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Fifth Cain woman says she’s not an ‘accuser’
The Washington Times ^ | 11/9/2011 | David Eldridge

Posted on 11/10/2011 11:04:21 AM PST by ferrgus

Donna Donella, one of the five women caught up in the charges of sexual harassment being leveled against Herman Cain, said Wednesday she is not an “accuser.”

“I take issue with being labeled in the media as 'Accuser No. 5,' ” she said in an interview with The Washington Times-affiliated “America's Morning News” radio program. “I want to make it very clear that Herman Cain never sexually harassed me, I’ve never accused Herman Cain of sexually harassing me. The only reason that I came forward is because I saw behavior, the one day that I met him … that was consistent with the pattern of his behavior described by his four actual accusers.”

“I can’t put a finger on it, but as most women will tell you, you kind of have a sense when men are on the up and up and when there are men who may not be. I had that feeling and so did my colleague, and that’s why she jumped in and said, ‘Oh, let’s all go to dinner.’ “

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TOPICS: Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cain; cainscandals; caintrain; donnadonella; election; elections; fraud; hermanator; hermancain; mediabias; obama; primary; republican; sexualharassment; smearcampaign; woman5
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So... the so-called 5th accuser is casting aspersions based on absolutely zero evidence.

That leaves...

One accuser who called her 13-year-old son to ask his advice on whether to go to the media -- and who's being paraded around by Gloria Allred in front of any news show that'll have her

One accuser whose biggest complaint was that Herman compared her height to that of his wife (and who tried to extract another settlement at the next job she went to after her settlement with the NRA)

One non-accuser who says nothing happened during her dinner with Mr. Cain

And two anonymous "accusers" from whom we don't have any specific accusations.

And all of it, interestingly, coming from Chicago. Hmmmmmm...

1 posted on 11/10/2011 11:04:21 AM PST by ferrgus
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To: ferrgus

But we need 9!!!


2 posted on 11/10/2011 11:06:13 AM PST by CainConservative
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To: ferrgus

WAIT a minute...!!!!!!!!! ‘Cain woman’??? WTF is THAT!!


3 posted on 11/10/2011 11:07:40 AM PST by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: ferrgus

These two statements are contradictory:

—Ms. Donella, who said she is not a Democrat and “not a part of any political machine,” said she had hoped to remain anonymous when she came forward with her story about her interaction with Mr. Cain. After her name was included in a news story on the Cain sexual harassment allegations, she decided to speak to “America’s Morning News” and also did a Wednesday morning interview on ABC.—

And this:

“I didn’t ask for 15 minutes of fame. I certainly didn’t want 15 minutes of fame like this...”

Based on the first quote, I can only respond to the second quote thusly, “The hell you didn’t.”


4 posted on 11/10/2011 11:08:14 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: ferrgus

Some men flirt. Sometimes we like it and sometimes we don’t. Grow up, little girls.


5 posted on 11/10/2011 11:09:14 AM PST by fullchroma
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To: ferrgus

I love it when a good liberal plan falls apart! Most delicious is it’s happening while everyone is still paying attention!

Cindie


6 posted on 11/10/2011 11:09:36 AM PST by gardencatz (I'm lucky enough to live, walk & breathe among heroes! I am the mother of a US Marine!)
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To: SMARTY

“WAIT a minute...!!!!!!!!! ‘Cain woman’??? WTF is THAT!!”

The freaks have been calling Cain a “black sexual predator” of “our blonde women” so he must OWN them now. LOL.


7 posted on 11/10/2011 11:10:14 AM PST by treetopsandroofs (Had FDR been GOP, there would have been no World Wars, just "The Great War" and "Roosevelt's Wars".)
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To: ferrgus

She is obviously confusing this with Mr. Cain’s little-known cameo appearance in the 1979 movie “Animal House”...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaJhLyDhsgc

/sarc


8 posted on 11/10/2011 11:10:16 AM PST by bigbob
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To: ferrgus
“I can’t put a finger on it, but as most women will tell you, you kind of have a sense when men are on the up and up and when there are men who may not be."

What a steaming pile! #5 seems to be affiliated with the Psychic Friends Network.

Next they will have a "Medium" saying she contacted the spirit world and was told Herman is a womanizer.
9 posted on 11/10/2011 11:10:30 AM PST by DJlaysitup
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To: ferrgus
And all of it, interestingly, coming from Chicago. Hmmmmmm...

perhaps someone should look into whose tax records Rahm has been reviewing.

And just why it seems that the Dems are blocking for Romney.

10 posted on 11/10/2011 11:10:45 AM PST by Cowman (How can the IRS seize property without a warrant if the 4th amendment still stands?)
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To: ferrgus

All true, but that is not how it is being presented by the MSM.

I was talking to others who have been only exposed to the ‘TV’s’ version of the incidents, and they have been blindly hypnotized to believe that

“they KNOW he did it”

but... they question why it is being brought up now. So at least there is some hope in Fairyland where the TV people live.


11 posted on 11/10/2011 11:11:58 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: ferrgus
I can’t put a finger on it, but as most women will tell you, you kind of have a sense when men are on the up and up and when there are men who may not be.

In other words, she had ZERO evidence he was hitting on her or anyone. It was just a VAGUE FEELING that she can't even put a finger on.

12 posted on 11/10/2011 11:12:02 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Politics ain't beanbag!)
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To: cuban leaf

Isn’t this the woman who had to pay for her own dinner including an expensive bottle of wine?


13 posted on 11/10/2011 11:13:28 AM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: ferrgus

Yes. In reality we have 2 accusers (not 5, 4, or 3), one of whom we are still waiting to hear the salacious details from, and both have “histories” to put it mildly.

Then there’s this Lunch Lady who used her womanly superpowers on a guy she just met knew to discern that he was an evil creep. In a strange twist, she wines and dines with him anyway.

Yeah right.


14 posted on 11/10/2011 11:13:37 AM PST by Yooper4Life (They all lie.)
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To: DJlaysitup

I bet the bitch has been married more than once and I am sure she has been rolled around the bed more than once by a lot more than one individual. I once had a woman that had been married five times tell me she was really good at judging people.


15 posted on 11/10/2011 11:15:39 AM PST by org.whodat (Just another heartless American, hated by "AMNESTY" Perry and his fellow demorats.)
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To: ferrgus

Whoa boy! They’re scared now. Cain’s got a real lawyer and there could actually be real consequences for this crap.


16 posted on 11/10/2011 11:15:57 AM PST by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: old curmudgeon

—Isn’t this the woman who had to pay for her own dinner including an expensive bottle of wine?—

Not exactly. We only know that Cain did not pay for it. We don’t know who did. But considering the event, it is naturally assumed that some company’s expense account covered it. It’s how it works.


17 posted on 11/10/2011 11:16:19 AM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: ferrgus

That woman is a sexist. She said he didn’t sexually harrass her, but I can tell the type. She may even be a racist.

All you men out there should be outraged and complain about this woman.


18 posted on 11/10/2011 11:16:52 AM PST by dforest
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To: ferrgus

When we were given sensitivity indoctrination, we were told that there was no difference between an accusation from the recipient of harassment and one from a person who was offended because he had overheard the harassment even though the intended hearer was not offended. That is, being offended was the important point.


19 posted on 11/10/2011 11:17:07 AM PST by 1raider1
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To: ferrgus
And two anonymous "accusers" from whom we don't have any specific accusations.

Actually, one of those "anonymous accusers" appears to be Bialek, so scratch one more "accuser" off the list.

20 posted on 11/10/2011 11:17:26 AM PST by kevkrom (This space for rent.)
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To: ferrgus

“One accuser whose biggest complaint was that Herman compared her height to that of his wife (and who tried to extract another settlement at the next job she went to after her settlement with the NRA)”

Isn’t she the one who is saying that several things actually happened, but she won’t say what those are? It is Cain who says he recalls making a hand motion toward his chin/neck when speaking to her. I don’t recall her ever mentioning that, but I may be wrong.


21 posted on 11/10/2011 11:17:35 AM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: SMARTY

Yeah, apparently the Washington Times headline got used instead of what I put in the title field. It was supposed to say something like “Herman Cain Has No 5th Accuser”


22 posted on 11/10/2011 11:17:46 AM PST by ferrgus
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To: ferrgus

“...I saw behavior, the one day that I met him … that was consistent with the pattern of his behavior described by his four actual accusers.”

“I can’t put a finger on it,...”

Absolute garbage...


23 posted on 11/10/2011 11:17:50 AM PST by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo...Sum Pro Vita. (Modified Decartes))
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To: fullchroma
Particularly Southern men flirt, though in tasteful ways.

Though I haven't thought about it in many years, I was raised in an environment wherein it was good manners to behave flirtatiously with women in social settings. If you didn't flatter them artfully and show attention in social situations, you were considered ill-mannered and boorish.

Cain strikes me as a gentleman cut from that general cloth.

24 posted on 11/10/2011 11:18:52 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Politics ain't beanbag!)
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To: org.whodat
had been married five times ... was really good at judging people.

LOL! I think not!!
25 posted on 11/10/2011 11:19:07 AM PST by presently no screen name
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To: ferrgus

“I can’t put a finger on it, but as most women will tell you, you kind of have a sense when men are on the up and up and when there are men who may not be. I had that feeling and so did my colleague, and that’s why she jumped in and said, ‘Oh, let’s all go to dinner.’ “

WHAT SHE DIDN’T SAY: “We’re a bit racist, and we assumed if a black man invited a white woman to dinner it meant he wanted to get into her pants, so we interfered with his ‘invite’ and went to dinner with him. You see, most of the corporate heads and politicians we deal with are real perverts, and everyone knows black men are the worst.
We were then ‘shocked’,,,, ‘shocked’ I tell you, when he stuck us with the wine bill! Which, of course, went on the company tab, but you know...”


26 posted on 11/10/2011 11:19:28 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: ferrgus
“I can’t put a finger on it, but as most women will tell you, you kind of have a sense when men are on the up and up and when there are men who may not be. I had that feeling and so did my colleague, and that’s why she jumped in and said, ‘Oh, let’s all go to dinner.’ “

My experience is that while women feel their senses are 100% correct, they aren't.

27 posted on 11/10/2011 11:19:37 AM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: ferrgus
Does the official media “accuser tally” include the secretary of the Iowa radio host whom Cain referred to as “Darling” while she was preparing tea for him? If so, then we are only left with one anonymous accuser.
28 posted on 11/10/2011 11:20:18 AM PST by 07Jack
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To: cuban leaf
“I didn’t ask for 15 minutes of fame. I certainly didn’t want 15 minutes of fame like this...”

"I was thinking more like a one hour mini-drama, and lot's of money."

29 posted on 11/10/2011 11:21:09 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: 1raider1
there was no difference between an accusation from the recipient of harassment and one from a person who was offended because he had overheard the harassment even though the intended hearer was not offended. That is, being offended was the important point

I'm offended that we have an America hating Marxist as President. Does this mean I can put a lien on the White House until reparations are made?

30 posted on 11/10/2011 11:21:59 AM PST by Cowman (How can the IRS seize property without a warrant if the 4th amendment still stands?)
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To: old curmudgeon
Isn’t this the woman who had to pay for her own dinner including an expensive bottle of wine?

No. This was the woman who was the GUEST CLIENT and had a HOST SPEAKER whom she had dinner with, and then (as normally done) was expected to pay the liquor tab with the company EXPENSE ACCOUNT.

31 posted on 11/10/2011 11:24:10 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: cuban leaf

“—Isn’t this the woman who had to pay for her own dinner including an expensive bottle of wine?—

Not exactly. We only know that Cain did not pay for it. We don’t know who did. But considering the event, it is naturally assumed that some company’s expense account covered it. It’s how it works.”

Or maybe Mr. Cain, who was famous for bringing the budget in line, was a little PO’d when the ladies obviously abused the company expense account by ordering $400 bottles of wine. So maybe, just maybe, he left.

All I can say is that her story disproves itself. A man who hopes to “get lucky” wouldn’t leave a table of women before they were done with the meal. It sounds to me he was more upset with the expense account abuse than interested in the women. LOL. No wonder she can’t forgive him!


32 posted on 11/10/2011 11:24:35 AM PST by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: ferrgus
“I can’t put a finger on it, but as most women will tell you, you kind of have a sense when men are on the up and up and when there are men who may not be. I had that feeling and so did my colleague...

Really? A feeling about men? Or, is she reallllly a racialphobe? Usually the media would imply she's phobic of black men just like they paint all conservatives are as homophobes. (tongue-in-cheek)

33 posted on 11/10/2011 11:25:32 AM PST by TennesseeGirl
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To: fullchroma
Some men flirt. Sometimes we like it and sometimes we don’t. Grow up, little girls.

In my experience, the normal course of conduct of southern gentlemen would be called sexist, or harrassment by a significant number of northern females.

34 posted on 11/10/2011 11:27:13 AM PST by Prokopton
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To: keats5

“Whoa boy! They’re scared now. Cain’s got a real lawyer and there could actually be real consequences for this crap.”


Bingo! Game, set, match, Mr. Cain.


35 posted on 11/10/2011 11:27:51 AM PST by nesnah
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To: ferrgus

Oh brother. This is getting really ridiculous.


36 posted on 11/10/2011 11:28:56 AM PST by VeniVidiVici ("Si, se gimme!")
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To: Cowman

“...And just why it seems that the Dems are blocking for Romney. “

Every media Democrat was hailing Romney as the winner of the faux-debate last night. They are certainly eager to have Obama run against him. Then they can blast him as a Wall St. fat cat who shipped U.S. jobs out of the country before selling Bain for over a billion dollars. By the time the msm finishes with Willard, his wife won’t vote for him.

How fatally stupid it would be of the GOP to let the media choose its nominee yet again.


37 posted on 11/10/2011 11:31:49 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: SumProVita

Well, she must be a Perry supporter.

He can’t put his finger on anything either.


38 posted on 11/10/2011 11:32:03 AM PST by donhunt (Certified and proud "Son of a Bitch".)
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To: All

So, this woman said that Cain gave her a vibe that made her feel uncomfortable. This is what the media calls an accusation.. and they covered up for a serial womanizer, Edwards and turned a blind eye to a man that was actually raping and abusing women, Clinton, they worshiped someone that killed a girl, Kennedy and forgave Dodd for fondling girls and lionize child rapists like Studds and a guy that ran a gay hooker rings out his own basement.

This might finally be the death knell of journalism in the US.


39 posted on 11/10/2011 11:35:08 AM PST by newnhdad
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To: ferrgus
“I want to make it very clear that Herman Cain never sexually harassed me,..."

Your picture makes it even more clear...


40 posted on 11/10/2011 11:38:02 AM PST by avacado
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To: newnhdad

So she’s taking heat and now wants to get out of the kitchen. Well too bad. I say if lawsuits are on the horizon it will do this woman good to sweat a little..next time maybe it won’t be so much fun to pile on to a guy that’s be unfairly treated.

What goes around comes around..right?


41 posted on 11/10/2011 11:38:31 AM PST by stillafreemind
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To: UCANSEE2

“I had that feeling and so did my colleague, and that’s why she jumped in and said, ‘Oh, let’s all go to dinner.’ “

Oh really? You BOTH had “that feeling” that he was out to get a woman but went to dinner with him anyway. That is odd of you!

- Also, I just did a quick Google search on this woman’s name, and just about every story on the first page (didn’t go past the first page) is shouting out headlines like: “Cain’s 5 Accuser Speaks Out” — WHAT BUNK!!


42 posted on 11/10/2011 11:38:35 AM PST by Yooper4Life (They all lie.)
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To: nesnah

Well, they’re walking back the rent-a-mob accusers. Now can they expose the smear campaign so that everyone in America sees it for what it is. Can they restore his reputation to match his integrity?


43 posted on 11/10/2011 11:38:58 AM PST by keats5 (Not all of us are hypnotized.)
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To: CainConservative
lol

they are scared witless now that Cain has the best slander lawyer in the country defending him!

lol

44 posted on 11/10/2011 11:41:04 AM PST by TexasFreeper2009 (Cain 2012!)
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To: ferrgus

...”that was consistent with the pattern of his behavior described by his four actual accusers.”

And exactly WHAT “PATTERN OF BEHAVIOR” was “DESCRIBED BY HIS FOUR ACTUAL ACCUSERS.”????????????

Asking one woman to business dinner to better answer her questions is somehow an evil “pattern of behavior??????

AND WHO ARE THESE “FOUR ACTUAL ACCUSERS”???????

Boy this whole thing is so freakin’ obvious, hateful and despicable it just irks me to no end!


45 posted on 11/10/2011 11:42:34 AM PST by Yooper4Life (They all lie.)
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To: cuban leaf
Do we even know any of that info to be fact?

We have a story about $400 bottles of wine and Cain leaving before the bill was paid. Do we have proof that this occurred, or is this another bit of here-say?

In other words, why are we believing the $400/bottle wine story, and the story of him not paying the bill, but we don't believe the harassment allegations?

Maybe none of it is true. Maybe all of it is true. So far, isn't every bit of it here-say?

46 posted on 11/10/2011 11:43:20 AM PST by BagCamAddict (If Perry had been asked about the Cain 999 plan, he would have said: 9, 9, .......what?)
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To: ferrgus

My sister met - in person - Bill Clinton and Al Gore and they were both leering at her and she has a photo to prove it. Too bad she wasn’t a money grubbing fame whore - she could have claimed being “uncomfortable” and at least bought a new car with the “go away” money.


47 posted on 11/10/2011 11:44:45 AM PST by Aria ( "If we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under.")
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To: ferrgus

Donna Donella?

Riiiiight!

And I suppose her boyfriend is Ron Mexico?


48 posted on 11/10/2011 11:44:50 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: 07Jack

I’ve seen no official tally. In fact, they general say “anonymous”.

Fact is, IMO, they are just throwing numbers out there to keep with B.S. “number 5” meme in order to keep in the Sheeple’s heads. What utter crap.


49 posted on 11/10/2011 11:45:05 AM PST by Yooper4Life (They all lie.)
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To: RoosterRedux
Particularly Southern men flirt, though in tasteful ways... I was raised in an environment wherein it was good manners to behave flirtatiously with women in social settings. If you didn't flatter them artfully and show attention in social situations, you were considered ill-mannered and boorish.

Yeah, sure. We all know that in conservative Southern culture it's OK for married men to hit on women. That's a slur on Southern men.

Some men flirt. Sometimes we like it and sometimes we don’t. Grow up,

My guess is that most women don't like it when married men hit on them. But maybe that's just me...

And this is a forum for conservatives? Who's standing up for "family values" on all these Cain threads?

I have no idea if Cain is guilty of any of these accusations. I sincerely hope he isn't because I like a lot of what he stands for. But I find this "Cain can do no wrong because he's conservative" attitude to be a betrayal of our fundamental values.

We were outraged when Clinton was accused of sexual indiscretions, and rightly complained when the media turned a blind eye. And now some of us are content to "turn a blind eye" to potential sexual indiscretions - after all, this time it's "our guy."

Like I said, I sincerely hope all of these allegations are proven false. But if any of them do turn out to be substantiated, we need to be willing to face up to it. That doesn't mean I wouldn't vote for the man over Obama, but I have to say it would likely mean that I would choose to support a conservative who lived his or her values in the GOP primaries.

Flame away.

50 posted on 11/10/2011 11:51:46 AM PST by tjd1454
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