Skip to comments.Scoring the CNBC Debate: Romney and Gingrich Shine; Perry Doesn’t
Posted on 11/10/2011 7:09:06 AM PST by SeekAndFind
No one touched Romney. He was unflappable and knowledgeable. He again showed the right political instinct to want to address the struggles of the middle class, although his tax plan doesnt do it. His China-bashing will probably play well in the Midwest, although its foolhardy on the merits. He consistently got applause. I remember one of the early debates when Romney was flying above the other candidates and PawlentyI thinkattacked him and he declined to reply, saying thats fine. He said the same thing tonight when Santorum went after him. After all the churning in the race, Romney is in the same basically comfortable place he was in several months ago.
Gingrich was on his game from the beginning when he let loose a ringing anti-Bernake, anti-food stamps, anti-Alinsky answer. This was the Newt everyone thought wed see before he got in the race. I thought he was much too irritable with the moderators, but a GOP audience probably doesnt mind and Maria Bartiromo matched him unpleasantness for unpleasantness. The narrative about his rise will continue.
Cain was fun as always. He got off a couple of great lines and was helped by the ill-advised decision of the moderators to press him about the sexual harassment accusations in his forum. His frequent resort to 999 still gets laughs, although eventually the charm of this trope will wear thin. On substance, he clearly lacks the fluidity of a Romney or the depth of a Gingrich.
I thought Perry would get better after his first debate. I was wrong. I thought he couldnt do worse than his last few debate performances. I was wrong. His blank moment on the three cabinet agencies was very uncomfortable to watch. It could happen to any of us, but having it happen to him, on this stage, was devastating. Perry passed on a couple of chances to hit Romney, so clearly his hope was to just skate through this debate, and he couldnt manage it. Its shame for him, but will presumably help Gingrich and Cain.
To his credit, Santorum continued to be the only Republican willing to acknowledge and address the economic travails of people without a college degree. But hes not as compelling as the other candidates, and theres always one unfortunate moment in every debate where he feels he has to brag, in rapid-fire fashion, about all the wonderful things hes done. Bachmann was basically a non-factor. Notably, she persists in arguing that people who arent paying federal income taxes arent participating fully in American lifeits the reverse side of Elizabeth Warrenism. Huntsman was annoying. I find myself increasingly charmed by old Ron Paul.
cain nailed every shot taken and him.
also, cain had the line of the night
on frank and dodd.
C’mon....ADMIT IT! ....You really hate Romney because he’s a Mormon. You’ll do anything you can to get someone else.
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No one touched Romney. He was unflappable and knowledgeable.
was he watching the same debate i was ???
RINO inside the beltway banter.
We need leadership skills not policy wonks.
Playing it safe and pandering may get Romney elected, but he’ll fail as President because pandering is leading from the rear. We have one of those already. I won’t go to the polls for Romney. There isn’t enough of a difference to bother to show up.
Mitt, Newt, and Cain all had good nights. Huntsman, Bachmann, too. But their numbers are so far down, I don’t see them really making an impact.
Paul and Santorum were true to their principals,...but didn’t move people to their camp.
Perry blew it, I think. Not a bash, just an observation.
He again showed the right political instinct to want to address the struggles of the middle class, although his tax plan doesnt do it.
Yeah that “political instinct”
Lil Willie Mitty the trust fund baby doesnt know middle class...
Im sure he has the “political instint” to ask one of his handlers about lives of the peons though..
But they dont seem to know either...
His 59 tax plan sounds like something from Obamas play book...
It’s coming down to Cain, Gingrich and Romney. Should be interesting.
You really hate Romney because hes a Mormon
Since you mentioned it..
“Seed of Cain” is going to beat “white and delightsome”
is that why you are upset RomneyBot ???
Exactly, I thought Romney was REALLY good at dodging all the questions and especially good at throwing Cain under the bus...the people can decide that for themselves he said regarding whether HE would hire someone like Cain.
The money and support is pouring in for Herman Cain, but we cannot slow down now. Please help him by donating at http://www.hermancain.com/
Also to help join the buzz about Herman go to facebook.com and like him. His likes have jumped dramatically since the attacks started. Make no mistake Sean Hannitys BFF Tokyo Rove is watching Hermans likes and so is Romney. THIS is the way to stick it to the GOP establishment! Please tell your family and friends to like Herman as well. Then lets bring out our most powerful tool for helping Herman Cain: PRAYING that God protects him from the people of darkness.
Yes, Perry blew it big time and he seriously needs to withdraw from the race. He's become a joke and will not be able to overcome the gaffe last night. I liken it to a Howard Dean scream moment and know he'll be spoofed unmercifully (you know SNL will do a skit).
I cringe thinking how Obama would eat him up and spit him out in a debate if he were to get the nomination.
..establishment spin and complete nonsense...
Debate true score, no bias, Gingrich, Cain, Romney!!! Romney cannot beat Obama!!! So....my choices for POTUS are Cain/Gingrich, Cain/Rubio, Cain/Palin, Gingrich/Cain, and the only one that will work for Mitt Romney, Romney/Cain!!! Romney, IMHO will turn to Cain as his VP choice. Both Cain & Romney are tight!!! Best ticket IMHO by a long shot = Herman Cain/Marco Rubio!!! Not only the best ticket, but......the winning one, by a landslide of unforeseen proportions!!!!
I hate RINOmney because he couldn’t maintain direction even if he were on rails.
He’s a spineless t*rd with no ability to keep an idea for more than a few microseconds.
I don’t give a smelly Obama about the fact that he’s a Mormon. I’ve not met any Mormon I’ve not liked and respected...but thankfully, I’ve not met RINOmney..., since that would ruin my record.
May the flies of a thousand camels come to rest in his beer.
If you wanted real leadership and solutions, you loved Cain and Newt.
So what do you want GOP? Style with out substance or substance without style?
( Herman Cain)he clearly lacks the fluidity of a Romney
Oops the author didnt edit for errors...
He meant to write fraudulence..
I’m liking Newt more and more.
the only one that will work for Mitt Romney, Romney/Cain!!! Romney, IMHO will turn to Cain as his VP choice.
Romneys SLC handlers wont let him have Cain as VP...
Please, please, please reconsider! Especially if Romney is the GOP nominee, it is important for us to vote. If Obama wins, we need a conservative Congress to stop the rapid spread of socialism from a far left White House. If Romney wins, we need a conservative Congress to stop the moderately rapid spread of socialism from a moderately leftist White House. Either way, we need every conservative in the country out there voting in the primaries and again on election day, 2012. I don't care whether it's Obama or Romney either, but I care a whole lot about the Congress that we have to protect America from either of them.
I doubt if Romney has any blacks working for him...
Bull Shiite Muslim. There is a big difference between Hussein and Romney.
There is a big difference between Hussein and Romney.
Ones half black and half white ???
and the other is half white with a black heart against unborn babies...
Cain is a lightweight.His 999 routine is getting old.Its time he went back to selling pizza.
I strongly believe that Obummer is driving us into Fascism. Of course Fascism does come with a heavy dose of socialism.
I furthermore predict that the leftist President will start soon to condemn private businesses and will try to make the point that it is time for Government to take control in order to protect the public.
We are sliding fast and cannot allow another four years of domination by this administration.
Romney is my least favorite except for Huntsman. He is a slick, wishy-washy man. On the other hand, 0bama and his Administration are pure evil. They will destroy the country if given four more years in power. At least with Romney if we get a majority in the Senate and House, we have a chance of slowing or turning back the destruction because we can keep his timid feet to the fire on important things.
That alone is reason enough to vote for him even though he is one of the worst choices on our side. It's either that, or America is finished as a constitutional republic.
Those are sad choices, but they may be what we have to work with in 2012. I refuse to cut off my nose to spite my face by going either for a third party and a sure loser or staying home and getting four years with a wicked man in charge.
I would rather have Romney than certain violence and increasing breakdown at home and abroad. We may get it anyhow, but at least with him we have a chance to turn things away from the sure catastrophy we now face.
If Romney is the candidate,
NONE OF US WILL VOTE FOR ROMNEY.
You understand that. He understands that.
The GOP understands that. The DNC wants that.
Instead the name of the best alternative or 3rd party
will be put in TO PUT IN THE MOST CONSERVATIVE.
The Elite in Washington like Romney because they know he will keep things pretty much the same as they are in Washington. Plus they can control him.
Cain is the people’s choice and has great integerity compared to the rest. Why else do you think the establishment (both parties) are trashing Cain’s character. They KNOW the people trust Cain, but DO NOT TRUST the rest.
YOU WILL NOT VOTE FOR ROMNEY .....WHY?
Rick Perry has to be the stupidest son of a bitch that ever ran for president.He makes GW Bush look like Stephen Hawking.
He has to be the worst candidate I ever saw in my 56 years.He is beyond laughable.
I will not vote for Romney, and certainly not for the drug-addled communist occupying our White House, but I will vote. I'll vote for the House, for the Senate, and for state and local candidates. I'll write in Palin/Cain, or Cain/Bachmann, or Bachmann/DeMint, or some other acceptable combination for the White House, but I will not under any circumstances vote for Mitt. And, no, I don't see that as a vote for Obama. I see it as a vote against either a rapid (Obama) or a slow (Mitt) transition to socialism.
You see, even though the great majority of you will not publicly admit it, private conversations with many conservatives around the nation leads me to believe that it is almost solely because of his (Romney’s) religion that you will refuse to support him. I am hoping to get that out into the open so we can argue it out and get over it.
Romney has made some mistakes in the past that makes him seem like a flip-flopper. We know many of the same people, Romney and I, and I am convinced that he has ALWAYS been anti-abortion. He has ALWAYS been anti gay marriage. He has ALWAYS been a genuine fiscal conservative. In fact, I believe most of you would agree with 90% of his positions 90% of the time. His mistake was pretending to be a moderate in order to get elected in ultra liberal Mass. I think he is trying to correct that now, but that is HIS poor judgement so he’s going to have to live with it.
Besides he ranks HIGHER in all national polls vis a vis he ability to beat Obama in 2012.
I’m just sayin’, if you refuse to vote for Romney because he’s a Mormon, just say so. Lets hash it out and get past it so we can unseat the greatest threat to the American republic since King George.
And Perry is still a whole lot better than Mitt Romney.
“He has ALWAYS been anti gay marriage. He has ALWAYS been a genuine fiscal conservative. In fact, I believe most of you would agree with 90% of his positions 90% of the time. His mistake was pretending to be a moderate in order to get elected in ultra liberal Mass. I think he is trying to correct that now, but that is HIS poor judgement so hes going to have to live with it.”
I’m glad someone else is trying to get through to some of these thick heads.
It was pointed out last nite that that while he was Gov. of Ma. he had to go against/work with an 85% Liz Warren/Nancy Pelosi type democrats in the legislature.He always worked against illeagal aliens and was for the death penalty and for tax cuts.
If Mitt has at least one republican branch of congress to work with he will be a suitable conservative without a doubt.
Cain is going to need a huge amount of support to overcome the establishment. If it happens, I will be pleasantly surprised, keyword: surprised. I'm starting to believe Gingrich is the most conservative that the establishment will allow to win. Whether he can beat Obama is questionable. Ginrgich absolutely needs a minority on the VP ticket.
fluidity = slipperyness
Perry’s campaign is over. Now.... I wonder if he will throw his support/supporters behind Newt Gingrich? At the debates, Perry consistently nods his head in approval of everything Newt has to say.
Newt won this debate as he has all the others. I like Cain as my second choice, that being said I will vote for and support the Republican nominee, it’s too important not to. My first choice for “The Ticket” would be GINGRICH / DeMINT
That was the general attitude here toward McCain IIRC. Then he picked a conservative running mate and most of us went and pulled the lever for him (holding noses, of course).
I think Romney looks like a Ken doll.
Perfectly primped & sidestepping anything useful.
I laughed at his attempt to appear ‘the common man’ when he wore a plaid shirt & jeans to one appearance in Iowa. I’ll bet the price tag was still on those jeans & shirt!!!
Were both Rubio’s parents born in the USA? I thought they came from Cuba???
If not, he is not Natural Born & he is not eligible to be either Pres- VP or even Speaker of the house. No position where he could succeed into Oval Office.
Please, not this crap again. Rubio was and raised in the US therefore is eligible to serve as Pres.....end of story.