it came to politics, Spanier had a lot more influence and success than JoePa -- especially during the Rendell years.

It really sucks to try to make an argument without knowing what you are talking about, doesn't it.

Tom Ridge was governor in 1998. He was a republican.

51 posted on 11/10/2011 7:51:44 AM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: NewinTexsas

Breathing air for a given number of years doesn’t mean squat.


52 posted on 11/10/2011 7:52:19 AM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: All

I don’t give a good g$$-damn how big the piece of zhit is, I”m going after him and I’m going to hurt him if I witness it.


53 posted on 11/10/2011 7:53:54 AM PST by Maverick68
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To: Free Vulcan; Tribune7
I want justice. Real justice. Curley, Schultz, the DA, and the cops were the gatekeepers, the ones willfully enabling. Why won’t you focus on them.? It kind of bothers me.

Because you keep posting trying to protect and deny that Joe was involved. Admit that Joe was involve and we can move on. I see you and Tribune7 keep every sort of false argument on why Joe was not involved and how he had no power to stop Sandusky from raping kids in his locker room and you keep us focused on Joe. If you want to move on, admit Joe was involved and we can move on. If you want to stay focused on trying to show that Joe was not involved, we can keep on talking about Joe. Up to you.

54 posted on 11/10/2011 7:55:10 AM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: Tribune7
So, no. Paterno could not have made this go away with "one call to the governor."

Are you implying that Tom Ridge would have covered it up? Why do you say that?

55 posted on 11/10/2011 7:57:30 AM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: Free Vulcan
the DA

The DA is missing ... legally declared dead last month.

56 posted on 11/10/2011 7:58:21 AM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: NewinTexsas

Joe is gone. Try and keep up. Again I have made it clear that whatever Joe did or didn’t do, the higher ups are 10X guilty.

Again Joe is gone. The grand jury report shows no willful pattern of cover-up, obstruction, or anything else with JoePa All the breathless screeching, stamping, and provacateuring by you isn’t going to change that. It does show that with his superiors.

I question why you keep up the bloodlust for him when the facts say otherwise.


57 posted on 11/10/2011 7:59:40 AM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: Free Vulcan

“I want justice. Real justice. Curley, Schultz, the DA, and the cops were the gatekeepers, the ones willfully enabling. Why won’t you focus on them.? It kind of bothers me.”

I have. I am the one that has been keeping the following list and posting it.

People we know that knew Sandusky raped little boys.

President Spanier
AD Curley
VP Schultz
PSU Attorney Wendell Courtney
Second Mile Attorney Wendell Courtney
University Police (Detective Ronald Shreffler)
State College Police (Detective Ralph Ralston)
Department of Welfare (Investigator Jerry Lauro)
Child Services
County DA Gricar
County Prosecutors
Coach McQueary
Coach Paterno
Various elementary and high school officials
Second Mile officials
Joe Paterno’s staff including down to the janitors


58 posted on 11/10/2011 7:59:48 AM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: Free Vulcan
If Joe should lose his job they should go to jail.

You really do not keep informed do you ...

59 posted on 11/10/2011 8:00:49 AM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: NewinTexsas
Tom Ridge was governor in 1998. He was a republican.

OK, so it's 1998 we are talking about and not 2005 like in the title.

Paterno calls Ridge and says "hey, this Sandusky is a perv, we got to shut down Second Mile". So Ridge says, "What?" Paterno says, "Yeah, the police just investigated". And Ridge says "Did they charge him with anything?" And Joe says "No."

And Ridge says, "Well, a governor does not have the power to shut down a duly established legal entity and, uh, I got someone on the other line"

60 posted on 11/10/2011 8:01:22 AM PST by Tribune7 (If you demand perfection you will wind up with leftist Democrats)
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