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Seniors Rally in Boston Against Cuts to Social Programs (Seniors for Socialism Alert)
The Wall Street Journal ^ | 2011-11-10 | Jennifer Levitz

Posted on 11/10/2011 5:54:35 AM PST by rabscuttle385

BOSTON–Chanting “hands off” and “no cuts,” hundreds of seniors rallied here to warn Congress’s deficit-cutting supercommittee to stay away from Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid.

“When you get older, you need help, not cuts,” said Steve Ciardi, a former pipe fitter who has multiple sclerosis and was in a wheelchair being pushed by his wife, Patty.

“That is what the country is about – helping people,” she said.

AARP Massachusetts, the SEIU and AFL-CIO labor unions, and several senior activist groups are organizing the event, which kicked off this morning with a rally at the historic Wang Theatre in downtown Boston.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: 0bama; acorn; biggovernment; fedzilla; fubo; fumr; obama; obots; ponzischeme; redistribution; romney; romney4ponzischemes; seiu; seniors4socialism; socialistinsecurity; unions

1 posted on 11/10/2011 5:54:39 AM PST by rabscuttle385
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To: rabscuttle385

“That is what the country is about – helping people,” she said.
_________________________________________________

AH No

The country is about opportunity for people to work and save and help themselves...

and stand on their own two feet..


2 posted on 11/10/2011 5:59:12 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: rabscuttle385
"“That is what the country is about – helping people,” she said"

I'm sorry; the Government is not empowered to "help" people by penalizing others.

Charity is the helper.

Likewise, this Country is ABOUT FAMILIES and GOD, helping their own. When the "family" consists of multiple households on Welfare or Government assistance for their entire lives, we have gone TOO FAR.

3 posted on 11/10/2011 6:01:22 AM PST by traditional1 ("Don't gotsta worry 'bout no mo'gage, don't gotsta worry 'bout no gas; Obama gonna take care o' me!)
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To: rabscuttle385
SEIU and AFL-CIO labor unions, and several senior activist groups are organizing the event, which kicked off this morning with a rally at the historic Wang Theatre

The Wang Theatre is an appropriate venue for a collection of meat puppets.

4 posted on 11/10/2011 6:02:20 AM PST by edpc (Wilby 2012)
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To: rabscuttle385

Massachusetts Motto:

“No tax is too high, no outrage is too small, and no sacrifice is necessary.”


5 posted on 11/10/2011 6:03:05 AM PST by RexBeach (There is no such thing as a good tax - Winston Churchill)
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To: rabscuttle385

Just where do they think the money for entitlement programs comes from? The trees?

They would rather leave our children in debt than sacrifice so they can have a future.

Go figure.


6 posted on 11/10/2011 6:05:36 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: traditional1
"“That is what the country is about – helping people,” she said"

LOL. Translation" "That is what the country is about -- helping ME. Gimme Gimme Gimme and make someone else pay for it."

7 posted on 11/10/2011 6:06:33 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: rabscuttle385

Maybe I’m wrong (and if so, I have no doubt smeone will correct me) but I was under the impression that the ostensible rationale for the government docking your paycheck every month, month after month, for forty or more years, was so that you could get back the money you EARNED as social security payments.


8 posted on 11/10/2011 6:21:01 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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To: rabscuttle385

"Tell the media you seniors want your benefits."
"Yes Mr. SEIU."
"No, say it to the media, not me."
"Yes, Mr. SEIU."
"Sigh. Some one get me another senior..."

9 posted on 11/10/2011 6:26:10 AM PST by mrsmith
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To: rabscuttle385
“That is what the country is about – helping people."

Ask not what you can do for your country, but what your country can do for you.

10 posted on 11/10/2011 6:29:42 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Obama: The stupid person`s idea of a smart person.)
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To: rabscuttle385

It is one thing for the OWS people to be clueless but these people?
NO ONE, Dem or GOP, has ever said anything about cutting their SS and medicare.
well except Obamacare will likely cause cuts in some care.
so why aren’t they protesting 0dumbo?

No one in cngress has sugggested cutting anyone who is currently receiving SS or is about to.

Who whipped these people up?


11 posted on 11/10/2011 6:33:50 AM PST by RWGinger (Simpl)
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To: Tennessee Nana

AARP is a union racket of the oldsters. They have been Anti-capitalist maybe since their conception, but American retirees support them in hoards for the hotel discounts. ICK! There are other organizations out there besides AARP’s racket. Find one.


12 posted on 11/10/2011 6:35:12 AM PST by RitaOK (Texas. Exhibit A for Rick, who needs to pound the fiction flackers back into the Stone Age.)
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To: RWGinger

You are right. This is a true media crime. To score points against Republicans, the media is suggesting that Republicans want to cut the SS checks of current seniors. What a horrible lie. The GOP and any other sane adult in America, wants to raise the retirement age and cut the rate of growth of benefits for people from 55 and younger. These seniors are at best dupes and at worst willing props in the defense of an unsustainable entitlement state. They are protesting cuts that won’t impact them and the result will be the destruction of the country after they die.


13 posted on 11/10/2011 6:38:10 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: rabscuttle385

AARP in bed with the union thugs. I wish they would quit sending me their garbage.


14 posted on 11/10/2011 6:39:06 AM PST by windsorknot
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To: RitaOK

American retirees support them in hoards for the hotel discounts.
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you can get hotel discounts by just being over 60..

cruise discounts ...55

movie discounts 55 or 60..

etc

you dont have to join the AARP


15 posted on 11/10/2011 6:40:24 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: rabscuttle385
AARP Massachusetts, the SEIU and AFL-CIO labor unions, and several senior activist groups are organizing the event, ...

Interesting the AARP is throwing in with the SEIU and AFL-CIO. Glad I didn't join.

16 posted on 11/10/2011 6:42:39 AM PST by OrioleFan
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To: Tennessee Nana
“That is what the country is about – helping people,”

She needed to fill in the blank:

churches

friends

family

NOT GOVERNMENT !

17 posted on 11/10/2011 6:43:31 AM PST by super7man
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To: rabscuttle385

What an interesting web we weave.

“The typical U.S. household headed by a person age 65 or older has a net worth 47 times greater than a household headed by someone under 35, according to an analysis of census data released Monday.”

When the SHTF, who will survive? The old or the young that are being oppressed and saddled with debt?

Will state and federal workers retirees form gangs to claim what the government promised them?


18 posted on 11/10/2011 6:59:37 AM PST by listenhillary (Look your representatives in the eye and ask if they intend to pay off the debt. They will look away)
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To: RWGinger

Absolutely right.

Newt addressed the underlying problme twice in debates now...the Social Security was moved into the general budget back in 1968...there is no longer a trust fund. We need to move the current Social Security as the TRUST FUND it was meant to be and understand the real size of the deficit. Enough with the shell game accounting tricks.

I don’t blame people one bit for being threatened they can’t get what they’ve paid into all their lives. And the Left is perpetuating that.

However...Congress pays nothing into Social Security. As Herman Cain says, when it’s YOUR money, you make better decisions.

So, Congress has two choices. Eliminate their current retirement plan and join Social Security like the rest of us are forced to do...or let us develop a plan like Congress has. Or our own retirement account.

AARP is crooked..and I will NEVER join. they ushered in 0bama and his healthcare...and will be the first ones to claimm and exemption. They can step off.


19 posted on 11/10/2011 7:05:03 AM PST by SueRae (I can see November 2012 from my HOUSE!!!!!!!!)
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To: Jack Hammer

Check out this document from GAO:

www.gao.gov/new.items/d05193sp.pdf

Your money is not deposited anywhere. The dollar amount is credited to the trust fund, which does not actually contain money. (pg. 17)

SSI is a defined benfits pension, not a defined contribution system. (pg 18)

It is also uses “pay as you go” (i.e. ponzi) financing meaning most money going in pays current recipients. (pg 22).

I’m still trying to track down how much SSI actually costs the taxpayer. Remember, it’s not just benefits paid out, it’s the salaries of gov’t workers at SSA along w/their generous benefits. It’s also the cost of those SS buildings to house those employees’ workplace and requisite IT infrastructure.

Such items do not appear in the SS budget, as far as I can tell. The “overhead” in the SS budget applies to financial services associated w/Medicare (as far as I can tell).

I’ve tried looking through fed budgets to see what the employees of SS cost us, along w/buildings, etc., to no avail. Not enough time for me to do that research.


20 posted on 11/10/2011 7:29:05 AM PST by fruser1
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To: rabscuttle385
I'm sure this is an unpopular opinion with some on FR, but. . .

I'm all for cuts for the future (i.e. starting with people in their 40s who know they won't have this in their lives and can plan for it). But I'm not in favor of cuts that are going to hurt people who are currently dependent on these things.

Yes, they should have saved more in their working years, but they didn't because they expected to have these benefits available in their "golden years". (And they DID pay in to social security expecting it to be there.)

21 posted on 11/10/2011 8:06:11 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: fruser1

Yes, I’ve heard it’s a government-mandated swindle; however, it’s not like the Oldsters didn’t earn the money.


22 posted on 11/10/2011 8:06:18 AM PST by Jack Hammer
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23 posted on 11/10/2011 8:12:54 AM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: SueRae

This is absolutely true and important.
“AARP is crooked..and I will NEVER join. they ushered in 0bama and his healthcare...and will be the first ones to claimm and exemption.”

I took my aunt to one of the first meetings ARP held on obamacare here in dallas.
those AARP folks thought they were going to be talking to a bunch of sweet agreeable grandmas and granpa.s

instead the people had done their homework and blasted the AARP talkers on why they were supporting and working for a plan that would destroy medical care for everyone.
The AARP workers tried to lie and say they weren’t lobbbying for obamacare and were booed.
they left with those old people yelling at them.
It was wonderful.

so most seniors do get it. These people in Boston must have been recruited


24 posted on 11/10/2011 8:27:15 AM PST by RWGinger (Simpl)
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To: MEGoody
Yes, they should have saved more in their working years, but they didn't because they expected to have these benefits available in their "golden years". (And they DID pay in to social security expecting it to be there.)

They also voted for politicians who took that money and spent it on other things.

Now, they expect future generations to pay the bill.

25 posted on 11/10/2011 9:32:17 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Live Free or Die)
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To: rabscuttle385
They also voted for politicians who took that money and spent it on other things.

Yes, some of them did. (Not all of them, of course.)

Now, they expect future generations to pay the bill.

Sort of. They all paid in to social security, and they all paid taxes throughout their working lives. It isn't fair to paint them with the same brush used to paint those who have lived on welfare all their lives.

Again, I'm all for changing things for future retirees, but not for yanking it from those already dependent.

26 posted on 11/11/2011 6:40:34 AM PST by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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