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DA Who Never Charged Sandusky Has Been Missing Since 2005
NBCPhiladelphia ^ | 11/10/11 | By Teresa Masterson

Posted on 11/10/2011 10:06:03 AM PST by ColdOne

It is strange that Centre County District Attorney Ray Gricar never prosecuted Jerry Sandusky on child-rape charges 13 years ago, some speculate, because Gricar was known for being fiercely independent and hard on crime.

But it is even stranger that we cannot ask Gricar why Sandusky was not put behind bars because the tough-as-nails district attorney disappeared in 2005. And though he was declared dead July of this year, his body has never been found.

"People ask why Ray did not prosecute, and I have no problem saying, because he clearly felt he didn't have a case for a 'successful' prosecution," Tony Gricar, Ray Gricar’s nephew , told The Patriot-News.

"... One thing I can say is that Ray was beholden to no one, was not a politician."

This district attorney who had “a bitter taste in his mouth for the [Penn State] program, and its coach,” according to his nephew, and yet never prosecuted Sandusky, disappeared on April 15, 2005 after telling his girlfriend that he was going on a drive.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: gricar; jerrysandusky; pennstate; raygricar; sandusky
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1 posted on 11/10/2011 10:06:04 AM PST by ColdOne
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To: ColdOne

He’s (been declared) dead, Jim.

Apologies to Dr. McCoy.


2 posted on 11/10/2011 10:07:53 AM PST by hotshu (Redistribution of wealth by the government is nothing but theft under the color of law.)
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To: ColdOne

He was part of the ring perhaps? Was going to out the members so they killed him. Or suicide over guilt.

Case keeps getting larger.

Hope this exposes similar rings in other high places.


3 posted on 11/10/2011 10:08:52 AM PST by TigerClaws
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To: TigerClaws

He was absolutely part of the ring. Trying to get rid of the hard drive and all.

Likely suicide. He knew he couldn’t prosecute or they would expose him. Nowhere to turn.


4 posted on 11/10/2011 10:10:24 AM PST by ConservativeDude
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To: ColdOne

Did his foot wash up on a beach in Canada?


5 posted on 11/10/2011 10:11:34 AM PST by Captain PJ
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To: ColdOne

Whacked.

Joe-Pa is like the Godfather.


6 posted on 11/10/2011 10:11:45 AM PST by Retired Greyhound (.)
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To: ColdOne
The investigation took place in 1997-98, he dropped the case, but I would guess he was about to start over when one of the coaching staff disappeared him.
7 posted on 11/10/2011 10:12:34 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: ColdOne

Hit job by PSU backers?


8 posted on 11/10/2011 10:13:46 AM PST by crosshairs (Liberalism is to truth, what east is to west.)
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To: TigerClaws

It sure is beginning to sound like that sex pervert ring some years ago in Belgium, where the guy kept young girls locked in his basement. It turned out that a lot of VIPs were involved in it, and it was basically stuffed back into the cellar darkness except for a few sacrificial goats.

The latest headline on Drudge leads to an article citing “rumors” that Sandusky was pimping out young boys to rich guys willing to pay for them.

More coming?


9 posted on 11/10/2011 10:13:56 AM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius.)
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To: Captain PJ

lol


10 posted on 11/10/2011 10:14:29 AM PST by a real Sheila (Obama = Clymer!)
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To: ColdOne

Look in Thailand.


11 posted on 11/10/2011 10:14:43 AM PST by Paine in the Neck (Where's he getting these ideas? He's not smart enough to be that stupid all by himself.)
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To: TigerClaws
He was part of the ring perhaps? Was going to out the members so they killed him. Or suicide over guilt.

Case keeps getting larger.

Do you have any evidence to link the missing DA to this case? The reality is that DA's are involved in many cases in their tenures and choose not top prosecute a great many of them. A case like the 1998 Sandusky incident is not unusual for DA's.

12 posted on 11/10/2011 10:16:33 AM PST by NRG1973
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To: Cicero

Donors give millions get top pick of the litter of boys he cultivated over the years in his program everyone else gets bribed with money or jobs or honors to keep quiet. It could have happened.

Even if it didn’t the fact that these questions can be raised and will be raised for years pose a serious problem for this program.


13 posted on 11/10/2011 10:17:39 AM PST by Eyes Unclouded ("The word bipartisan means some larger-than-usual deception is being carried out." -George Carlin)
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To: ColdOne

“because he clearly felt he didn’t have a case for a ‘successful’ prosecution,” Tony Gricar, Ray Gricar’s nephew , told The Patriot-News.”

BULLSHIT! He had a recorded admission FGS! I’ll add Tony Gricar to the list of people covering up for all of this!


14 posted on 11/10/2011 10:18:17 AM PST by battletank
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To: Captain PJ

LOL. That is so weird.


15 posted on 11/10/2011 10:20:52 AM PST by teenyelliott (Obama warned if he loses the election it could herald a new, painful era of self-reliance)
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To: battletank
BULLSHIT! He had a recorded admission FGS! I’ll add Tony Gricar to the list of people covering up for all of this!

What sort of evidence do you have to link Gricar to this case? Without evidence you are imagining things.

Gricar, as a district attorney, was involved with far more serious cases than the 1998 Sandusky case.

16 posted on 11/10/2011 10:21:12 AM PST by NRG1973
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To: battletank

Don’t forget Gricar’s brother committed suicide in a similar looking place before Gricar disappeared.


17 posted on 11/10/2011 10:21:19 AM PST by Hattie
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To: NRG1973

Selective enforcement is the road to despotism.


18 posted on 11/10/2011 10:21:34 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: ConservativeDude

Do you enjoy talking out your a**? You have no clue what this guy was like, and yet you’ve instantly linked him to a gay pedophilia ring with zero evidence. Must be nice being able to spew unfounded accusations behind an anonymous keyboard.


19 posted on 11/10/2011 10:21:42 AM PST by bigdaddy45
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To: Paladin2
Selective enforcement is the road to despotism.

What do you mean by that? District Attorneys commonly choose not to prosecute. Its possible that he didn't think he could win the case in court.

20 posted on 11/10/2011 10:24:32 AM PST by NRG1973
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To: ColdOne

His body may be found under the 50-yard line in Beaver Stadium.


21 posted on 11/10/2011 10:24:36 AM PST by bunkerhill7
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To: NRG1973

Nothing is more serious than a ring of pedophiles operating out of a major University, and being supported by the head coach. In this town in this state NOTHING could have been more important.


22 posted on 11/10/2011 10:25:43 AM PST by DManA
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To: TigerClaws

Reminds me of the Franklin Cover-up in Nebraska in Omaho....Boys were procured for pederasts...some high in CIA in 80’s


23 posted on 11/10/2011 10:27:19 AM PST by savagesusie
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To: Cicero
The fact that we are even having this discussion in a country that allows an organization like NAMBLA to exist points to a larger problem, I think. These kinds of people think they can get away with this behavior because they can and do.

All pedophiles should be shot in the gut and left in the woods.

24 posted on 11/10/2011 10:27:40 AM PST by teenyelliott (Obama warned if he loses the election it could herald a new, painful era of self-reliance)
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To: DManA
Nothing is more serious than a ring of pedophiles operating out of a major University, and being supported by the head coach. In this town in this state NOTHING could have been more important.

And what has that got to do with Ray Gricar? Do you have any evidence linking him to the case?

25 posted on 11/10/2011 10:28:45 AM PST by NRG1973
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To: bunkerhill7

More likely under the shower floor in the new locker rooms.


26 posted on 11/10/2011 10:28:55 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: NRG1973
District Attorneys commonly choose not to prosecute. Its possible that he didn't think he could win the case in court.

True. But Sandusky has now been charged with molesting the boy in 1998 using the same evidence.

27 posted on 11/10/2011 10:30:32 AM PST by Erik Latranyi
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To: Paladin2
Selective enforcement is the road to despotism.

Hypothetical scenario: Two politicians do the same illegal act. One is an R, the other a D. The D is allowed to resign, that is considered punishment enough and the matter is dropped (Jim McGreevy, Elliott Spitzer, Bob Torricelli, etc). The R is doing hard time.

What was that about selective enforcement?

28 posted on 11/10/2011 10:33:16 AM PST by pepsi_junkie (Who is John Galt?)
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To: NRG1973

No sir. You don’t get to ask me a question until you respond to my response to your assertion that the DA “was involved with far more serious cases than the 1998 Sandusky case”.

You tell us what could be more important than a pedophile ring operating in the shower room of Penn State for at least a decade?


29 posted on 11/10/2011 10:33:33 AM PST by DManA
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To: pepsi_junkie

TOTUS Zer0 likely has a wide stance.


30 posted on 11/10/2011 10:35:01 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Erik Latranyi
District Attorneys commonly choose not to prosecute. Its possible that he didn't think he could win the case in court.

True. But Sandusky has now been charged with molesting the boy in 1998 using the same evidence.

Sandusky has been charged because of a whole lot more evidence than what was available to Gricar in 1998. I'm not sure that the current DA would be involved with this case based on the 1998 evidence if it weren't for the additional evidence acquired since 1998.

31 posted on 11/10/2011 10:35:43 AM PST by NRG1973
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To: ColdOne

32 posted on 11/10/2011 10:36:57 AM PST by AdamBomb
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To: NRG1973
"What do you mean by that?"

Did you have trouble with reading comprehension in school?

33 posted on 11/10/2011 10:37:58 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: Paine in the Neck
Thailand???
34 posted on 11/10/2011 10:37:59 AM PST by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: ColdOne

My theory:

Ray Gricar wanted to retire and travel the world. He had an adopted daughter in Washington State.

He gets the Sandusky case in 1998. He could prosecute, but someone or some group offers to pay him protection money for several years. Gricar puts that money into an offshore account.

Gricar announces he is going to retire and not run for re-election (county DAs are elected in Pennsy). If he just leaves, there is a chance that the bribery could be uncovered and he would lose his state pension, healthcare, etc.

If Gricar is declared dead, his daughter would inherit his pension and life insurance.

Gricar disappears, wipes his hard drive (account numbers for his offshore money) and sails into the sunset to live a nice life.

Now, someone helped Gricar get out of Lewisburg. I suspect one of his relatives from Slovenia (with which he had good relations and traveled there several times) flew into Canada, rented a car and drove down to Lewisburg. They traveled back to Canada (in 2005, you only needed a DL to cross the border).


35 posted on 11/10/2011 10:39:54 AM PST by Erik Latranyi
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To: NRG1973

I have his own words posted right here! RAY Gricar, the DA had an ADMISSION of guilt from Sandusky and refused to prosecute him. Ask yourself why. I know what I think. Now we’ve got his nephew, TONY Gricar saying he didn’t have enough evidence to prosecute! Again....BULLSHIT!


36 posted on 11/10/2011 10:40:33 AM PST by battletank
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To: Hardraade

New wrinkle in the Gricar case.


37 posted on 11/10/2011 10:40:42 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: TigerClaws

I haven’t been following this closely.....I didn’t know there was a ‘ring’. I thought it was Sandusky


38 posted on 11/10/2011 10:41:06 AM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: NRG1973

Then the police were derelict in not investigating this. It was happening in plain site in the public showers for crying out loud. People say it but were afraid to talk about it. I’m sure plenty of people would have been relieved to tell the police about it if they’d just done their duty and asked some questions.


39 posted on 11/10/2011 10:41:20 AM PST by DManA
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To: NRG1973

The DA had an ADMISSION of guilt from Sandusky. Gricar refused to prosecute. Now you ask yourself why.


40 posted on 11/10/2011 10:42:13 AM PST by battletank
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To: NRG1973; DManA

I read in another report that the hard disk to Gricar’s laptop was later found in a river in the area where he disappeared, but the data on it was unreadable.

Definitely sounds like foul play, unless he himself dumped the evidence he had collected and then disappeared for his own safety.

It’s certainly possible that there was some other case that might have been the reason for this, but since it seems that the Sandusky case is branching out further and further, it could be that he had reason to fear what he had found.


41 posted on 11/10/2011 10:43:13 AM PST by livius
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To: ColdOne

The other thing possible is Gricar stumbled onto something big and realized Sandusky was only one player of many, some important and powerful. Important and powerful enough to disappear him. He may have held off on Sandusky to net the bigger prize.

Then again maybe not, but I’m not ruling anything in or out.


42 posted on 11/10/2011 10:45:52 AM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: livius

Sandusky’s primary victims are the boys of course. But he also has fowled the waters of public trust in their institutions. ALL of them. The football program, the University, the police, the district attorney.

In the long run that might be the worst damage he caused.


43 posted on 11/10/2011 10:46:23 AM PST by DManA
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To: battletank

I think Sandusky was just the tip of the iceberg and Gricar was going for bigger fish. Very dangerous bigger fish.


44 posted on 11/10/2011 10:47:24 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: DManA
No sir. You don’t get to ask me a question until you respond to my response to your assertion that the DA “was involved with far more serious cases than the 1998 Sandusky case”.

You tell us what could be more important than a pedophile ring operating in the shower room of Penn State for at least a decade?

OK, if you go back to the grand jury report you will find that there was not enough evidence to conclude that a pedohile ring was operating out of PSU. What was found in the 1998 incident was one incident that Sandusky showered with a boy on the campus of PSU. It is understandable that the DA could conclude it as an isolated incident and could not be successfully prosecuted. DA's make that choice many times in rape cases if the victim does not want to pursue the case.

45 posted on 11/10/2011 10:47:28 AM PST by NRG1973
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To: Erik Latranyi

The fact that Gricar had been searching the internet for ways to wipe a hard drive and the fact the computer was found in the river later with no hard drive lends some substance to your thesis. I don’t think suicide is a viable option given where his car was found in Lewisburg and after that his trail goes stone cold.

Either he has fled or he was offed and the body disposed.


46 posted on 11/10/2011 10:48:24 AM PST by bereanway
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To: MestaMachine
I think Sandusky was just the tip of the iceberg and Gricar was going for bigger fish. Very dangerous bigger fish.

Any evidence to support that claim?

47 posted on 11/10/2011 10:48:42 AM PST by NRG1973
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To: bunkerhill7

Probably in an old coal mine.


48 posted on 11/10/2011 10:49:07 AM PST by Jonty30
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To: DManA

“Nothing is more serious than a ring of pedophiles operating out of a major University, and being supported by the head coach. In this town in this state NOTHING could have been more important.”

You are working under the misconception that our ‘criminal justice’ system is about protecting the public. Respectfully, sir, you are wrong.

The law racket is about damage control, to keep the herd docile and as a revenue stream. Principally though, its purpose is to provide an appearance of security and thus act as a general social sedative. There are individuals within this system who struggle to make it actually work, but the real inertia that moves it is to provide calm and damage control. Nothing more. If you want protection, look elsewhere.


49 posted on 11/10/2011 10:49:29 AM PST by Psalm 144 (Voodoo Republicans: Don't read their lips - watch their hands.)
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To: NRG1973

“What was found in the 1998 incident was one incident that Sandusky showered with a boy on the campus of PSU.”

NOT true. The child told everything. Sandusky was ON TAPE in a phone call from the child’s mother ADMITTING it and said he wished he was dead. Gricar HAD that evidence of admission.


50 posted on 11/10/2011 10:50:23 AM PST by battletank
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