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New Jerry Sandusky Rumor Threatens To Make Penn State Scandal Much Worse
SBNation.com ^ | Nov. 10,. 2011 | Jason Kirk

Posted on 11/10/2011 8:31:48 AM PST by Colofornian

Former Penn State coach Jerry Sandusky has been charged with sexually abusing eight children, with something like a dozen more also claiming they were victimized. That's horrible. Powerful PSU figures appear to have attempted to cover up what they knew. That makes it even worse.

But if one rumor turns out to be true, this may become a story too awful to compare to any other.

There's been nothing reported by an investigative journalist or law enforcement official so far, but a handful of media members are talking about investigations into whether Sandusky may have shared some of his victims with other adult males.

From two days ago, here's Dan Bernstein of CBS Chicago:

@dan_bernstein FYI: names are being x-checked w/Sandusky's Second Mile, and there are other older adult men with "curious" relationships. Only the start.

Thursday morning, Mark Madden, a Pittsburgh radio host who wrote a story seven months ago envisioning Sandusky's downfall, went on WEEI's Dennis & Callahan Morning Show to discuss the scandal. At the 7:15 mark here, he's asked about the "next shoe to drop." Here are his remarks:

I can give you a rumor, and I can give you something I think might happen. I hear there's a rumor that there will be a more shocking development from the Second Mile foundation. And, hold on to your stomachs because this is gross, I'll use the only language that I can, that Jerry Sandusky and Second Mile were pimping out young boys to donors. This is being investigated by two prominent columnists as I speak.

Madden also speculates it'll be revealed that Sandusky was told to retire as part of a cover-up.

CBS Sports' Gregg Doyel tweeted the following later in the morning, appearing to cite a source besides Madden:

@greggdoyelcbs I'm told Penn's atty general has this sick Sandusky rumor on the radar. Warning, awful read http://t.co/Wy4uiuiD

We can hope none of this is true, but multiple outlets are saying it's being investigated. If it is, let's then hope investigators are able to find it never happened.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; pederast; pederastagenda; pederasty; pedophilestate; pedophilia; pedstate; pennstate; pervstate; rumor; sandusky; secondmile
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Another thread on this: Jerry Sandusky Rumored to Have Been 'Pimping Out Young Boys to Rich Donors,' Says Mark Madden

This article provides the link to WEEI...

From this article: Madden also speculates it'll be revealed that Sandusky was told to retire as part of a cover-up.

Yes...The timeline too perfect. Why would Sandusky "retire" at age 55 as THE top defensive coach in the nation? He could have gone anywhere.

And this Penn State 1998 "deal" -- you go away and we'll keep quiet about these '98 abuses -- then was the likely "bleedover" into 2002. They couldn't expose Sandusky because they all had the mutual "goods" on each other...

It became an ever-evolving "conspiracy" of silence.

For Scoutmaster's thread on the April Mark Madden piece, see: Madden: Sandusky a State Secret (Penn State Scandal)

1 posted on 11/10/2011 8:31:59 AM PST by Colofornian
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To: Scoutmaster

Ping to mention in post #1


2 posted on 11/10/2011 8:32:50 AM PST by Colofornian (The Ped State KNitKinsey Lionizers: The campus which most now love to loathe!)
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To: Colofornian
If any of these people at PSU knew that a molestation occured and did not report it to police, they should be charged and jailed for conspiracy to commit child rape.

This is freakin horrible.

3 posted on 11/10/2011 8:36:16 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: Colofornian

i hope list of rich donors will be revealed.


4 posted on 11/10/2011 8:36:35 AM PST by gussiefinknottle (woof!woof!woof!)
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To: Colofornian

marking for later...


5 posted on 11/10/2011 8:37:25 AM PST by FreedomProtector
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To: Colofornian

Pimping out boys to donors? Just TSB (Typical Sodomite Behavior). A coverup? What else would anyone expect liberal university degenerates to do?

Sandusky and friends’ behavior is NOT the exception for sodomites. The sodomite lifestyle cannot be tolerated.


6 posted on 11/10/2011 8:38:26 AM PST by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: Colofornian

they just asked that question at Tom Bradley’s (new PSU coach) timeline...he said there was a package offered to sanducky...as far as the timeline- sandusky was told he was not going to replace Paterno and was evidently pretty pissed about it...


7 posted on 11/10/2011 8:38:37 AM PST by God luvs America (63.5million pay no federal income tax then vote demoKrat)
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To: Colofornian

Students rioting in support of Paterno. The new head coach on tv now drooling all over Paterno, now this. If this turns out to be true, the school should be bulldozed into the ground. It will never, ever, recover from this and will be forever known as Ped State.


8 posted on 11/10/2011 8:39:02 AM PST by chessplayer
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To: servantboy777

my question is how many members of the board of trustees, now making decisions, knew about this...


9 posted on 11/10/2011 8:39:32 AM PST by God luvs America (63.5million pay no federal income tax then vote demoKrat)
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To: Colofornian
We have become 1st century Greece.

I'm not suggesting this as a modern approach, but considering the wreckage in these boys' lives, doesn't the OT approach to "rape" (death penalty) have a little appeal as a punishment for these depraved guys?
10 posted on 11/10/2011 8:39:40 AM PST by Acrobat (Remind me again why I moved from Washington to California?)
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To: Colofornian

Now, just remember. This has NOTHING to do with homosexuality. (SARCASM)


11 posted on 11/10/2011 8:40:42 AM PST by ZULU (Anybody but Romney)
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To: ZULU

just remember not EVERY sodomite boy scout troop leader will molest boys!


12 posted on 11/10/2011 8:42:19 AM PST by 2nd Amendment
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To: servantboy777

Before the Salem media trials begin, let us apply some reason.

It was not PennState, it was certain persons employed by the U who did not do their jobs or perform their proper duties as citizens. Find out who they are and act accordingly. The institution should not suffer; just the wrongdoers.

I bet the Obambutts are dancing happy that someone has taken the economy off the front pages.


13 posted on 11/10/2011 8:42:31 AM PST by Loud Mime (It's not "OCCUPY" movements - it's "COMMUNIZE" movements)
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To: Colofornian

As a Pennsylvania citizen & taxpayer, I want names. Names of ALL “donors” who utilized this child prostitution ring and names of ALL involved in a coverup.

I hope Corbett & his AG bury these sick bastards. I mean it.


14 posted on 11/10/2011 8:43:11 AM PST by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: gussiefinknottle

A list of rich DEMOCRAT donors with household names.


15 posted on 11/10/2011 8:43:54 AM PST by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: servantboy777

Yes...all of those who did not speak up are guilty of a crime. When decent people are cowardly, evil flourishes! Always has...speak up people, regardless of how hard or shaky you are!...anyone reading this...


16 posted on 11/10/2011 8:43:58 AM PST by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo with laughter")
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To: Loud Mime

It was not Penn State?? Are you kidding? It appears the upper echelons of the University admin were fully complicit in a cover-up. How can you say such a thing??


17 posted on 11/10/2011 8:45:02 AM PST by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: Colofornian

My suspicion is that there was a pedophile ring.


18 posted on 11/10/2011 8:45:05 AM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (A MUST WATCH: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KeOLurcQaqI)
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To: surroundedbyblue

I hope Corbett & his AG bury these sick bastards. I mean it.

I hope they bury them literally as well as figuratively. Sick SOBs the lot of them.


19 posted on 11/10/2011 8:45:05 AM PST by ZULU (Anybody but Romney)
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To: Colofornian

If what Madden believes is true and boys were pimped out to boosters then PSU football will be playing on a level in the near future that makes the Patriot League look like the SEC.


20 posted on 11/10/2011 8:45:38 AM PST by xkaydet65 (IACTA ALEA EST!!!')
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To: Colofornian

But if one rumor turns out to be true, this may become a story too awful to compare to any other.

There’s been nothing reported by an investigative journalist or law enforcement official so far, but a handful of media members are talking about investigations into whether Sandusky may have shared some of his victims with other adult males.

Which I believe is why the DA in 1998 was doing it with him and why after listening to a tape where he confessed and said he was sorry to the mother admitting it, that DA refused to charge him and, disappeared from the country three days later.


21 posted on 11/10/2011 8:45:59 AM PST by edcoil (I grew up in a country that was honest, I am growing old in a country that is not. I am sorry.)
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To: Colofornian

I just watched the presser with the PSU interim coach..several times the guy ducked questions..said the university told him not to comment..he was asked what he knew, and when he knew it..but it seems to me that he should have been asked directly, did you know or suspect anything..and if he’s clean, he should come out and say that he knew or suspected nothing..and if he can’t say that..then he shouldn’t be coaching..


22 posted on 11/10/2011 8:46:14 AM PST by ken5050 (Cain/Gingrich 2012!!! because sharing a couch with Pelosi is NOT the same as sharing a bed with her)
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To: xkaydet65

If what Madden believes is true, then there should be no Penn State football for at least five years.


23 posted on 11/10/2011 8:46:49 AM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: gussiefinknottle
i hope list of rich donors will be revealed.

Two predictions:

1) The list is 98% influential Democrats.

2) When it breaks, the press will:

a) focus on the two Republicans

b) attack the Republicans for "homophobia"

The Press is the ProblemTM

NO cheers, unfortunately.

24 posted on 11/10/2011 8:47:09 AM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Colofornian

I bet Sandusky off’s himself. And if he does, no tears will be shed for him and probably a bunch of other perps will breath a sigh of relief.


25 posted on 11/10/2011 8:47:16 AM PST by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: Colofornian
New Penn State logo...


26 posted on 11/10/2011 8:47:41 AM PST by Constitution Day
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To: ken5050

I don’t think Saturday’s game is going to happen. I think there is going to be a riot in the stadium, and a potential safety concern for fans and players alike.


27 posted on 11/10/2011 8:48:08 AM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: Colofornian

Thousands upon thousands of comments at ESPN, and trying to find the word ‘homosexual’ is like trying to find a needle in a haystack...


28 posted on 11/10/2011 8:48:16 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: God luvs America

All of ‘em.


29 posted on 11/10/2011 8:48:45 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Acrobat

A hundred years ago, Sandusky would have been found hanging by his neck from a lamp post the following morning.


30 posted on 11/10/2011 8:48:52 AM PST by dainbramaged (I lost my mantra around 1969.)
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
I bet Sandusky off’s himself. And if he does, no tears will be shed for him and probably a bunch of other perps will breath a sigh of relief.

No, but at least he could redeem himself a tiny bit, if he names names of who was involved, before he offed himself.

31 posted on 11/10/2011 8:49:19 AM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: ZULU

It does only in the sense that pederasty involves molesting boys

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pederasty


32 posted on 11/10/2011 8:50:35 AM PST by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Loud Mime

if an INSTITUTION fails to act to stop behavior such as this, the INSTITUTION deserves to suffer the consequences. keeping this secret for this long indicates a systemic problem, derived from protecting its athletic program. It’s lamentable that PSU grads and and students have to be tarred with this brush, but the University clearly is culpable here.


33 posted on 11/10/2011 8:51:12 AM PST by xsmommy
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To: Colofornian
I knew nothing about Jerry Sandusky before this story broke. Is Sandusky someone who seemed gay?
34 posted on 11/10/2011 8:51:20 AM PST by utahagen
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To: gussiefinknottle

hopefully the LEOs are looking up lists of prominent donors who are also registered sex offenders.


35 posted on 11/10/2011 8:51:20 AM PST by WOBBLY BOB (See ya later, debt inflator ! Gone in 4 (2012))
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To: utahagen

Sandusky was married, and I think still is.


36 posted on 11/10/2011 8:52:41 AM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: God luvs America

“my question is how many members of the board of trustees, now making decisions, knew about this...”

I have been posting and updating this list over the days.

People we know that knew Sandusky raped little boys.

President Spanier
AD Curley
VP Schultz
PSU Attorney Wendell Courtney
Second Mile Attorney Wendell Courtney
University Police (Detective Ronald Shreffler)
State College Police (Detective Ralph Ralston)
Department of Welfare (Investigator Jerry Lauro)
Child Services
County DA Gricar
County Prosecutors
Coach McQueary
Coach Paterno
Various elementary and high school officials
Second Mile officials
Joe Paterno’s staff including down to the janitors

Still to be determined:

Media
NCAA Coaches (Nobody wanted him when he retired)
Board of Trustees


37 posted on 11/10/2011 8:52:53 AM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: gussiefinknottle
Or those that are buying his $60 leatherbound book with the sick title of Touched.
38 posted on 11/10/2011 8:53:27 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: utahagen
Is Sandusky someone who seemed gay?

No. In fact, his defenses were the "stud" teams. He made Penn State "Linebacker U."

39 posted on 11/10/2011 8:53:33 AM PST by Colofornian (The Ped State KNitKinsey Lionizers: The campus which most now love to loathe!)
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To: utahagen
Is Sandusky someone who seemed gay?

LOTS of suspicious activities with young boys. Those that didn't know for sure were certainly suspicious.

40 posted on 11/10/2011 8:55:01 AM PST by NewinTexsas
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To: dfwgator; utahagen
Sandusky was married, and I think still is.

It makes me wonder how many of his six adopted children were male...and if any of them have been victimized.

A condition of his release on bail is that he cannot see his grandchildren.

41 posted on 11/10/2011 8:55:01 AM PST by Colofornian (The Ped State KNitKinsey Lionizers: The campus which most now love to loathe!)
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To: edcoil
But if one rumor turns out to be true, this may become a story too awful to compare to any other.

And no sex ring, could last for long without some bodies being buried somewhere.

42 posted on 11/10/2011 8:55:28 AM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: Colofornian

It wouldn’t surprise me if dead bodies turn up on Mount Nittany. Ray Gricar:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/09/sports/ncaafootball/questions-on-sandusky-wrapped-in-2005-gricar-mystery.html


43 posted on 11/10/2011 8:55:41 AM PST by NotSoModerate
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To: God luvs America

“my question is how many members of the board of trustees, now making decisions, knew about this...”

I’ve gone way beyond that at this point. MY question is, how many of THEM were “involved” with The Second Mile themselves?!


44 posted on 11/10/2011 8:55:47 AM PST by battletank
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
He should be taken in to protective custody and put on a suicide watch. If he offs himself there will be many un answered questions, and if this is true he has a big target on his forehead, some one will want him silenced.
45 posted on 11/10/2011 8:56:02 AM PST by enraged
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To: Colofornian

Can you please enlighten me and tell me what happened to cause this story to leak/ become known in the first place? These charges stem from 2002, over 9 years ago. Why are they only now coming to light?


46 posted on 11/10/2011 8:56:38 AM PST by MissEdie (America went to the polls on 11-4-08 and all we got was a socialist thug and a dottering old fool.)
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To: Colofornian

Joe Paterno: Scapegoat.


47 posted on 11/10/2011 8:56:47 AM PST by getarope (I have come here to chew bubble gum and kick ass, and I am all out of bubble gum!)
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To: Colofornian
It makes me wonder how many of his six adopted children were male...and if any of them have been victimized.

I wonder if Jerry knew Michael Jackson, that had a lot in common.

48 posted on 11/10/2011 8:57:27 AM PST by dfwgator (I stand with Herman Cain.)
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To: WOBBLY BOB

Sandusky has six adopted children.


49 posted on 11/10/2011 8:57:36 AM PST by mmanager
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To: Colofornian

Have you seen this:
In 2005, divers searched the Susquehanna River in Lewisburg, Pa., for Ray Gricar, who was a Centre County prosecutor.
The answer is unknowable because of an unsolved mystery: What happened to Ray Gricar, the Centre County, Pa., district attorney?
Gricar went missing in April 2005. The murky circumstances surrounding his disappearance — an abandoned car, a laptop recovered months later in a river without a hard drive, his body was never found — have spawned Web sites, television programs and conspiracy theories. More than six years later, the police still receive tips and reports of sightings. The police in central Pennsylvania continue to investigate even though Gricar’s daughter, Lara, successfully petitioned in July to have her father declared legally dead so the family could find some closure and begin dividing his estate.
Yet as the Sandusky investigation moves forward, questions will be asked anew about why Gricar did not pursue charges against him 13 years ago. A small but strident minority believes Gricar did not want to tackle a case that involved a hometown icon. Others who knew and worked with Gricar say he was a meticulous, independent and tough-minded prosecutor who was unbowed by Penn State, its football program and political pressure in general.
“No one got a bye with Ray,” said Anthony De Boef, who worked as an assistant district attorney under Gricar for five years. “He didn’t care who you were; he had a job to do.”
De Boef said Gricar did not share any information with him about the case in 1998, which involved Sandusky allegedly showering with an 11-year-old boy. Gricar, he said, reviewed the police reports in private including, presumably, notes or recordings of two conversations that the police heard between Sandusky and the boy’s mother. But Gricar had a reputation for thoroughness, and if he thought he had enough to charge Sandusky, he would have, De Boef and other lawyers said.
Still, the circumstances surrounding Gricar’s disappearance prompt many questions.
On April 15, 2005, Gricar, then 59, took the day off. At about 11:30 a.m., he called his girlfriend, Patricia Fornicola, to say he was taking a drive on Route 192. About 12 hours later, she reported him missing.
The next day, Gricar’s Mini Cooper was found in a parking lot in Lewisburg, about 50 miles from his home in Bellefonte. Gricar’s cellphone was in the car, but not his laptop, wallet or keys, which were never recovered. Months later, the laptop was found in the Susquehanna River without its hard drive, which was discovered later. It was too damaged to yield any information. On the fourth anniversary of his disappearance, investigators revealed that a search of his home computer yielded a history of Internet searches for phrases like “how to wreck a hard drive,” according to a report at the time in The Centre Daily Times.
When Gricar disappeared helicopters, dive teams and patrol cars were deployed, and the F.B.I. was brought in. Reports of Gricar turning up in Illinois, Ohio, Michigan, Maryland and other states proved to be dead ends.
So what happened? Friends and colleagues say Gricar was not the type to walk away. His bank accounts were not touched after he disappeared, he had no other sources of income and he had no major debts, said Robert Buehner Jr., a friend and the district attorney in Montour County. Though divorced twice, he seemed happy with his girlfriend and close with his daughter. Gricar had already announced that he was retiring at the end of his term.
“He was absolutely looking forward to his future,” Buehner said.
If Gricar committed suicide, Buehner added, he would have wanted the body to be found. Foul play is the next possible conclusion. By the nature of their jobs prosecuting criminals, district attorneys end up having many enemies. But no credible suspects have emerged.
“I don’t think you’ll find too many district attorneys who disappear,” said Ken Mains, a detective who works on cold cases in Lycoming County. “D. B. Cooper, Amelia Earhart, Jimmy Hoffa, until a body is found, there are going to be conspiracy theories.”


50 posted on 11/10/2011 8:58:03 AM PST by auto power
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