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Pope’s Top Cardinal Forbids Justice & Peace From Issuing Documents Without Permission
American Papist ^ | 11/10/11 | Thomas Peters

Posted on 11/10/2011 12:03:07 PM PST by Publius804

Very notable news, via Vatican expert Sandro Magister, following the aftermath of the Justice & Peace’s ill-advised white paper (emphasis mine)

Precisely when the G20 summit in Cannes was coming to its weak and uncertain conclusion, on that same Friday, November 4 at the Vatican, a smaller summit convened in the secretariat of state was doing damage control on the latest of many moments of confusion in the Roman curia.

In the hot seat was the document on the global financial crisis released ten days earlier by the pontifical council for justice and peace. A document that had disturbed many, inside and outside of the Vatican.

The secretary of state, Cardinal Tarcisio Bertone, complained that he had not known about it until the last moment. And precisely for this reason he had called that meeting in the secretariat of state.

The conclusion of the summit was that this binding order would be transmitted to all of the offices of the curia: from that point on, nothing in writing would be released unless it had been inspected and authorized by the secretariat of state.

Well, we told you so. Liberal Catholics were quick to try to claim this document somehow represented the authoritative teaching of the Church (and Pope Benedict himself), and attempted to criticize orthodox Catholics who accurately presented the document as enjoying little authority as somehow being “cafeteria catholics.”

Well, the ball is back in their court now, and I (and others) haven’t changed our position.

(Excerpt) Read more at catholicvote.org ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: catholic; currency; debtcrisis; economy

1 posted on 11/10/2011 12:03:12 PM PST by Publius804
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To: Salvation

Ping!!


2 posted on 11/10/2011 12:04:38 PM PST by Publius804 (Buckle up - with Obama at the controls it's gonna be a bumpy ride. God help us.)
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To: Publius804

The damage was done. Pitifully, the cat can’t be put back in the bag.


3 posted on 11/10/2011 12:09:14 PM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: Publius804

Somebody spoke out of turn, and got their hand slapped.


4 posted on 11/10/2011 12:10:21 PM PST by Campion ("It is in the religion of ignorance that tyranny begins." -- Franklin)
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To: Publius804

Shhhhhhhhhhhh, they don’t want to hear the truth. They want to believe the MSM when it suits them and deny it when it doesn’t.


5 posted on 11/10/2011 12:10:44 PM PST by tiki
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To: Publius804

Well that’s good news! These councils were set upup after Vatican II and were never supposed to supplant the actual curia, but over the years they became increasingly independent and self-important.

They should have been slapped back years ago.


6 posted on 11/10/2011 12:17:56 PM PST by livius
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To: Campion

Interesting.


7 posted on 11/10/2011 12:32:22 PM PST by PetroniusMaximus
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To: netmilsmom

WRONG -He just put it back in the bag. I knew the document was bad and the Vatican took action.


8 posted on 11/10/2011 12:41:58 PM PST by impimp
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Patiently waiting for the cornucopia of simpletons here who bought this nonsense hook line and sinker to now admit that they are ignorant fools blinded by their anti-Catholic bigotry.


9 posted on 11/10/2011 1:00:40 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham (Barry Soetoro is a Kenyan communist)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Looks like unsubstantiated blogpimp claims to me...


10 posted on 11/10/2011 1:14:39 PM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: livius

I didn’t know that about the councils; maybe that explains this statement-”on the latest of many moments of confusion in the Roman curia”.

Its rather odd to me that they’d be experiencing these so-called “moments of confusion”. Most of us old-timers knew this was a screw up but it sure doesn’t help matters.


11 posted on 11/10/2011 1:17:40 PM PST by Rich21IE
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To: Publius804
Progressives pulled this same trick in the immediate aftermath of Vatican II; be the first to issue statements, even if they are in direct contradiction to the facts, to the press and to the faithful and let the truth play "catch-up".

Indeed, the damage is done.

12 posted on 11/10/2011 1:22:41 PM PST by Oratam
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To: Rich21IE

Sadly, it seems to me that while they had no respect for the Pope under Paul VI, it wasn’t much better with JPII. He started off strong but after the assassination attempt, he backed off on things like exerting authority and reordering some of the areas that sure needed it. It’s probably not easy, to say the least, and some of JPII’s own appointments didn’t help him much. So there’s a backlog of rottenness there.

I think BXVI had planned to do more, but it is clearly a mammoth task because the Vatican bureaucracy is so huge and so entrenched. He has been changing some of the office holders, but slowly, and perhaps he will soon reach “critical mass” and, prompted by things like this, make more radical changes.


13 posted on 11/10/2011 1:35:51 PM PST by livius
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To: Publius804

It’s a bit like Obama’s Christmas Tree Tax flub.

The Vatican and the US Federal Government have the same problem. The right hand does not know what the 4,632 left hands are doing most of the time.


14 posted on 11/10/2011 2:21:56 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: impimp

>>WRONG -He just put it back in the bag. I knew the document was bad and the Vatican took action.<<

Sure as my fingers touch these keys, the Vatican will be ignored by the MSM and the Anti-Catholic FReepers alike.

This group should have been reigned in long ago. The cat is out and most of those who use things against us will spin it their own way.


15 posted on 11/10/2011 2:41:56 PM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice)
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To: Publius804

Good move. Maybe they can fix what is broken now.


16 posted on 11/10/2011 9:47:49 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: livius

Sounds like you’ve done a good bit of study on Vatican politics. All I can say is, I’m sure glad I’m not Pope or otherwise caught up in that political viper pit. What a freakin’ mess.

It won’t happen in my lifetime, but it would be refreshing to see the changes wrought by the Second Coming; I gotta believe Jesus would have a far less bureaucratic administration.


17 posted on 11/11/2011 7:47:54 AM PST by Rich21IE
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