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Unions and Young People: A Winning Combination for 2012?
The Atlantic ^ | 11/10/11 | Killian

Posted on 11/10/2011 7:51:10 AM PST by pabianice

The successful effort to roll back anti-union legislation in Ohio points to a possible future for the Occupy Wall Street movement

In the wake of a significant electoral victory in Ohio Tuesday, unions and their supporters are energized and eager to flex their newly honed political muscles. But the path to greater electoral clout in 2012 could lie in a partnership with young voters and followers of the Occupy movement.

It may seem like an odd pairing: Grizzled and battle-scarred union members, many of whom have voted Republican in the past and are more socially conservative, and free-spirited Millennials more comfortable texting than organizing.

But the two groups have a lot in common, chiefly concerns about their own economic futures and income inequality in this country, which are also the central themes of the Occupy movement.

"The basic message that Occupy Wall Street has -- that people are fed up with the top one percent getting everything -- it resonates with union members and young people," says AFL-CIO Political Director, Mike Podhorzer, in an interview from Ohio on election night...

Young people between the ages of 18-24 have unemployment rates above 17 percent -- among the highest levels of unemployment of any demographic group in the country...

But what if labor unions and young people joined together on issues beyond repealing Senate Bill 5, the law to restrict union rights in Ohio? Such an alliance has the potential to create a powerful political force. Unions have the experience, organization, money and political know how. Young people have the numbers and the passion.

"The primary goal of unions is to create good paying jobs and that's something that young people can't find these days," says Podhorzer.

(Excerpt) Read more at theatlantic.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: bho2012; occupy; radicalleft; unionvote
Frankly, I didn't see this coming. The Rancid Media has convinced the surly, violent Gen Ys to blame the Republicans for Obama's failures.

We will lose -- again -- unless we can find some way to finance long-term conservative counter-demonstrations. One Tea Party rally is ignored by the Rancid Media as if it never happened or was a Nazi Party event. If we do not take the communications initiative, we are headed for an Obama reelection and fatal damage to the USA. Think 5th century Rome.

1 posted on 11/10/2011 7:51:14 AM PST by pabianice
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To: pabianice
Sure, These unwashed, now homeless vagabonds will turn the Obama tide. I doubt it.

What the election in Ohio showed was that $30 million in union spending on one issue in a purple state can enthuse 600K union members to drag themselves and their spouses to the polls. Many who vote strictly Republican voted against Issue five because they like their cushy jobs and pension benefits. They will rue the day. Several cities have already laid off teachers and will be restructuring safety forces, INCLUDIG <ASSIVE FIRINGS! What thety neglect to say about the OH election is that Issue 3 won bigger than issue 2 losrt. It makes Ohio exempt from Obamacare legislation. A symbolic but powwerful message to the Statist Feds.

Obama is DONE. He can not garner more than 40% of the populace to approve of him less tan one year prior to elections. He would lose to my Grandmother and she has been dead for twenty years.

2 posted on 11/10/2011 7:59:41 AM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: pabianice
The one ironic thing I saw in the Ohio elections was that the Union won one ballot issue and then Obamacare lost on the other.

This tells me either Unions workers went and only voted on one issue or they voted Yes to keep their power in Ohio and No to wanting to have to pay for Obamacare.

3 posted on 11/10/2011 8:02:03 AM PST by not2worry
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"Unions and Young People: A Winning Whining Combination for 2012?"

There...I fixed it.

4 posted on 11/10/2011 8:09:35 AM PST by moovova (Report my sarcastic, fear-mongering, hate-filled lies to www.AttackWatch.com by clicking HERE.)
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To: Jim from C-Town
So Ohio will become the next California... without the illegal immigrants. Just parasitic Unions goons sucking the states taxpayers dry....
5 posted on 11/10/2011 8:10:43 AM PST by RedMonqey (A politician's integrity is usually only as strong as his poll numbers.)
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The libs are reading the wrong results into the Issue 2 results and they will come to regret it. Issue 2, had it been handled wisely, would have won right along with the vote to opt out of Obamacare.
The same people who voted to repeal SB5 also voted “No” on their school tax levies, thereby assuring layoffs.
In one local example, the service workers of the Xenia,OH school system were scheduled to go on strike today, having rejected what the school board told them was their best offer. Xenia had a school levy on the ballot on Tuesday.
The levy failed and this morning the union called OFF the strike. They had to; the money they demanded is not there and they know it.


6 posted on 11/10/2011 8:20:21 AM PST by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: Jim from C-Town
Sure, These unwashed, now homeless vagabonds will turn the Obama tide. I doubt it.

So do I. Besides, if you are unemployed, is it actually any better to be unemployed and in a union?

The danger is not from the unwashed vagrants but from the slick talking politicians in three-piece suits who will pick up and repeat their proposals for mortgage cram-downs, regulation of bank fees and forgiving student loans.

A whole lot of "independents" out there open to those ideas in trying times.

7 posted on 11/10/2011 8:24:11 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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Actually my belief is that OWS and the unions are one and the same. The AFL-CIO decided to hijack them when the very first demonstration was about to fail. I think they are being run out of Richard Trumka’s basement, truth be known.


8 posted on 11/10/2011 8:26:37 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: not2worry

The problem with SB5 and Issue 2 in Ohio was the inclusion of safety forces in the deal. Also, the propaganda campaign before the election (union financed, of course) was enormous and went largely unanswered. We can only hope that the D’s and their army of union thugs misread the result and flatter themselves to think it’s a positive sign for Obama. The alternatives to this defeated legislation are A) increased State taxes or B) public sector layoffs. “A” won’t fly and I doubt “B” will help rather than hurt Obama next year. But let them think so and see what it buys them a year from now.


9 posted on 11/10/2011 8:42:37 AM PST by katana (Just my opinions)
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I guess this is all fine and good but, how is going to pay all the bills that this group will rack up


10 posted on 11/10/2011 8:46:57 AM PST by woodenickel
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To: pabianice
"The primary goal of unions is to create good paying jobs and that's something that young people can't find these days,"

Ironic, because the layoffs to come will be mostly young, union, public sector employees, thanks to union seniority rules. Of course, they know that - it's the height of cynicism to pretend otherwise.

Every Lefty media outlet is misreading the results of the Issue 2 vote - Ohio did not swing from a complete GOP sweep last November to a repudiation of those policies less than a year later. Senate Bill 5 was flawed, and there was a widespread feeling that it went too far, too fast. To top it off, the union forces spent at least $35,000,000 to defeat it; a few more "victories" like that one, and they'll be completely broke.

The essential reforms in Senate Bill 5 will be taken up, individually, passed, and will become lasw, before next November. If Barry and the Ohio Democrat Party see Tuesday's results as a springboard, watch how well they do when the results (layoffs and higher taxes) are all they have left to campaign on. In my part of Ohio, nearly every tax levy increase (and even some renewals) failed at the same time that Senate Bill 5 was being repealed.

11 posted on 11/10/2011 8:53:05 AM PST by TonyInOhio ( Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life)
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"The primary goal of unions is to create good paying jobs and that's something that young people can't find these days,"

Ironic, because the layoffs to come will be mostly young, union, public sector employees, thanks to union seniority rules. Of course, they know that - it's the height of cynicism to pretend otherwise.

Every Lefty media outlet is misreading the results of the Issue 2 vote - Ohio did not swing from a complete GOP sweep last November to a repudiation of those policies less than a year later. Senate Bill 5 was flawed, and there was a widespread feeling that it went too far, too fast. To top it off, the union forces spent at least $35,000,000 to defeat it; a few more "victories" like that one, and they'll be completely broke.

The essential reforms in Senate Bill 5 will be taken up, individually, passed, and will become law, before next November. If Barry and the Ohio Democrat Party see Tuesday's results as a springboard, watch how well they do when the results (layoffs and higher taxes) are all they have left to campaign on. In my part of Ohio, nearly every tax levy increase (and even some renewals) failed at the same time that Senate Bill 5 was being repealed.

12 posted on 11/10/2011 8:53:13 AM PST by TonyInOhio ( Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life)
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To: not2worry

This tells me either Unions workers went and only voted on one issue or they voted Yes to keep their power in Ohio and No to wanting to have to pay for Obamacare.”””

Bingo!!

Between now & Dec 31, how many union workers are going to be laid off in Ohio?

The Governor cannot print money—not even the unions can do that.

I predict that before new Year’s, layoffs will be legendary in Ohio.


13 posted on 11/10/2011 9:54:51 AM PST by ridesthemiles
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